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How hard would it be to shrink full gpus to a chip (Pentium 2 size)?

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Which part of the Pentium 2? The whole package, or just the chip?

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Just now, BTGbullseye said:

Which part of the Pentium 2? The whole package, or just the chip?

The chip.

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Right now, impossible. The RAM and primary cores use too much space, and are already about as small as they can get.

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Just that mobile graphics cards are a lot smaller, how about that size & the same performance?

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Mobile cards use shared system RAM instead of dedicated... System RAM is always MUCH slower. You are never going to get a mobile GPU that meets or beats the best desktop GPUs, or even the same GPUs with dedicated RAM.

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18 minutes ago, BTGbullseye said:

Mobile cards use shared system RAM instead of dedicated... System RAM is always MUCH slower. You are never going to get a mobile GPU that meets or beats the best desktop GPUs, or even the same GPUs with dedicated RAM.

RAM being on the card adds that much space wow, hmmm. Any pics anywhere with all the chips & where they are?

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27 minutes ago, Edward78 said:

RAM being on the card adds that much space wow, hmmm. Any pics anywhere with all the chips & where they are?

Just look at any of the "washer mod" videos for the 5700 XT to see what GDDR6 chips look like. They surround on 3 sides the main core, and are plainly visible. (they're also bigger than the core)

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1 hour ago, Edward78 said:

Just that mobile graphics cards are a lot smaller, how about that size & the same performance?

You mean integrated graphic inside processor?

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9 hours ago, xAcid9 said:

You mean integrated graphic inside processor?

No, there are mobile graphics cards right, they are mini PCIe?

6:01, wow the GPU is big. Though what is on the other half? I mean why are some cards 13 deep?

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14 minutes ago, Edward78 said:

No, there are mobile graphics cards right, they are mini PCIe?

MXM GPU? 


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22 minutes ago, xAcid9 said:

MXM GPU? 


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So they lack the dadicated ram?

 

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That is a good vid, so GPU, Ram & Vol. Regulators.

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