Need a Cooler asap

[DecideLol]

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 7 3800X 3.9 GHz 8-Core Processor	$329.99 @ B&H
CPU Cooler	AMD Wraith Max 55.78 CFM CPU Cooler
Motherboard	Gigabyte B450M DS3H Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard	$72.99 @ Best Buy
Memory	Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory	$66.98 @ Amazon
Storage	Kingston A400 240 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive	$34.50 @ Amazon
Storage	Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	$53.99 @ Amazon
Video Card	Asus GeForce GTX 1070 8 GB Video Card	$799.00 @ Amazon
Case	Cooler Master MasterBox MB520 RGB ATX Mid Tower Case	$98.98 @ Newegg
Power Supply	EVGA BR 500 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply	$73.70 @ Amazon
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$1530.13

I live in Canada looking for a new cooler and is willing to spend about $200 
Also don't mind upgrading my Case

[Chris Pratt]

If you can fit it, you can't do better than a Noctua NH-D15. The Corsair Vengeance are relatively low profile, so it should clear them, but check the specs of your case, motherboard, and RAM to be sure. Noctua has an extensive database on their website. 

[Bombastinator]

? What is wrong with the cooler you have listed?  As long as you don’t overclock, which is something of a pointless excrecize with ryzen2 the included cooler should be fine.  Canada is not Egypt or India which are the places that stock AMD coolers often don’t cut it. Dh15 or macho RT are as big as air coolers get. Near 3 times the TDP of the stock cooler.  The macho RT could theoretically handl a 3800xt using no fan at all (though I personally doubt it.  Thing would be verrrrry warm I suspect) both of them are half your budget or less.

[DecideLol]

1 hour ago, Bombastinator said:

? What is wrong with the cooler you have listed?  As long as you don’t overclock, which is something of a pointless excrecize with ryzen2 the included cooler should be fine.  Canada is not Egypt or India which are the places that stock AMD coolers often don’t cut it. Dh15 or macho RT are as big as air coolers get. Near 3 times the TDP of the stock cooler.  The macho RT could theoretically handl a 3800xt using no fan at all (though I personally doubt it.  Thing would be verrrrry warm I suspect) both of them are half your budget or less.

well my temperature of my computer is at 82-93°C i need my computer to be more cooler and i probably should get a new mother board as well any recommendations 

[Bombastinator]

If cpu is idling at 82c that would be most often a bad cpu Mount. 92-93 sound like load temps not idle temps.

[bowrilla]

Since you posted this in the liquid cooling section: the biggest radiator you can fit and afford from a reputable brand. That being said: don't expect better or at least noticeably better performance from an AiO than from something like a Noctua NH-D15, be Quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 or Cryorig R1. 

 

Would leave you with more than reasonable budget for a set of good case fans - the best cooler won't do a good job without airflow in your case. More case fans = more fresh air intake + more hot air exhaust = lower case temps = better performance from your air cooler

 

Your case supports up to 280 or 360 radiators, so that's what you aim for (personally, I'd go with a 280 because less noise sources with about the same performance as a 360 but you need good fans). Something like a NZXT Kraken Z63/Z73 (w display) or X73/63 (w/o display) or maybe something from Alphacools Eisbaer or Eissturm series.

 

You won't get significantly better performance with an AiO. It just looks nice and is maybe (!) a bit quieter. You'll pay double the price though.

[DecideLol]

2 hours ago, bowrilla said:

Since you posted this in the liquid cooling section: the biggest radiator you can fit and afford from a reputable brand. That being said: don't expect better or at least noticeably better performance from an AiO than from something like a Noctua NH-D15, be Quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 or Cryorig R1. 

 

Would leave you with more than reasonable budget for a set of good case fans - the best cooler won't do a good job without airflow in your case. More case fans = more fresh air intake + more hot air exhaust = lower case temps = better performance from your air cooler

 

Your case supports up to 280 or 360 radiators, so that's what you aim for (personally, I'd go with a 280 because less noise sources with about the same performance as a 360 but you need good fans). Something like a NZXT Kraken Z63/Z73 (w display) or X73/63 (w/o display) or maybe something from Alphacools Eisbaer or Eissturm series.

 

You won't get significantly better performance with an AiO. It just looks nice and is maybe (!) a bit quieter. You'll pay double the price though.

What is a good case I should get then cause idon't mind spending  little more 

[bowrilla]

3 minutes ago, DecideLol said:

What is a good case I should get then cause idon't mind spending  little more 

I never said the case was bad or needed replacement. It's a decent budget case with adequate vents. I said you might want to consider adding case fans (especially since you did not mention your case fan setup). There are tons to choose from depending size and looks. Personally I like Be Quiet! Silent Wings 3 and Noctua NF-P12/14 redux or NF-S12. There are more good fans available.

 

I'd say: if you can mount additional case fans, add additional case fans. Have it about balanced (intake vs exhaust), have some direction for your airflow (so don't mix intake and exhaust on one side). You might need fan splitters. Go for PWM low rev fans. You don't want to run them at 2000 RPM if you care at all about any form of quietness.

[Bombastinator]

15 minutes ago, bowrilla said:

I never said the case was bad or needed replacement. It's a decent budget case with adequate vents. I said you might want to consider adding case fans (especially since you did not mention your case fan setup). There are tons to choose from depending size and looks. Personally I like Be Quiet! Silent Wings 3 and Noctua NF-P12/14 redux or NF-S12. There are more good fans available.

 

I'd say: if you can mount additional case fans, add additional case fans. Have it about balanced (intake vs exhaust), have some direction for your airflow (so don't mix intake and exhaust on one side). You might need fan splitters. Go for PWM low rev fans. You don't want to run them at 2000 RPM if you care at all about any form of quietness.

I would add I recently ran into an arctic cooling case fan that looked decent.  Called an F4 maybe? Not sure how it compares to those previously mentioned.  It was cheap though.  Something like $5. Notable was that it had a decent bearing so it should last a while.  I was surprised to see an FDB bearing on a fan that cheap.  The thing about fan blades is their shape is math and that math was worked out during ww2.  There is also fan blade material which can be used to make more aggressive or silent blades.  I don’t know the material used.  Strength, weight, and stiffness are important.  Iirc carbon fiber made much more powerful fans possible.  There was a major change in blade design on propeller driven military aircraft in the 90’s.  Expensive stuff though. 

[bowrilla]

45 minutes ago, Bombastinator said:

 The thing about fan blades is their shape is math and that math was worked out during ww2.  There is also fan blade material which can be used to make more aggressive or silent blades.  I don’t know the material used.  Strength, weight, and stiffness are important.  Iirc carbon fiber made much more powerful fans possible.  There was a major change in blade design on propeller driven military aircraft in the 90’s.  Expensive stuff though. 

The point here is: return of investment. The fans are not really limited by the material they use - you'd needed to go a lot faster to reach the levels at which the plastic fins wouldn't do the trick (dangerously fast speed that is - put a finger in a 2000rpm fan with plastic fan blades and it will probably cut you and hurt you but you won't loose a finger, put a finger in a 2000+ rpm fan with blades made out of composite materials and you will probably loose your finger). The next are production tolerances - that's one point of static fans being more expensive (presumably) as they have to close the gaps as much as possible. If you want more static pressure or just pure air volume being moved, you add more resistance (after all, you have to move a specific amount of air which has a mass) you have to increase motor power - which is limited by the fan headers. There's no point having 1 really powerful fan that could fry the fan header because of its current draw.

 

Not sure how much the latest improvements in rotor aerodynamics might improve pc fans. I'd expect flow improvements and lower noise levels, maybe a bit more pressure (so overall some measurable improvements) but nothing revolutionary.

[Bombastinator]

55 minutes ago, bowrilla said:

The point here is: return of investment. The fans are not really limited by the material they use - you'd needed to go a lot faster to reach the levels at which the plastic fins wouldn't do the trick (dangerously fast speed that is - put a finger in a 2000rpm fan with plastic fan blades and it will probably cut you and hurt you but you won't loose a finger, put a finger in a 2000+ rpm fan with blades made out of composite materials and you will probably loose your finger). The next are production tolerances - that's one point of static fans being more expensive (presumably) as they have to close the gaps as much as possible. If you want more static pressure or just pure air volume being moved, you add more resistance (after all, you have to move a specific amount of air which has a mass) you have to increase motor power - which is limited by the fan headers. There's no point having 1 really powerful fan that could fry the fan header because of its current draw.

 

Not sure how much the latest improvements in rotor aerodynamics might improve pc fans. I'd expect flow improvements and lower noise levels, maybe a bit more pressure (so overall some measurable improvements) but nothing revolutionary.

Plastic is not one thing though. Different kinds have different abilities.  One way to make plastic tougher is to embed fiberglass in it. More resistant to vibration so you can use a more aggressive fan and still have it be quieter. Iirc some Noctua fans do that.

 

as far as propeller design goes though aside from helicopters it apexes at the end of world war 2.  Kinda makes sense because a propeller with a few percentage points more performance was literally life and death.  Best minds most money.  The quantum computing of its time perhaps.  The result is the stuff is pretty much worked out though and has been for a long time.  Then jets came out and changed everything.  The researchers started making house fans.  There are some really impressively quiet house fans from the 50’s.  They have metal blades and poor safety stuff of course so none of them are made any more.  Too many chopped up pets and kiddie fingers.  Math stays the same though.