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alexdpars
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Hi,

I bought that samsung 970 pro 512GB 1 1/2 year ago and I did put it in my laptop. I didn't get the expected performance out of it... Arround 2600 2700 MBPS Read in AS SSD and 2200 MBPS in write speed. I thought at the time that my laptop had some kind of limitation even if it was a High End laptop M.2 NVME drives were pretty new when I bought the laptop in 2015-2016. Lately I treated myself to a new tower PC with a 570x-I strix and a Ryzen 9 3900x and I still get the same results. I did try to install Samsung NVME drivers but no results... I thought that maybe it was thermal throttling Samsung magician was showing me 56-60C. So I did put a thermal pad on it so it can touch the back of the motherboard to cool itself and it did lower the temps significantly to 26C but still the same results. Have you an Idea of what to try to resolve this and have the full performance out of my 970 pro. I'm out of ideas.

 

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Main System: Ryzen 9 3900X, ASUS ROG Strix X570-I Gaming AM4, G.SKILL Trident Z RGB 32GB CL16, GTX 1070 Zotac, Lian Li TU-150, 1X Samsung 970 Pro 512GB NVME SSD and 1X WD Blue SN550 NVME SSD, Fractal Design Ion SFX 650G 80 PLUS Gold Certified 650W Full Modular SFX-L Power

Server: 2X Xeon X5670 @2.93 GHZ, Asus Z8NA-D6, PIKE RAID Card DDR3 1333mhz 48GB of ram, 1X 1TB crucial sata SSD, 1X4TB HDD 1X3TB HDD

Laptop: Alienware 17 R3 6700HQ, 32GB RAM DDR4 2400MHZ, PM951 NVME SSD, GTX 970M

Peripherals: G910 Logitech Keyboard,Logitech G935 Headset, Logitech G502 lightspeed mouse, DELL 32 inch S3220GGF 165hz freesync

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How are you testing it? Atto ? CDM ? 

   
 
 
 
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AS SSD is my benchmark software

Main System: Ryzen 9 3900X, ASUS ROG Strix X570-I Gaming AM4, G.SKILL Trident Z RGB 32GB CL16, GTX 1070 Zotac, Lian Li TU-150, 1X Samsung 970 Pro 512GB NVME SSD and 1X WD Blue SN550 NVME SSD, Fractal Design Ion SFX 650G 80 PLUS Gold Certified 650W Full Modular SFX-L Power

Server: 2X Xeon X5670 @2.93 GHZ, Asus Z8NA-D6, PIKE RAID Card DDR3 1333mhz 48GB of ram, 1X 1TB crucial sata SSD, 1X4TB HDD 1X3TB HDD

Laptop: Alienware 17 R3 6700HQ, 32GB RAM DDR4 2400MHZ, PM951 NVME SSD, GTX 970M

Peripherals: G910 Logitech Keyboard,Logitech G935 Headset, Logitech G502 lightspeed mouse, DELL 32 inch S3220GGF 165hz freesync

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I tried CDM it showed me better results... why ?

Main System: Ryzen 9 3900X, ASUS ROG Strix X570-I Gaming AM4, G.SKILL Trident Z RGB 32GB CL16, GTX 1070 Zotac, Lian Li TU-150, 1X Samsung 970 Pro 512GB NVME SSD and 1X WD Blue SN550 NVME SSD, Fractal Design Ion SFX 650G 80 PLUS Gold Certified 650W Full Modular SFX-L Power

Server: 2X Xeon X5670 @2.93 GHZ, Asus Z8NA-D6, PIKE RAID Card DDR3 1333mhz 48GB of ram, 1X 1TB crucial sata SSD, 1X4TB HDD 1X3TB HDD

Laptop: Alienware 17 R3 6700HQ, 32GB RAM DDR4 2400MHZ, PM951 NVME SSD, GTX 970M

Peripherals: G910 Logitech Keyboard,Logitech G935 Headset, Logitech G502 lightspeed mouse, DELL 32 inch S3220GGF 165hz freesync

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5 minutes ago, Tan3l6 said:

Used TRIM?

I did didnt change much. May be a bios option ?

Main System: Ryzen 9 3900X, ASUS ROG Strix X570-I Gaming AM4, G.SKILL Trident Z RGB 32GB CL16, GTX 1070 Zotac, Lian Li TU-150, 1X Samsung 970 Pro 512GB NVME SSD and 1X WD Blue SN550 NVME SSD, Fractal Design Ion SFX 650G 80 PLUS Gold Certified 650W Full Modular SFX-L Power

Server: 2X Xeon X5670 @2.93 GHZ, Asus Z8NA-D6, PIKE RAID Card DDR3 1333mhz 48GB of ram, 1X 1TB crucial sata SSD, 1X4TB HDD 1X3TB HDD

Laptop: Alienware 17 R3 6700HQ, 32GB RAM DDR4 2400MHZ, PM951 NVME SSD, GTX 970M

Peripherals: G910 Logitech Keyboard,Logitech G935 Headset, Logitech G502 lightspeed mouse, DELL 32 inch S3220GGF 165hz freesync

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3 minutes ago, alexdpars said:

I did didnt change much. May be a bios option ?

In windows just right click on drive in my computer -> properties -> tools -> optimize -> select the drive and optimize

... should do the trick at least for some performance gain...

 

Though you migh already have the "scheduled optimization" on, so it might not matter much...

Pax vobiscum

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2 hours ago, alexdpars said:

I tried CDM it showed me better results... why ?

Different queue depths and threading. The rated speeds for a drive are under ideal conditions - for example, a 128KB sequential read at QD1 (what AS SSD tests) might be <2500 MB/s while at QD8 (CDM) would be up to 3500. For writes, this could be 2000 to 2700 respectively.

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6 hours ago, NewMaxx said:

Different queue depths and threading. The rated speeds for a drive are under ideal conditions - for example, a 128KB sequential read at QD1 (what AS SSD tests) might be <2500 MB/s while at QD8 (CDM) would be up to 3500. For writes, this could be 2000 to 2700 respectively.

That make sense

Main System: Ryzen 9 3900X, ASUS ROG Strix X570-I Gaming AM4, G.SKILL Trident Z RGB 32GB CL16, GTX 1070 Zotac, Lian Li TU-150, 1X Samsung 970 Pro 512GB NVME SSD and 1X WD Blue SN550 NVME SSD, Fractal Design Ion SFX 650G 80 PLUS Gold Certified 650W Full Modular SFX-L Power

Server: 2X Xeon X5670 @2.93 GHZ, Asus Z8NA-D6, PIKE RAID Card DDR3 1333mhz 48GB of ram, 1X 1TB crucial sata SSD, 1X4TB HDD 1X3TB HDD

Laptop: Alienware 17 R3 6700HQ, 32GB RAM DDR4 2400MHZ, PM951 NVME SSD, GTX 970M

Peripherals: G910 Logitech Keyboard,Logitech G935 Headset, Logitech G502 lightspeed mouse, DELL 32 inch S3220GGF 165hz freesync

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