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Banzaiiiii
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Budget (including currency):like 2-3kcad

Country: Canada

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: I'm planning on using the build exclusively for calculated simulations of poker hands in a software called Simple Postflop, I might switch to GTO+ or Piosolver Edge though, they all do the same thing more or less. Basically I'm going to have it running these calculations 24/7 whenever I'm not analyzing the data myself. I'm not really planning on playing games so gpu is really just for display.

Other details Some of these calculations will require over 32gb of ram so 64gb of ram is mandatory. CPU more or less just makes calculations faster, and I can make use TR just cant justify the price. This is what I go so far  Is this a good choice of everything? I'm planning on overclocking the CPU and RAM and want it to be sustainable to put it under a heavy workload for a long periods. I'm planning on getting a used radeon 570 just for display purposes. Thanks :)

 

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I am surprised that you would need anything that beefy for poker Sims.

 

My day job involves dealing with hydraulic simulation of rivers and traffic simulation. Traffic simulation is (very basically) a massive Monte Carlo with bell curve dictated random variables on top of route selection probabilities and the hydraulic systems require some back calculation and huge multiple runs.

 

These run fine on a 6 core/32gb ram system. Albeit with run times in hours. 

 

Poker probabilities are by comparison very limited (unless I am missing something) so 64gb of ram is a little surprising. While the probabilities are huge, they are finite and would rapidly decrease as a hand progresses.

 

(Unless of course you are looking to 'game' multiple online poker systems at once - the morality and legality of which I will leave to you) 

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PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 9 3950X 3.5 GHz 16-Core Processor $1028.50 @ Vuugo
CPU Cooler be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM CPU Cooler $129.99 @ Mike's Computer Shop
Motherboard MSI MAG B550 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard $234.50 @ Vuugo
Memory G.Skill Trident Z Neo 64 GB (4 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory $475.99 @ Newegg Canada
Storage TCSunBow X3 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive $125.99 @ Newegg Canada Marketplace
Case Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case $119.50 @ Vuugo
Power Supply Corsair RM (2019) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply $149.99 @ Amazon Canada
Case Fan be quiet! 87 CFM 120 mm Fan $14.99 @ Canada Computers
Case Fan be quiet! 87 CFM 120 mm Fan $14.99 @ Canada Computers
Case Fan be quiet! 87 CFM 120 mm Fan $14.99 @ Canada Computers
Monitor Samsung LU32J590UQNXZA 32.0" 3840x2160 60 Hz Monitor $347.99 @ Amazon Canada
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total $2657.42
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-08-18 13:22 EDT-0400  

Personally, I think this b550 will do you fine, it’ll overclock well too. I also added some faster ram, from cl17 to 16, also cheaper ssd with dram cache

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Yes the software is multi threaded and supports up to 64 cores. It doesn't have limits on memory utilization.

 

I'm familiar with the software I use it on my ryzen 5 2400g 16gb build, calculations can literally take over a week if depending on how many I'm doing. My friends who play higher than me have TR and 128gb in their builds and find use of it with this software. I'm not gaming the system these simulations are only going to accessed when I'm not playing for study purposes.

 

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 9 3950X 3.5 GHz 16-Core Processor $1028.50 @ Vuugo
CPU Cooler Noctua NH-D15 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler $109.95 @ Amazon Canada
Motherboard MSI MEG X570 UNIFY ATX AM4 Motherboard $404.80 @ Vuugo
Memory G.Skill Ripjaws V 64 GB (4 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory $397.99 @ Newegg Canada
Storage Crucial MX500 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive $134.99 @ Amazon Canada
Case Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case $119.50 @ Vuugo
Power Supply Corsair RM (2019) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply $149.99 @ Amazon Canada
Case Fan be quiet! 87 CFM 120 mm Fan $14.99 @ Canada Computers
Case Fan be quiet! 87 CFM 120 mm Fan $14.99 @ Canada Computers
Case Fan be quiet! 87 CFM 120 mm Fan $14.99 @ Canada Computers
Monitor Samsung LU32J590UQNXZA 32.0" 3840x2160 60 Hz Monitor $347.99 @ Amazon Canada
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total $2738.68
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-08-18 13:23 EDT-0400  

I switched the ram to lower latency but does everything look good? also is it a good idea to overclock this build if I'm running it for long periods?

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12 minutes ago, Banzaiiiii said:

Yes the software is multi threaded and supports up to 64 cores. It doesn't have limits on memory utilization.

 

I'm familiar with the software I use it on my ryzen 5 2400g 16gb build, calculations can literally take over a week if depending on how many I'm doing. My friends who play higher than me have TR and 128gb in their builds and find use of it with this software. I'm not gaming the system these simulations are only going to accessed when I'm not playing for study purposes.

 

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 9 3950X 3.5 GHz 16-Core Processor $1028.50 @ Vuugo
CPU Cooler Noctua NH-D15 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler $109.95 @ Amazon Canada
Motherboard MSI MEG X570 UNIFY ATX AM4 Motherboard $404.80 @ Vuugo
Memory G.Skill Ripjaws V 64 GB (4 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory $397.99 @ Newegg Canada
Storage Crucial MX500 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive $134.99 @ Amazon Canada
Case Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case $119.50 @ Vuugo
Power Supply Corsair RM (2019) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply $149.99 @ Amazon Canada
Case Fan be quiet! 87 CFM 120 mm Fan $14.99 @ Canada Computers
Case Fan be quiet! 87 CFM 120 mm Fan $14.99 @ Canada Computers
Case Fan be quiet! 87 CFM 120 mm Fan $14.99 @ Canada Computers
Monitor Samsung LU32J590UQNXZA 32.0" 3840x2160 60 Hz Monitor $347.99 @ Amazon Canada
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total $2738.68
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-08-18 13:23 EDT-0400  

I switched the ram to lower latency but does everything look good? also is it a good idea to overclock this build if I'm running it for long periods?

Yeah overclock but get a cheaper board to save money, many boards don’t need to be that expensive to overclock

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PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
Motherboard Gigabyte X570 GAMING X ATX AM4 Motherboard $219.99 @ Memory Express
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total $219.99
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-08-18 13:41 EDT-0400  

 

Another alternative other than the b550 board I mentioned

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4 hours ago, YT_DomDaBomb20 said:
PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
Motherboard Gigabyte X570 GAMING X ATX AM4 Motherboard $219.99 @ Memory Express
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total $219.99
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-08-18 13:41 EDT-0400  

 

Another alternative other than the b550 board I mentioned

 

That motherboard has marginal VRM for a 3950X.

 

I wouldn't bother overclocking if the plan is to run the system constantly at load. The performance gain is not likely worth the potential instability and wear.

 

Ripjaws V modules are not a good choice when populating all four memory slots using an NH-D15 cpu cooler. The outer fan overhangs the memory area with 32mm clearance in its standard mounting position. IIRC Ripjaws V are 44mms tall.

 

Consider using 2x32GB memory. This will leave two memory slots available should 128GB prove necessary.

 

Consider a faster storage unit around the same cost.

 

The RM650X is, IMO, a better psu.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 3950X 3.5 GHz 16-Core Processor  ($1028.50 @ Vuugo) 
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler  ($109.95 @ Amazon Canada) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte X570 AORUS ELITE WIFI ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($264.99 @ Memory Express) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($349.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Storage: Crucial P1 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($139.50 @ Vuugo) 
Case: Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case  ($119.50 @ Vuugo) 
Power Supply: Corsair RMx (2018) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($159.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Case Fan: be quiet!  87 CFM 120 mm Fan  ($14.99 @ Canada Computers) 
Case Fan: be quiet!  87 CFM 120 mm Fan  ($14.99 @ Canada Computers) 
Case Fan: be quiet!  87 CFM 120 mm Fan  ($14.99 @ Canada Computers) 
Monitor: Samsung LU32J590UQNXZA 32.0" 3840x2160 60 Hz Monitor  ($347.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Total: $2565.38
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-08-18 18:47 EDT-0400

80+ ratings certify electrical efficiency. Not quality.

 

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