Does ram affect GPU load

[Fr0sTy64]

Hello folks, i was wondering if the ram size/frequency could affect the GPU load, since in all games it my gpu load doesnt go over 70% and it averages about 50-40%, I wonder if it's worthwhile upgrading the ram to 3000/3200mhz 2x8, and was wondering if anyone had this issue and would have any recommendations or ideas.

 

Specs:

CPU: Ryzen 3 1300x

GPU: Nvidia MSI Ventus 1660 TI 6GB

RAM: Ballistix Crucial 8x1 GB 2400mhz 

SSD: kingston a400 480GB

[Dubba]

How's your CPU usage? Your CPU might be bottlenecking, but faster dual channel memory can help it's performance.

[Akira Shimazu]

Umm. i think CPu its problem. and u should run dual channel ram

single-channel cut your bandwidth by half and reduce your FPS by 30

[Fr0sTy64]

8 minutes ago, Dubba said:

How's your CPU usage? Your CPU might be bottlenecking, but faster dual channel memory can help it's performance.

My cpu usual at 100% but I figured ram might be crippling the cpu since it has to wait on slow memory

[Fr0sTy64]

12 minutes ago, Wolfycapt said:

Umm. i think CPu its problem. and u should run dual channel ram

single-channel cut your bandwidth by half and reduce your FPS by 30

Yeah I was thinking about getting 2x8 ram 3000-3200 mhz but Idk if it'll make much of a difference, the game I was playing was bf5 and it was running 50-40% gpu load

 

[Dubba]

1 minute ago, Fr0sTy64 said:

My cpu usual at 100% but I figured ram might be crippling the cpu since it has to wait on slow memory

Yeah, I'm guessing you're running at 1080p and 1660Ti is strong enough to not even wake up to full boost clocks in some games if you run them like capped at 60fps or so. Just as a side note
I have no experience how much the performance would increase with faster memory but from what I've read, faster ram in dual channel with some OC to CPU would give you noticeable increase.

[Akira Shimazu]

8 minutes ago, Fr0sTy64 said:

My cpu usual at 100% but I figured ram might be crippling the cpu since it has to wait on slow memory

CPU should be around 60-70%. that case of 100% it's bottlenecking your GPU

Just now, Fr0sTy64 said:

Yeah I was thinking about getting 2x8 ram 3000-3200 mhz but Idk if it'll make much of a difference, the game I was playing was bf5 and it was running 50-40% gpu load

 

it will make a difference a lot. your Ram if it's upgraded to Dual-Channel. itll probably go to 70% at least or 80. since there is still bottleneck on CPU

[Fr0sTy64]

5 minutes ago, Dubba said:

Yeah, I'm guessing you're running at 1080p and 1660Ti is strong enough to not even wake up to full boost clocks in some games if you run them like capped at 60fps or so. Just as a side note
I have no experience how much the performance would increase with faster memory but from what I've read, faster ram in dual channel with some OC to CPU would give you noticeable increase.

yeah but but im running it on 1366x768 on ultra at 50-70 fps and its basically the same on low settings

[Fr0sTy64]

4 minutes ago, Wolfycapt said:

CPU should be around 60-70%. that case of 100% it's bottlenecking your GPU

it will make a difference a lot. your Ram if it's upgraded to Dual-Channel. itll probably go to 70% at least or 80. since there is still bottleneck on CPU

yeah that would be just fine but you're saying the ram will have a noticeable difference?

[Akira Shimazu]

1 minute ago, Fr0sTy64 said:

yeah that would be just fine but you're saying the ram will have a noticeable difference?

From single to dual? yeah like 20-30FPS.

for speed? not much.

[Dubba]

3 minutes ago, Fr0sTy64 said:

yeah but but im running it on 1366x768 on ultra at 50-70 fps and its basically the same on low settings

I think your GPU is bored in that resolution. You'd need like 150fps to get it's attention and I don't think faster RAM would help that much

[Fr0sTy64]

1 minute ago, Wolfycapt said:

From single to dual? yeah like 20-30FPS.

for speed? not much.

yeah and i was planning on getting 16 either way, but it should take some load off the cpu right? 

[Akira Shimazu]

Just now, Fr0sTy64 said:

yeah and i was planning on getting 16 either way, but it should take some load off the cpu right? 

around 25-30%

[Fr0sTy64]

3 minutes ago, Dubba said:

I think your GPU is bored in that resolution. You'd need like 150fps to get it's attention and I don't think faster RAM would help that much

I tried to run it on 1080 and it was pretty much the same

[Fr0sTy64]

4 minutes ago, Wolfycapt said:

around 25-30%

yeah which should probably make the gpu work extra hard right and i might buy a psu just to make sure everything is alright

[191x7]

Wait, you're using the system with a 1366x768 screen and you're wondering about the bottleneck? That 4-core Ryzen would bottleneck the 1160Ti even on 1080p.

Upgrade the monitor and the CPU.

[Fr0sTy64]

yeah im on a tight budget and there is no doubt a bottleneck, but the thing i was wondering about how badly the ram affected that bottleneck since ryzens are ram hungry and need a high frequency 

[191x7]

15 minutes ago, Fr0sTy64 said:

yeah im on a tight budget and there is no doubt a bottleneck, but the thing i was wondering about how badly the ram affected that bottleneck since ryzens are ram hungry and need a high frequency 

Well, you should consider having RAM in dual channel, that would add a few % more performance. Wouldn't help with the bottleneck.

Faster RAM would also help a tiny bit, but you can achieve the same by manually adjusting RAM speed and timings (Memory Taiphoon and Ryzen Dram calculator would help).

A higher resolution monitor should be your top priority. And then the CPU and adding more RAM.

[Fr0sTy64]

3 minutes ago, 191x7 said:

Well, you should consider having RAM in dual channel, that would add a few % more performance. Wouldn't help with the bottleneck.

Faster RAM would also help a tiny bit, but you can achieve the same by manually adjusting RAM speed and timings (Memory Taiphoon and Ryzen Dram calculator would help).

A higher resolution monitor should be your top priority. And then the CPU and adding more RAM.

So wait, a monitor thats higher res would actually increae the fps?

 

[191x7]

29 minutes ago, Fr0sTy64 said:

So wait, a monitor thats higher res would actually increae the fps?

 

In the worst case it would stay the same. The 1660Ti was designed for 1080p and 1440p.

[Fr0sTy64]

1 minute ago, 191x7 said:

In the worst case it would stay the same. The 1660Ti was designed for 1080p and 1440p.

yeah but since im on a tight budget, do you think it is worthwhile returning the 1660 ti and getting rx 580 and 2x8 kit, and further down the line a newer monitor

 

[191x7]

4 minutes ago, Fr0sTy64 said:

yeah but since im on a tight budget, do you think it is worthwhile returning the 1660 ti and getting rx 580 and 2x8 kit, and further down the line a newer monitor

 

If you're not going to upgrade your CPU in the near future, you might be better off having an RX 570 8GB card (the best bang for the bucks when it comes to the lower-end gaming cards) if you really plan on returning the 1660ti.

 

That doesn't change the fact that you'd need to change the monitor FIRST.

 

If you're wondering on what performance you'd have on 1080p, you might try using Dynamic Super Resolution (DSR) to have the games run at 1080p and downscale to 1360x768.

https://www.geforce.com/hardware/technology/dsr/technology

That way you'd see the performance difference and the GPU utilization difference.

[MadmanRB]

I say yeah you need dual channel ram, if money is tight and you cant get a new CPU just yet at least getting dual channel will mitigate any slowness.

[Fr0sTy64]

13 hours ago, MadmanRB said:

I say yeah you need dual channel ram, if money is tight and you cant get a new CPU just yet at least getting dual channel will mitigate any slowness.

Yeah, i'm also upset the fact that after buying 1660 ti recently I'm not getting the performance I thought I'd get, but I'm planning on buying 2x8 3200 ddr4 ram, I hope that will make the CPU run at least a tiny bit faster so it can finally keep up with the GPU.