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I have watched videos and read some articles but the following still confuses me....

 

I am building a Ryzen 5 3600 cpu/5700 XT gpu/Sata HDD and 16GB of memory (2 8gb sticks).  I don't have an unlimited budget to build this computer so i was wondering how much of a performance hit I would be taking using a better latency 16-18-18-38 ram versus slower 3600 at 18-22-22-42.  I know I could throw some more money and get 3600 ram at 16-19-19-39.

 

I don't understand that those numbers mean (i.e. 16-18-18-38) in relation to true performance gains/losses.

 

Can you please provide your opinion on this 1000 US dollar PC gaming build?  Should I work on stretching the budget even further to get better 3600 MHZ ram at 16-19-19-39 or keep 3200 ram at 16-18-18-38. 

 

 

 

 

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Depends on the task, really memory sensitive ones can maybe drop like 1% performance, but most of the gains comes from higher frequency. That's why you shouldn't consider 3200MHz in most cases, apart from Crucial ones because Crucial is owned by Micron and Micron only has 1 die (Micron Rev.E) that can do over 2933MHz with the factory memory profile. Besides you're probably still getting the same die types on different 3600MHz kits (Hynix or Micron) so you could try tightening CL18 kits to CL16 with a bit more voltage. 

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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3 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

Depends on the task, really memory sensitive ones can maybe drop like 1% performance, but most of the gains comes from higher frequency. That's why you shouldn't consider 3200MHz in most cases, apart from Crucial ones because Crucial is owned by Micron and Micron only has 1 die (Micron Rev.E) that can do over 2933MHz with the factory memory profile. Besides you're probably still getting the same die types on different 3600MHz kits (Hynix or Micron) so you could try tightening CL18 kits to CL16 with a bit more voltage. 

Yeah, I have no desire or plans to mess with the Infinity Web ( I think that is what it is called ).   I have watched videos on how to do that stuff but I also realize that is too much for me to take on right now.   I just want a stable good performing system.

 

So does 16 based 3200 better than 18 based 3600?   (no infinity web changes)

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12 minutes ago, PyroTheWise said:

So does 16 based 3200 better than 18 based 3600?   (no infinity web changes)

no it's worse, Infinity Fabric is by default, set to half the memory data rate automatically up to 3600MHz.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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