new build for dad

[Avocheeseado]

Budget (including currency): £650-700 (including monitor)

Country: UK

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Microsoft Flight sim 2020, web browsing, word processing, storing family photos.

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 60hz 1080p 24 inches. Upgrading from a dell all in one which has an i5 6400, 8gb ram. Already has keyboard and mouse

I am planning to build a pc for my dad as he has an all-in-one right now which isnt great. He wants to be able to play the new microsoft flight simulator at 60fps. This will also be used for word processing, web browsing etc. He also wants to be able to put the monitor on top of the pc to save space so I thought an htpc case would be good. let me know what you think of this build.

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 3 3100 3.6 GHz Quad-Core Processor	£91.98 @ Aria PC
Motherboard	ASRock B450M PRO4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard	£73.97 @ CCL Computers
Memory	Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory	£64.38 @ Aria PC
Storage	Kingston A2000 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	£100.97 @ Laptops Direct
Video Card	Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1650 4 GB OC Low Profile Video Card	£138.38 @ Amazon UK
Case	Silverstone ML03B HTPC Case	£72.59 @ Overclockers.co.uk
Power Supply	Cooler Master MWE Bronze V2 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply	£58.82 @ Novatech
Case Fan	ARCTIC Arctic F8 PWM 31 CFM 80 mm Fan	£7.73 @ Overclockers.co.uk
Case Fan	ARCTIC Arctic F8 PWM 31 CFM 80 mm Fan	£7.73 @ Overclockers.co.uk
Monitor	AOC E2470SWH 23.6" 1920x1080 60 Hz Monitor	£89.99 @ CCL Computers
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	£706.54
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-08-05 18:53 BST+0100

Would prefer to chose a 6 core processor but they are all quite expensive at the moment. A shame that a 1650 is the best gpu that will fit in here.

[jaslion]

What I would very much so recommend is that one you get a normal sized desktop as that form factor is going to up the cost and limit upgrades and going with a normal micro atx cheap case like a q300l would allow for a better gpu which would be very welcome (if you don't mind going used a vega 56 or gtx 1070would easily fit in that budget and that is a lot better a card).

 

Also does he need a new pc right now? If not then do wait a bit as both amd and nvidia are launching new gpu's very very soon and amd is coming out with ryzen 4000 in fall.

[SFFDesigns]

1 hour ago, Avocheeseado said:

new microsoft flight simulator at 60fps

I can 100% tell you this won’t happen!

 

Never shoot for 60fps in flight sims. 24-30 FPS is plenty good. If you’re ok with 24-30 at 1080p, this should be good enough. See if you can fit a 1650 Super or better there though.

 

if you want 60, you’ll probably need a 2070S or better

[Avocheeseado]

43 minutes ago, Hymenopus_Coronatus said:

I can 100% tell you this won’t happen!

 

Never shoot for 60fps in flight sims. 24-30 FPS is plenty good. If you’re ok with 24-30 at 1080p, this should be good enough. See if you can fit a 1650 Super or better there though.

 

if you want 60, you’ll probably need a 2070S or better

Even at pretty low settings?

[SFFDesigns]

18 minutes ago, Avocheeseado said:

Even at pretty low settings?

Yeah it’s pretty doubtful. Minimum settings maybe, but barely.

 

dont worry tho, as someone who uses X-Plane at 24fps it isn’t bad!

[Avocheeseado]

15 hours ago, jaslion said:

What I would very much so recommend is that one you get a normal sized desktop as that form factor is going to up the cost and limit upgrades and going with a normal micro atx cheap case like a q300l would allow for a better gpu which would be very welcome (if you don't mind going used a vega 56 or gtx 1070would easily fit in that budget and that is a lot better a card).

 

Also does he need a new pc right now? If not then do wait a bit as both amd and nvidia are launching new gpu's very very soon and amd is coming out with ryzen 4000 in fall.

Yeah i will ask him if hes ok going with a bigger case. And i will wait until ryzen 4000 and possibly ampere and big navi if they are releasing any cheapish cards

[jaslion]

1 hour ago, Avocheeseado said:

Yeah i will ask him if hes ok going with a bigger case. And i will wait until ryzen 4000 and possibly ampere and big navi if they are releasing any cheapish cards

You don't need a bigger case. A q300l l is a bit wider but otherwise pretty much same size.

[Avocheeseado]

3 hours ago, jaslion said:

You don't need a bigger case. A q300l l is a bit wider but otherwise pretty much same size.

Yeah. Originally that was the case I was going to go with as he liked it but then he had the idea of putting it under the monitor. I think i will chose that though, much better airflow, upgradability and easier to install

[jaslion]

18 hours ago, Avocheeseado said:

Yeah. Originally that was the case I was going to go with as he liked it but then he had the idea of putting it under the monitor. I think i will chose that though, much better airflow, upgradability and easier to install

You can also put that case under the monitor. It has rubber screws that act like feet Just put a bit of fabric on the sidepanel where the monitor is going to be and make sure it doesn't weigh too much.