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Please suggest any b450 motherboard (ATX) that are worth buying.Thanks

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1 minute ago, Ed96win said:

What form factor? If you case supports ATX I'd recommend ASUS ROG STRIX B450-F Gaming

Yea, looking for an ATX one. OK thanks

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If you plan on pairing it with anything above a Ryzen 3600, then I would advise against the B450-F from ASUS as its VRM cooling is very poor and could cause reliability issues in the future, as you can see here. Instead, I would suggest a B450 Tomahawk Max from MSI.

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On 12/1/2019 at 5:09 PM, Mateyyy said:

If you plan on pairing it with anything above a Ryzen 3600, then I would advise against the B450-F from ASUS as its VRM cooling is very poor and could cause reliability issues in the future, as you can see here. Instead, I would suggest a B450 Tomahawk Max from MSI.

How about a ryzen 5 2600?

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5 hours ago, Eunoia said:

How about a ryzen 5 2600?

It will handle a 2600 but personally, I really don't see any reason to go for the B450-F instead of the Tomahawk Max, unless you just really need two M.2 slots. I'm not trying to make you think that ASUS' boards are bad in general or anything but in this case, it's pretty much objectively a smarter choice to go with the Tomahawk, because while it might handle a 2600 now, if you decide to upgrade further down the line to an 8 core (3700X), 12 core (3900X) or whatever core count part when they become cheaper, problems will appear because of the poor VRM design of the ASUS board.

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On budget side ASRock B450 Pro4 is available too, both it and the MSI Tomahawk share about same quality of VRMs to handle 3900 and 3950x stock but its usually cheaper then the MSI offerings and more widely available, depends on region etc.  These will easily take to overclocking with 3600-3800x let alone 2600 or 2700x. For $120ish but still cheap the MSI Pro Carbon is good too and decent upgrade from what i've heard over either of these. 

If you are near a MicroCenter they sell the M-ATX for ASRock Pro4s for 80$ (50$ with discount, when you buy CPU there as well), plus all are Updated for Ryzen 3000, you should be able to find most online retailers selling any of these with update as well but look for it before buying if it concerns you, even if not going straight to Ryzen 3000 its nice to have. 

Heres short version of roundup Buildzoid did recently (timestamped at end, so you dont have to watch all 40 minutes), he skips some stuff but decent watch if looking for higher quality stuff rather then just pure budget. 
 

 

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Those seemed like the best buys for me after watching reviews on Youtube and some forums, Ill post an update as soon as they arrive ^^

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