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7 hours ago, KENZY9 said:

1. so will my pc blow up? or do i need bigger psu

 

2. sure initially the 2600/3600 or im learning about this newer 3300x thing.

    AsRock B450 Pro4 / Steel Legend or AsRock B450M/AC .

    if you have advices

 

So here's some possibility when you have a weak wattage to crank up your system: (i sort it up from ok to worst)

1. If the PSU can handle it but always runs at its limit, they will overheat and deteriorates more quickly

2. Random freeze or crashing

3. Yes, your system gonna be wiped out, because PSU is like the heart of the system, and if it fails, it will damage the other components.

4. Worst case: Boom, fire :v 


Well, i suggest you to read this if you want to know more about PSU :

https://www.velocitymicro.com/blog/what-is-psu-efficiency-and-why-is-it-important/#:~:text=80 Plus is a certification,of 625W at 100% load.

 

Back to the topic, i think in short term it should be fine, but IMO i would go with the 750W. Surprisingly, some people said that they could run RTX2070Super on 450-500W idk how and idk about the full spec of their system. Some said 650W already enough even the company said so in the manual, but idk about OC. 750W is kinda safe line for me, thus you can do OC with no worries. Above 750W is kinda overkill. 

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For CPU, i could recommend you some chips, but depends on your needs. To make it easy, more cores usually could be helpful for workstation purposes (ex: rendering video, streaming). However, triple A games demands GPU performance more nowadays. If you read the spec of those chips you want to upgrade, both ryzen 5 2600 and 3600 have 6 cores. Meanwhile the ryzen 3 3300x and 3100 only have 4 cores. LTT also make some videos about those 4 products if u want to check. 

 

As a bottom line: 

Ryzen 5 3600 (6 cores)--> good for workstation and gaming, cost more, but many people go for this chips, because of the price to value ratio you got

Ryzen 3 3300x (4 cores, 1 CCX)--> recently released, budget, gaming focused chips

Ryzen 3 3100 (4 cores, 2 cores per CCX)--> recently released, budget opinion

Ryzen 5 2600 (6 cores)--> same purpose as 3600, older gen perform 20% less, cost less

 

If you have money, just go with ryzen 5 3600, as it is pretty balanced card. (AU$300)

Second, 3300x, nearly performing same in matter of gaming with ryzen 5 3600, less workstation performance (AU$220)

Third, you could try the ryzen 3 3100 (AU$165)

I'm not recommend the ryzen 5 2600 tho because the performance more or less the same with my third option but cost only 30 dollar less than the newer gen. Idk about the pricing in your country but in here, it is just not worth it to be acquired now.

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For the mobo, honestly i rarely see people talk about AsRock B450M/AC. From the research i did, that mobo have the similar specs with the B450M pro 4, just the AC have wireless connection. 

 

But if you compare the asrock B450 pro 4 with B450 steel legend, steel legend offers more good quality build and the difference is only 10 dollars in here, so i just go with the steel legend.

 

Again, depends on the budget, upgrade path, case dimension, etc.......

 

 

Cheers bro, sorry for the late reply and very long explanation. I hope that can help you and understandable, lol :v

 

 

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 2400G 3.6 GHz Quad-Core Processor
Motherboard: Gigabyte B450 AORUS M Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($154.00 @ Skycomp Technology)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 CL15 Memory  ($117.00 @ Skycomp Technology)
Storage: Samsung 860 Evo 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($108.00 @ Centre Com)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB XC GAMING Video Card  ($920.70 @ Newegg Australia)
Case: Cougar MX330-G ATX Mid Tower Case  ($75.90 @ Newegg Australia)
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS Plus Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($189.00 @ Umart)
Monitor: Asus VG278Q 27.0" 1920x1080 144 Hz Monitor  ($399.30 @ Newegg Australia)
Total: $1963.90
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-07-23 19:02 AEST+1000

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2 minutes ago, NZgamer said:

yep, will fit

 

But I wouldn't go with that CPU/GPU config

i will upgrading CPU along the way, and maybe to an ATX mobo too, and add fans.

 

1 minute ago, Ardianto Cahyo said:

Your case have a 350mm GPU clearance, while your card have 269.83 mm so yes, it would fit

so all have to check is Lengths match/within the max clearance?

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3 minutes ago, NZgamer said:

yep, will fit

 

But I wouldn't go with that CPU/GPU config

Yea, the CPU bottlenecks the GPU right :v

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15 minutes ago, KENZY9 said:

i will upgrading CPU along the way, and maybe to an ATX mobo too, and add fans.

 

so all have to check is Lengths match/within the max clearance?

Well good to know if you will upgrade the CPU. Yea i think so, physically it would fit. If you worry about the weight, it doesn't matter since you will screw it in the case and the case support the GPU mounting also.

 

The GPU min. wattage is 650, and yours is 650. Should be fine, it will turn on. 

Mobo? your b450m surely still can run that card, eventhough the GPU length will surpass your mobo :v, but you will upgrade it anyway.

 

Can I know the CPU and mobo you want to upgrade tho?

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16 minutes ago, Ardianto Cahyo said:

. If you worry about the weight, it doesn't matter since you will screw it in the case and the case support the GPU mounting also.

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16 minutes ago, Ardianto Cahyo said:

The GPU min. wattage is 650, and yours is 650. Should be fine, it will turn on. 

Mobo? your b450m surely still can run that card, eventhough the GPU length will surpass your mob

so will my pc blow up? or do i need bigger psu

3 hours ago, Ardianto Cahyo said:

Can I know the CPU and mobo you want to upgrade tho?

sure initially the 2600/3600 or im learning about this newer 3300x thing.

AsRock B450 Pro4 / Steel Legend or AsRock B450M/AC .

if you have advices

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7 hours ago, KENZY9 said:

1. so will my pc blow up? or do i need bigger psu

 

2. sure initially the 2600/3600 or im learning about this newer 3300x thing.

    AsRock B450 Pro4 / Steel Legend or AsRock B450M/AC .

    if you have advices

 

So here's some possibility when you have a weak wattage to crank up your system: (i sort it up from ok to worst)

1. If the PSU can handle it but always runs at its limit, they will overheat and deteriorates more quickly

2. Random freeze or crashing

3. Yes, your system gonna be wiped out, because PSU is like the heart of the system, and if it fails, it will damage the other components.

4. Worst case: Boom, fire :v 


Well, i suggest you to read this if you want to know more about PSU :

https://www.velocitymicro.com/blog/what-is-psu-efficiency-and-why-is-it-important/#:~:text=80 Plus is a certification,of 625W at 100% load.

 

Back to the topic, i think in short term it should be fine, but IMO i would go with the 750W. Surprisingly, some people said that they could run RTX2070Super on 450-500W idk how and idk about the full spec of their system. Some said 650W already enough even the company said so in the manual, but idk about OC. 750W is kinda safe line for me, thus you can do OC with no worries. Above 750W is kinda overkill. 

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

For CPU, i could recommend you some chips, but depends on your needs. To make it easy, more cores usually could be helpful for workstation purposes (ex: rendering video, streaming). However, triple A games demands GPU performance more nowadays. If you read the spec of those chips you want to upgrade, both ryzen 5 2600 and 3600 have 6 cores. Meanwhile the ryzen 3 3300x and 3100 only have 4 cores. LTT also make some videos about those 4 products if u want to check. 

 

As a bottom line: 

Ryzen 5 3600 (6 cores)--> good for workstation and gaming, cost more, but many people go for this chips, because of the price to value ratio you got

Ryzen 3 3300x (4 cores, 1 CCX)--> recently released, budget, gaming focused chips

Ryzen 3 3100 (4 cores, 2 cores per CCX)--> recently released, budget opinion

Ryzen 5 2600 (6 cores)--> same purpose as 3600, older gen perform 20% less, cost less

 

If you have money, just go with ryzen 5 3600, as it is pretty balanced card. (AU$300)

Second, 3300x, nearly performing same in matter of gaming with ryzen 5 3600, less workstation performance (AU$220)

Third, you could try the ryzen 3 3100 (AU$165)

I'm not recommend the ryzen 5 2600 tho because the performance more or less the same with my third option but cost only 30 dollar less than the newer gen. Idk about the pricing in your country but in here, it is just not worth it to be acquired now.

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For the mobo, honestly i rarely see people talk about AsRock B450M/AC. From the research i did, that mobo have the similar specs with the B450M pro 4, just the AC have wireless connection. 

 

But if you compare the asrock B450 pro 4 with B450 steel legend, steel legend offers more good quality build and the difference is only 10 dollars in here, so i just go with the steel legend.

 

Again, depends on the budget, upgrade path, case dimension, etc.......

 

 

Cheers bro, sorry for the late reply and very long explanation. I hope that can help you and understandable, lol :v

 

 

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Thank you hero you've helped me!

15 hours ago, Ardianto Cahyo said:

1. If the PSU can handle it but always runs at its limit, they will overheat and deteriorates more quickly

Can I see if it's at limit (or lower)?

15 hours ago, Ardianto Cahyo said:

 

As a bottom line: 

I would like to game/stream same time maybe (like PUBG) and make videos, so 3600 at least then?

price difference 2600 is AU$80 cheaper.

 

15 hours ago, Ardianto Cahyo said:

honestly i rarely see people talk about AsRock B450M/AC. From the research i did, that mobo have the similar specs with the B450M pro 4, just the AC have wireless connection. 

yeah i was considering a Mobo with inbuilt wifi, currently were use Cable from pc to phone as hotspot lolol

15 hours ago, Ardianto Cahyo said:

asrock B450 pro 4 with B450 steel legend, steel legend offers more good quality build and the difference is only 10 dollars in here, so i just go with the steel legend.

Online here Steel legend is AU16 dearer only. But strangely my local physical store sell both for same price

15 hours ago, Ardianto Cahyo said:

path, case dimension, etc.......

 

 

Cheers bro, sorry for the late reply and very long explanation. I hope that can help you and understandable, lol :v

Cheers mate Appreciate that you shared extra info

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On 7/24/2020 at 9:02 PM, KENZY9 said:

Thank you hero you've helped me!

Can I see if it's at limit (or lower)?

I would like to game/stream same time maybe (like PUBG) and make videos, so 3600 at least then?

price difference 2600 is AU$80 cheaper.

 

yeah i was considering a Mobo with inbuilt wifi, currently were use Cable from pc to phone as hotspot lolol

Online here Steel legend is AU16 dearer only. But strangely my local physical store sell both for same price

Cheers mate Appreciate that you shared extra info

 

Ey bro, sry i just opened the forum again today, yea for seeing the limit, i don't have any idea about that. But surely you could estimate your system wattage, and usually i use the pcpartpicker. There also some PSU calculator in the internet, like https://outervision.com/power-supply-calculator. Idk whether it's that accurate or not but again it's for estimating. For ex, my current overclocked CPU wattage:

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Well to be fair, theoretically and on paper yes, but idk about real-world performance. I just see the comparison from youtube when they use 3300x and 3600, there's no much difference between those 2 in gaming performance. But if you did some video rendering, yes there will be a noticeable difference. So far some sources recommended 3600 if you have the budget. 3300x is a cheaper option. In my opinion, you could decide either to go for 3300x or 3600. I again don't recommend the 2600 since the performance leap from 2000 series to 3000 series is pretty huge.

 

Lol, that need some work but you did it :v. For Mobo, well you could buy a network card for the wireless connection right? Since i'm not buying a mobo with built-in wifi, same with my other friends.

 

Oh and updates, some people said you could run the 2070Super just on 650W, like on the Nvidia manual said. There is a reason because the company does not know each of the people system specs, so they average and overestimate the wattage (dk how much) for safety reasons. The other people tho, who could run 2070Super in 450w and 550w PSU is because they really know their system specs and make some adjustment, but they said they can't do OC with those wattage.

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