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The issue;

I recently (1,5 months ago) built a new pc. I'll list the specs below.

Currently facing a very annoying issue. After the first month of using my pc, I noticed frames started dropping. Quite alot even. For example; in Black Desert Online, I went from 180 to 110 fps, same settings, same scene, etc.

What makes it even more odd is that on every graphic settings (in many different games aswell), I get the same FPS. Also, when I play Monster Hunter World, I seem to crash alot. This also started occuring at the same time as the FPS issue

 

What i've done to try and fix it;

At first I thought it was a driver issue. I've reinstalled drivers multiple times, also used drivers which people have reported to function properly. No positive result.

After that, I thought it was my GPU temps. They were hitting max temp real quick. I sent my GPU back for RMA and got a new one, with way lower temps. Once again, issue not solved.

Then I started thinking, and realized it might've been a CPU bottleneck, which I'd find weird to happen after just a month. Been monitoring my hardware usages, but none of my components even come close to hitting 100%.

 

After that I thought to myself, this all started happening after I installed new components. Those being; NZXT Hue2 RGB Kit, Arctic Freezer 34 Esports Duo CPU Cooler, an extension cable for my GPU and 2 NZXT Aer RGB fans.

I thought, maybe it's an issue with the system drawing too much power? So I disconnected some stuff (the newly added fans and RGB kit) from the PSU. No positive result either.

I also checked power settings in Windows and Nvidia control panel, and all are set to max performance.

 

Could it possibly be the CPU cooler or 8-pin PCIE extension cable? If not, what else could it be?

(Note that temps are amazing, even under load.)

 

Specs;

CPU: Ryzen 5 3600x

CPU Cooler: Arctic Freezer 34 Esports Duo

GPU: MSI RTX 2060 Super Gaming X
RAM: 16GB Corsair Vengeance LPX - 3000MHZ CL15 (Overclocked to 3400MHZ)

MOBO: MSI B450 Tomahawk MAX

PSU: Corsair CX550M

Drives: WD Green m.2 SSD 240GB,   Gigabyte 2.5" SSD 480GB

Case fans: 2x Be Quiet! Pure Wings 120mm(intake), 2x NZXT Aer RGB 2 120mm (exhaust)

Case: Phanteks P350X

 

 

 

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13 minutes ago, Rainee said:

I went from 180 to 110 fps, same settings

Did you uninstall the old drivers?

Gaming With a 4:3 CRT

System specs below

 

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5700X with a Noctua NH-U9S cooler 
Motherboard: Gigabyte B450 Aorus M (Because it was cheap)
RAM: 32GB (4 x 8GB) Corsair Vengance LPX 3200Mhz CL16
GPU: EVGA GTX 980 Ti SC Blower Card
HDD: 7200RPM TOSHIBA DT01ACA100 1TB, External HDD: 5400RPM 2TB WD My Passport
SSD: 1tb Samsung 970 evo m.2 nvme
PSU: Corsair CX650M
Displays: ViewSonic VA2012WB LCD 1680x1050p @ 75Hz
Gateway VX920 CRT: 1600x1200@75Hz, 1200x900@100Hz, 960x720@125Hz, 800x600@140Hz
Gateway VX900 CRT: 1600x1200@75Hz, 1200x900@100Hz, 960x720@120Hz (Can be pushed to 175Hz)
 
Keyboard: Thermaltake eSPORTS MEKA PRO with Cherry MX Red switches
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1 minute ago, MadAnt250 said:

Did you uninstall the old drivers and install new drivers? Or do a clean reinstall of the same drivers?

Hi! I uninstalled the old drivers using DDU. Also did a clean install of Windows, so drivers were installed clean.

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16 minutes ago, Rainee said:

Also, when I play Monster Hunter World, I seem to crash alot.

Have you tried reinstalling the game on the drive.

Gaming With a 4:3 CRT

System specs below

 

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5700X with a Noctua NH-U9S cooler 
Motherboard: Gigabyte B450 Aorus M (Because it was cheap)
RAM: 32GB (4 x 8GB) Corsair Vengance LPX 3200Mhz CL16
GPU: EVGA GTX 980 Ti SC Blower Card
HDD: 7200RPM TOSHIBA DT01ACA100 1TB, External HDD: 5400RPM 2TB WD My Passport
SSD: 1tb Samsung 970 evo m.2 nvme
PSU: Corsair CX650M
Displays: ViewSonic VA2012WB LCD 1680x1050p @ 75Hz
Gateway VX920 CRT: 1600x1200@75Hz, 1200x900@100Hz, 960x720@125Hz, 800x600@140Hz
Gateway VX900 CRT: 1600x1200@75Hz, 1200x900@100Hz, 960x720@120Hz (Can be pushed to 175Hz)
 
Keyboard: Thermaltake eSPORTS MEKA PRO with Cherry MX Red switches
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1 minute ago, MadAnt250 said:

Have you tried reinstalling the game on the drive.

Yes, I have. I've tried it on both my SSD's and on both of them it seems to be crashing. It says "err12: graphics device crashed", so I feel like both that, and the FPS issue are related.

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7 minutes ago, Rainee said:

Yes, I have. I've tried it on both my SSD's and on both of them it seems to be crashing. It says "err12: graphics device crashed", so I feel like both that, and the FPS issue are related.

I found this: https://www.reddit.com/r/MonsterHunterWorld/comments/cw6y2x/mhw_err12_graphics_device_crashed/

 

Gaming With a 4:3 CRT

System specs below

 

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5700X with a Noctua NH-U9S cooler 
Motherboard: Gigabyte B450 Aorus M (Because it was cheap)
RAM: 32GB (4 x 8GB) Corsair Vengance LPX 3200Mhz CL16
GPU: EVGA GTX 980 Ti SC Blower Card
HDD: 7200RPM TOSHIBA DT01ACA100 1TB, External HDD: 5400RPM 2TB WD My Passport
SSD: 1tb Samsung 970 evo m.2 nvme
PSU: Corsair CX650M
Displays: ViewSonic VA2012WB LCD 1680x1050p @ 75Hz
Gateway VX920 CRT: 1600x1200@75Hz, 1200x900@100Hz, 960x720@125Hz, 800x600@140Hz
Gateway VX900 CRT: 1600x1200@75Hz, 1200x900@100Hz, 960x720@120Hz (Can be pushed to 175Hz)
 
Keyboard: Thermaltake eSPORTS MEKA PRO with Cherry MX Red switches
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5 minutes ago, Rainee said:

Found that aswell, tried all of it, no luck..

From what I have found, it seems like a known issue with that game.

Gaming With a 4:3 CRT

System specs below

 

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5700X with a Noctua NH-U9S cooler 
Motherboard: Gigabyte B450 Aorus M (Because it was cheap)
RAM: 32GB (4 x 8GB) Corsair Vengance LPX 3200Mhz CL16
GPU: EVGA GTX 980 Ti SC Blower Card
HDD: 7200RPM TOSHIBA DT01ACA100 1TB, External HDD: 5400RPM 2TB WD My Passport
SSD: 1tb Samsung 970 evo m.2 nvme
PSU: Corsair CX650M
Displays: ViewSonic VA2012WB LCD 1680x1050p @ 75Hz
Gateway VX920 CRT: 1600x1200@75Hz, 1200x900@100Hz, 960x720@125Hz, 800x600@140Hz
Gateway VX900 CRT: 1600x1200@75Hz, 1200x900@100Hz, 960x720@120Hz (Can be pushed to 175Hz)
 
Keyboard: Thermaltake eSPORTS MEKA PRO with Cherry MX Red switches
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24 minutes ago, Rainee said:

That does still leave me with the issue of my components being limited by something, but I don't know what.

Are any other games working fine, and what are the temps?

Gaming With a 4:3 CRT

System specs below

 

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5700X with a Noctua NH-U9S cooler 
Motherboard: Gigabyte B450 Aorus M (Because it was cheap)
RAM: 32GB (4 x 8GB) Corsair Vengance LPX 3200Mhz CL16
GPU: EVGA GTX 980 Ti SC Blower Card
HDD: 7200RPM TOSHIBA DT01ACA100 1TB, External HDD: 5400RPM 2TB WD My Passport
SSD: 1tb Samsung 970 evo m.2 nvme
PSU: Corsair CX650M
Displays: ViewSonic VA2012WB LCD 1680x1050p @ 75Hz
Gateway VX920 CRT: 1600x1200@75Hz, 1200x900@100Hz, 960x720@125Hz, 800x600@140Hz
Gateway VX900 CRT: 1600x1200@75Hz, 1200x900@100Hz, 960x720@120Hz (Can be pushed to 175Hz)
 
Keyboard: Thermaltake eSPORTS MEKA PRO with Cherry MX Red switches
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2 minutes ago, MadAnt250 said:

Are any other games working fine, and what are the temps?

Other games aren't crashing, but my FPS is the same across every graphic settings, which to me is an idication of some kind of bottleneck. My temps are both around 60c, GPU and CPU.

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1 minute ago, Rainee said:

Other games aren't crashing, but my FPS is the same across every graphic settings, which to me is an idication of some kind of bottleneck. My temps are both around 60c, GPU and CPU.

Is it like the frame rate is hitting a wall and will stay steady there?

Gaming With a 4:3 CRT

System specs below

 

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5700X with a Noctua NH-U9S cooler 
Motherboard: Gigabyte B450 Aorus M (Because it was cheap)
RAM: 32GB (4 x 8GB) Corsair Vengance LPX 3200Mhz CL16
GPU: EVGA GTX 980 Ti SC Blower Card
HDD: 7200RPM TOSHIBA DT01ACA100 1TB, External HDD: 5400RPM 2TB WD My Passport
SSD: 1tb Samsung 970 evo m.2 nvme
PSU: Corsair CX650M
Displays: ViewSonic VA2012WB LCD 1680x1050p @ 75Hz
Gateway VX920 CRT: 1600x1200@75Hz, 1200x900@100Hz, 960x720@125Hz, 800x600@140Hz
Gateway VX900 CRT: 1600x1200@75Hz, 1200x900@100Hz, 960x720@120Hz (Can be pushed to 175Hz)
 
Keyboard: Thermaltake eSPORTS MEKA PRO with Cherry MX Red switches
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Just now, Rainee said:

Not exactly that. It's not a FPS limit, it just fluctuates at way lower amounts than it should

Is your cpu usage higher than the gpu and what are they?

Gaming With a 4:3 CRT

System specs below

 

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5700X with a Noctua NH-U9S cooler 
Motherboard: Gigabyte B450 Aorus M (Because it was cheap)
RAM: 32GB (4 x 8GB) Corsair Vengance LPX 3200Mhz CL16
GPU: EVGA GTX 980 Ti SC Blower Card
HDD: 7200RPM TOSHIBA DT01ACA100 1TB, External HDD: 5400RPM 2TB WD My Passport
SSD: 1tb Samsung 970 evo m.2 nvme
PSU: Corsair CX650M
Displays: ViewSonic VA2012WB LCD 1680x1050p @ 75Hz
Gateway VX920 CRT: 1600x1200@75Hz, 1200x900@100Hz, 960x720@125Hz, 800x600@140Hz
Gateway VX900 CRT: 1600x1200@75Hz, 1200x900@100Hz, 960x720@120Hz (Can be pushed to 175Hz)
 
Keyboard: Thermaltake eSPORTS MEKA PRO with Cherry MX Red switches
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Just now, Rainee said:

GPU is around 70, CPU around 30

I don't know, from what see in videos the FPS you are getting in Black Desert is pretty good. What other games are you getting lower FPS in?

Gaming With a 4:3 CRT

System specs below

 

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5700X with a Noctua NH-U9S cooler 
Motherboard: Gigabyte B450 Aorus M (Because it was cheap)
RAM: 32GB (4 x 8GB) Corsair Vengance LPX 3200Mhz CL16
GPU: EVGA GTX 980 Ti SC Blower Card
HDD: 7200RPM TOSHIBA DT01ACA100 1TB, External HDD: 5400RPM 2TB WD My Passport
SSD: 1tb Samsung 970 evo m.2 nvme
PSU: Corsair CX650M
Displays: ViewSonic VA2012WB LCD 1680x1050p @ 75Hz
Gateway VX920 CRT: 1600x1200@75Hz, 1200x900@100Hz, 960x720@125Hz, 800x600@140Hz
Gateway VX900 CRT: 1600x1200@75Hz, 1200x900@100Hz, 960x720@120Hz (Can be pushed to 175Hz)
 
Keyboard: Thermaltake eSPORTS MEKA PRO with Cherry MX Red switches
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3 minutes ago, MadAnt250 said:

I don't know, from what see in videos the FPS you are getting in Black Desert is pretty good. What other games are you getting lower FPS in?

It is good, but nowhere near what my PC is capable of.

Other games i've tried;

Monster hunter world,

Call of duty Modern Warfare

NieR: Automata

GTA V

Code Vein

 

Note: they all have the issue of same FPS on all settings

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4 minutes ago, Rainee said:

Call of duty Modern Warfare

NieR: Automata

GTA V

Code Vein

In a benchmark what is your average FPS on low, med and high presets?

Gaming With a 4:3 CRT

System specs below

 

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5700X with a Noctua NH-U9S cooler 
Motherboard: Gigabyte B450 Aorus M (Because it was cheap)
RAM: 32GB (4 x 8GB) Corsair Vengance LPX 3200Mhz CL16
GPU: EVGA GTX 980 Ti SC Blower Card
HDD: 7200RPM TOSHIBA DT01ACA100 1TB, External HDD: 5400RPM 2TB WD My Passport
SSD: 1tb Samsung 970 evo m.2 nvme
PSU: Corsair CX650M
Displays: ViewSonic VA2012WB LCD 1680x1050p @ 75Hz
Gateway VX920 CRT: 1600x1200@75Hz, 1200x900@100Hz, 960x720@125Hz, 800x600@140Hz
Gateway VX900 CRT: 1600x1200@75Hz, 1200x900@100Hz, 960x720@120Hz (Can be pushed to 175Hz)
 
Keyboard: Thermaltake eSPORTS MEKA PRO with Cherry MX Red switches
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3 minutes ago, Rainee said:

What benchmark? 

Benchmark in the game.

Gaming With a 4:3 CRT

System specs below

 

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5700X with a Noctua NH-U9S cooler 
Motherboard: Gigabyte B450 Aorus M (Because it was cheap)
RAM: 32GB (4 x 8GB) Corsair Vengance LPX 3200Mhz CL16
GPU: EVGA GTX 980 Ti SC Blower Card
HDD: 7200RPM TOSHIBA DT01ACA100 1TB, External HDD: 5400RPM 2TB WD My Passport
SSD: 1tb Samsung 970 evo m.2 nvme
PSU: Corsair CX650M
Displays: ViewSonic VA2012WB LCD 1680x1050p @ 75Hz
Gateway VX920 CRT: 1600x1200@75Hz, 1200x900@100Hz, 960x720@125Hz, 800x600@140Hz
Gateway VX900 CRT: 1600x1200@75Hz, 1200x900@100Hz, 960x720@120Hz (Can be pushed to 175Hz)
 
Keyboard: Thermaltake eSPORTS MEKA PRO with Cherry MX Red switches
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  • 2 weeks later...

Bump, does anyone know a possible fix?
Everything i tried so far;
 

  • Clean install GPU Drivers
  • Update every driver (bios, chipset, etc.)
  • Use friend's components (RAM, PSU)
  • RMA old GPU and get new one
  • Fresh install Windows
  • Undid overclocks
  • Checked issue on both SSD's
  • Monitor temps, everything is fine
  • Benchmarks (3Dmark time spy & Cinebench R20). Scores were around the same as comparable systems.
  • Check component usage (usage on high settings: CPU around 30-40, GPU around 70).

Currently got a new issue where every game, not just monster hunter world, just crashes after a while of playing. (This only happens on high settings)

Please help, i have no idea what I can further do 

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  • 2 years later...

Not exactly sure if this will solve the issue or if your even having the issue anymore. But i have recently had some trouble with the AMD "cool n quiet" setting in the bios. Turning it on caused some weird performance issues. Turned it off, ran a benchmark that showed my performance was fixed. Then turned the setting back on and the issues went away strangely.

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