choosing between laptops for programming

[shadowss]

https://www.elgiganten.dk/product/gaming/gaming-laptop/50825/hp-pavilion-gaming-15-dk0918no-15-6-barbar-gaming-computer
https://www.komplett.dk/product/1158508/gaming/gaming-pc/baerbar/lenovo-legion-5-156-fhd-144-hz
https://www.elgiganten.dk/product/gaming/gaming-laptop/152210/msi-gf65-thin-15-6-barbar-gaming-computer
https://www.power.dk/pc-og-tilbehoer/computere/baerbar-pc/lenovo-legion-5-15imh05h-156-i7-baerbar-computer/p-1071780/?gclid=CjwKCAjwmf_4BRABEiwAGhDfSWimNRnY8DhqxYpT4NXwwuBeU1mA8cLBDxxyj-Xzo2XqezYaE7c_choCbOIQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds



the price of them is in danish kr 
but in usd first it would be about 1100 and second would be about 1417 usd which would you say is most worth it and if you have any others you could recomend i wouldent mind i have about 1500 usd but would like to get the most out of the money i have and would also like to ask if anybody have experience with programming how much you use the numpad to it cause if its not used a lot the 3rd might be viable too which is about 1418 
if you have any recomendation then the laptop need to be able to be gotten in denmark i will offcause try to see if i can find it here too if you send one for the lovest price possible 
 

[kelvinhall05]

Do you need the power of a gaming laptop?

[shadowss]

i need a good processor and a good graphic card and about 16gb ram

 i plan to be able to program games with it

 

[5x5]

The Legion 5 is good and has excellent cooling.

 

The other two have massive issues and are overall junk. Avoid them

 

Also consider the HP Omen 15

[5x5]

Also, I'd you need CPU performance, the 4800H is your only option. Those i7 10750H models are slower than the Ryzen 5 4600H

[shadowss]

ok thx for advice 5x5 i will look at the hp omen 15 too then

 

[shadowss]

and could you say @5x5 which hp omen 15 ? 

so i know what im looking for ? cause i found this when i searched https://www.power.dk/pc-og-tilbehoer/computere/baerbar-pc/hp-omen-15-ax201no-156-laptop/p-523184/

 

 

[shadowss]

what would you all say is more worth it between these 2 ? 
https://www.komplett.dk/product/1158508/gaming/gaming-pc/baerbar/lenovo-legion-5-156-fhd-144-hz#
https://www.power.dk/pc-og-tilbehoer/computere/baerbar-pc/lenovo-legion-5-15imh05h-156-i7-baerbar-computer/p-1071780/?gclid=CjwKCAjwmf_4BRABEiwAGhDfSWimNRnY8DhqxYpT4NXwwuBeU1mA8cLBDxxyj-Xzo2XqezYaE7c_choCbOIQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

 

[shadowss]

are you sure the i7 10750h is worse than the ryzen 5 4600h ? cause after what i can find its not much worse than the ryzen 7 4800h and by not much i meen so little it wouldent really be noticable 

[5x5]

Just now, shadowss said:

are you sure the i7 10750h is worse than the ryzen 5 4600h ? cause after what i can find its not much worse than the ryzen 7 4800h and by not much i meen so little it wouldent really be noticable 

The 10750H can't hold turbo and it's only 6 cores Vs 8 much more efficient cores on the 4800H.

 

The 4600H is also a six core and actually holds slightly higher clocks than the 10750H. You're likely conflicting it with the 10850H but that's a lot more expensive and still slower than the 4800H

20 minutes ago, shadowss said:

and could you say @5x5 which hp omen 15 ? 

so i know what im looking for ? cause i found this when i searched https://www.power.dk/pc-og-tilbehoer/computere/baerbar-pc/hp-omen-15-ax201no-156-laptop/p-523184/

 

 

This is ancient. Avoid it.

[5x5]

16 minutes ago, shadowss said:

what would you all say is more worth it between these 2 ? 
https://www.komplett.dk/product/1158508/gaming/gaming-pc/baerbar/lenovo-legion-5-156-fhd-144-hz#
https://www.power.dk/pc-og-tilbehoer/computere/baerbar-pc/lenovo-legion-5-15imh05h-156-i7-baerbar-computer/p-1071780/?gclid=CjwKCAjwmf_4BRABEiwAGhDfSWimNRnY8DhqxYpT4NXwwuBeU1mA8cLBDxxyj-Xzo2XqezYaE7c_choCbOIQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

 

I'd you need a powerful CPU, the AMD one. I'd you need a more powerful GPU, the Intel one.

[shadowss]

i know i was saying what i found by searching omen 15 there is a lot of omen 15's and nope im not conflicting the 10750h with the 10850h i have looked at a couple of comparisons now of the 10750h vs the 4800h and what i can see both in games and in over all its not really that much worse in games it even sometimes have higher fps than the 4800h 

[shadowss]

and i cant really find anything anywhere saying the 4800h is much better than the 10750h 

 

[5x5]

Just now, shadowss said:

i know i was saying what i found by searching omen 15 there is a lot of omen 15's and nope im not conflicting the 10750h with the 10850h i have looked at a couple of comparisons now of the 10750h vs the 4800h and what i can see both in games and in over all its not really that much worse in games it even sometimes have higher fps than the 4800h 

What are you using to co.pare? If it's CPU Boss or Userbenchmark then I'd say disregard those. They are fraudulent sites with bullshit on them and are banned on multiple forums due to it.

 

Check hardware unboxed. They do the most detailed laptop testing.

Just now, shadowss said:

and i cant really find anything anywhere saying the 4800h is much better than the 10750h 

 

Look at legitimate reviewers such as hardware unboxed.

[shadowss]

i have looked at about 6 different websites and also about 7 videos for them so would like to see what you are using to check it cause i cant find any place saying the 10750h is worse than the ryzen 5 4600h

 

[shadowss]

and for which one is best im asking which one you get more vallue out of for you're money 

[5x5]

15 minutes ago, shadowss said:

and for which one is best im asking which one you get more vallue out of for you're money 

Depends on what you need. CPU performance is much better on the 4800H as it's easily in the same tier as a 3700X desktop.

 

The GPU in the i7 model is better though so I'd the goal is gaming that one will faster, albeit hotter.

[shadowss]

the goal as said is programming so i kinda need both so as im asking which one would you said is more bang for the buck 

[5x5]

7 minutes ago, shadowss said:

the goal as said is programming so i kinda need both so as im asking which one would you said is more bang for the buck 

I assume battery life is irrelevant? I'd get the 4800H - the 1650 Ti is capable and for coding, the raw CPU power of the 4800H is just hard to ignore, especially as it runs cooler and is cheaper. I mean, the 4800H is the same as the 4900H but with a 10W higher TDP so just watch below.
 

 

 

[shadowss]

ok thx 

[5x5]

1 minute ago, shadowss said:

ok thx 

As for the performance of all current mobile CPUs - this video is the most relevant. It shows the 4600H consistently beating the 10750H as I pointed out

 

[5x5]

2 minutes ago, shadowss said:

ok thx 

This is the relevant part for you

[shadowss]

https://www.power.dk/pc-og-tilbehoer/computere/baerbar-pc/lenovo-ideapad-gaming-3-15arh05-156-baerbar-pc/p-1098573/
do you know if this runs hot or there is anything bad about it compared to the lenovo legion 5 cause it have same specs but is about 300-400 dollars cheaper 

[5x5]

Just now, shadowss said:

https://www.power.dk/pc-og-tilbehoer/computere/baerbar-pc/lenovo-ideapad-gaming-3-15arh05-156-baerbar-pc/p-1098573/
do you know if this runs hot or there is anything bad about it compared to the lenovo legion 5 cause it have same specs but is about 300-400 dollars cheaper 

It has a horrible display and worse cooling. It's also a much weaker frame and a much smaller battery. Not worth it if you can afford the Legion 5

[shadowss]

ok thx for the input good to know just saw it and thought maybe it was something but if it has worse cooling and much smaller battery life then its not 

and i can afford the lenovo legion only though about it cause same specs but much cheaper