prime x570-p phase

[Sploork00]

i dont understand how much phase this motherboard have its looks like 8+4.

from what i know there is no doubler.

some sites says its have only 4+2 phase

so how much phase this motherboard realy have?

[Jurrunio]

4+2. There's just twice the number of components per phase, i.e. they turn on and off together

[Sploork00]

1 hour ago, Jurrunio said:

4+2. There's just twice the number of components per phase, i.e. they turn on and off together

its work like a doubler?

i saw a video of hardware unboxed from the test he did its looks like this motherboard vrm better than 2×5/2×6 phase motherboards, why?

[Jurrunio]

8 minutes ago, Sploork00 said:

its work like a doubler?

i saw a video of hardware unboxed from the test he did its looks like this motherboard vrm better than 2×5/2×6 phase motherboards, why?

No, doublers fire the two phase worth of components connected to it alternatively.

 

Because they arent using the same components in their phases. Heatsinks are also different

[Sploork00]

6 hours ago, Jurrunio said:

No, doublers fire the two phase worth of components connected to it alternatively.

 

Because they arent using the same components in their phases. Heatsinks are also different

so what's better doublers or this?

[Jurrunio]

17 minutes ago, Sploork00 said:

so what's better doublers or this?

Depends on the total phase count. The less phase you have, the greater advantage doublers have. Note that for performance (contrary to efficiency), the disadvantages for going without doublers can be compensated for if not beat the doubling scheme with more capacitors and higher switching frequencies.

[Sploork00]

17 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

Depends on the total phase count. The less phase you have, the greater advantage doublers have. Note that for performance (contrary to efficiency), the disadvantages for going without doublers can be compensated for if not beat the doubling scheme with more capacitors and higher switching frequencies.

lets say 4 phase with doublers (2×4) VS 4 phase with twice the number of components per phase

[Sploork00]

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[Jurrunio]

5 minutes ago, Sploork00 said:

lets say 4 phase with doublers (2×4) VS 4 phase with twice the number of components per phase

then doublers are better. Not like there is one such board competing with the X570-P at its price range though

[Sploork00]

4 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

then doublers are better. Not like there is one such board competing with the X570-P at its price range though

okay thanks. so from what i understand the vrm depends on quality(?) of the components and not just the number of phases.?

[TheDankKoosh]

3 minutes ago, Sploork00 said:

okay thanks. so from what i understand the vrm depends on quality(?) of the components and not just the number of phases.?

The x570-p has infinitely better vrm components out of any of the low-end x570 boards period, it doesn't even need a heatsink for the cpus' that you'd actually put into the board 3600 - 3700x. Those 50A power stages are amazing for what they cost and are pretty efficient, so even if it's a 4 phase, as long as asus put some extra capacitors on the output, it should be equal, or even better in the overclocking department.

[Sploork00]

21 minutes ago, TheDankKoosh said:

The x570-p has infinitely better vrm components out of any of the low-end x570 boards period, it doesn't even need a heatsink for the cpus' that you'd actually put into the board 3600 - 3700x. Those 50A power stages are amazing for what they cost and are pretty efficient, so even if it's a 4 phase, as long as asus put some extra capacitors on the output, it should be equal, or even better in the overclocking department.

from what i see gaming x power stages

high side 46A, low side 69A and more phases. my question is whether it depends on the quality of the power stages or what?

[TheDankKoosh]

50 minutes ago, Sploork00 said:

from what i see gaming x power stages

high side 46A, low side 69A and more phases. my question is whether it depends on the quality of the power stages or what?

The gaming x does not use power stages, it uses discreet mosfets, which are almost always less efficient. Also idk where you're getting a 69A figure for the 4C10N but I can assure you that is incorrect.

[Sploork00]

5 minutes ago, TheDankKoosh said:

The gaming x does not use power stages, it uses discreet mosfets, which are almost always less efficient. Also idk where you're getting a 69A figure for the 4C10N but I can assure you that is incorrect.

oh realy i thought mosfet is power stage

guess i need to learn more about phase.

low side 4C06N 69A.

[Jurrunio]

7 hours ago, Sploork00 said:

okay thanks. so from what i understand the vrm depends on quality(?) of the components and not just the number of phases.?

Yes. No one else at $170 offers anything nearly as good as the Vishay SiC639 though

 

5 hours ago, Sploork00 said:

ow side 4C06N 69A.

69A is what it can handle in theory, in practice that will lead to super high heat outputs.