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Hi, I'm thinking of building a desktop. This desktop will be a multirole:

1. It will be use for video editing and compiling,

2. It will be use for gaming (Mostly older games such as StarCraft 2 and Crysis 3, but thinking of playing newer games as well in 1080p)

 

My graphic card of choice will be Vega II or Vega64.

 

So, Here are my question:

Firstly, the mobo. I need a mobo (preferably X570) that could do some light OC for ryzen processors (Probably Ryzen 7 3800X, for future upgrade)

Secondly, the RAM I target is 3600MHz HyperX Fury. Other good options?

Third: My budget is around USD 1500 to 1800 for the system, exclude other peripherals such as monitor

 

These are my target:

AMD Ryzen 3600

Need at least 4 SATA ports (for simple RAID 01 or 10)

Gigabit Ethernet will do, don't need WiFi.

Prefer to have 2 PCIe x16 (dual graphic cards capable) from the processor and PCIE x4 to install SAS controller (So I'm looking for a motherboard with at least 2x PCIe x16 and 1x PCIe x4 slots)

Power supply I'm targeting will be 750W, but thinking to go all the way to 1000W

Case will be ThermalTake Versa H26 or equivalent (as I need 2x 5.25 inch drive bays for my Blu-Ray Drive)

M.2 NVME or SATA, but need close to 1TB storage (Primary OS drive)

For now, 2x 2TB HDD (will buy another 2 later)

Vega 64 or Vega II graphic card x1 (will buy another 1 in near future if needed)

Microsoft Windows 10 Pro

 

Much appreciated for your inputs.

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1 minute ago, LukeSavenije said:

yeah... i could do that

 

but just a stupid question, why would you even need x570? do you really need pcie 4?

Well, for future proof. I'm going to use this system for more than 5 years.

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Just now, LukeSavenije said:

why would you even need x570? do you really need pcie 4?

me: *buys X570 that i have abseloutly no use for other than to say that i have bleeding edge hardware* 

 

Anyways.

 

All X570 motherboard will be able to lightly overclock Zen2 CPUs. ASUS ROG Strix X570-F Gaming should do the job.

 

As for RAM:

Any 3600Mhz kit with the capacity you desire will be fine. You can always tighten up the RAM timings to sqeeze a bit more performance out or buy a kit with tighter timings.

Please mention or quote me if you want a response. :) 

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Just now, Chiyawa said:

Well, for future proof. I'm going to use this system for more than 5 years.

i mean... currently a 2080 ti saturates the 3.0 8x/2.0 16x link, so it isn't needed...

 

1 minute ago, Uptivuptiz said:

ASUS ROG Strix X570-F Gaming should do the job. 

only problem is that it is one of the worst value boards in asus's lineup...

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Just now, LukeSavenije said:

only problem is that it is one of the worst value boards in asus's lineup...

Yeah, you're right. I'll look elsewhere.

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Yeah, you're right. I'll look elsewhere.

but i mean... even the lowest end can do a 3900x without problem (except asrock with the pro4 and phantom 4)

 

just to name an example: prime p, it has the vrm of the xi hero, at a pricepoint that it makes sense

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4 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:
6 minutes ago, Chiyawa said:

Well, for future proof. I'm going to use this system for more than 5 years.

i mean... currently a 2080 ti saturates the 3.0 8x/2.0 16x link, so it isn't needed... 

I also need some PCIe x4 to install SAS controller. Well, the controller says it can support PCIe Gen 3. X470 and the rest has Gen 2 on their chipset sides, but x570 would have Gen 3 or 4 if not mistaken.

 

7 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:
8 minutes ago, Uptivuptiz said:

ASUS ROG Strix X570-F Gaming should do the job. 

only problem is that it is one of the worst value boards in asus's lineup...

I agree. Asus tends to be a little more expensive.

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2 minutes ago, Chiyawa said:

I agree. Asus tends to be a little more expensive.

well, the tuf and prime p are well priced, the c8h isn't complainable and the ws ace has it's own class

 

suggestion:

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor $329.00 @ B&H
Motherboard Gigabyte X570 AORUS PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard  
Memory G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory $67.99 @ Newegg
Storage Intel 660p Series 1.02 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive $94.99 @ Amazon
Storage Seagate Constellation CS ISE 3 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $55.50 @ Amazon
Storage Seagate Constellation CS ISE 3 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $55.50 @ Amazon
Video Card ASRock Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB Video Card $384.99 @ B&H
Case Fractal Design Focus G ATX Mid Tower Case $46.99 @ Walmart
Power Supply BitFenix Formula Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply $75.99 @ SuperBiiz
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total $1110.95
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-08-06 07:01 EDT-0400  

 

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2 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

well, the tuf and prime p are well priced, the c8h isn't complainable and the ws ace has it's own class

 

suggestion:

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor $329.00 @ B&H
Motherboard Gigabyte X570 AORUS PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard  
Memory G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory $67.99 @ Newegg
Storage Intel 660p Series 1.02 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive $94.99 @ Amazon
Storage Seagate Constellation CS ISE 3 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $55.50 @ Amazon
Storage Seagate Constellation CS ISE 3 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $55.50 @ Amazon
Video Card ASRock Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB Video Card $384.99 @ B&H
Case Fractal Design Focus G ATX Mid Tower Case $46.99 @ Walmart
Power Supply BitFenix Formula Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply $75.99 @ SuperBiiz
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total $1110.95
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-08-06 07:01 EDT-0400  

 

Not bad, but how much is the motherboard? I hope it's not very expensive...

 

Hmm... Any chance to get a Vega?

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Not bad, but how much is the motherboard? I hope it's not very expensive...

oh, yeah... i forgot to put that in

 

it should be around 250 dollars, as the wifi version is generally 20-30 bucks more, and currently 270 bucks

1 minute ago, Chiyawa said:

Any chance to get a Vega?

any reason to do so? the 5700xt is stronger than it

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1 minute ago, LukeSavenije said:
2 minutes ago, Chiyawa said:

Any chance to get a Vega?

any reason to do so? the 5700xt is stronger than it

Well, I use this to edit videos mostly. But I do sometimes render some 3D models such as Blender. I found out that Vega with HBM2 has a sweet spot between work and play. That's why I choose Vega. I haven't have much data on RX5700, apart from gaming.

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Well, I use this to edit videos mostly. But I do sometimes render some 3D models such as Blender. I found out that Vega with HBM2 has a sweet spot between work and play. That's why I choose Vega. I haven't have much data on RX5700, apart from gaming.

well... from what i've seen there are tasks vega simply does better because of different drivers, but keep in mind a good v64 will cost you about 70 dollars more

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2 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

well... from what i've seen there are tasks vega simply does better because of different drivers, but keep in mind a good v64 will cost you about 70 dollars more

Okay, noted. At least it's way cheaper than past few months. I saw some vendors sell them at close to $900 when it launch.

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Okay, noted. At least it's way cheaper than past few months. I saw some vendors sell them at close to $900 when it launch.

that price has been long gone, they are around half of that now

 

but then again, the 5700xt is out, and it's only to wait for custom cooled designs

 

and btw, look into the vii as well if you want to get serious work done, that thing has 16 gigs of hbm2 and costs between 600 and 700 dollars

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1 minute ago, LukeSavenije said:

look into the vii as well if you want to get serious work done, that thing has 16 gigs of hbm2 and costs between 600 and 700 dollars

Agree, but it's kinda rare these days. Hope AMD will still produce this.

 

Anyway, if I use vii, it will blow my budget. So, I guess I'm sticking with v64.

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2 minutes ago, Chiyawa said:

it will blow my budget

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor $329.00 @ B&H
Motherboard Gigabyte X570 AORUS PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard $250.00
Memory G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory $67.99 @ Newegg
Storage Intel 660p Series 1.02 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive $94.99 @ Amazon
Storage Seagate Constellation CS ISE 3 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $55.50 @ Amazon
Storage Seagate Constellation CS ISE 3 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $55.50 @ Amazon
Video Card PowerColor Radeon VII 16 GB Video Card $699.99 @ Amazon
Case Fractal Design Focus G ATX Mid Tower Case $46.99 @ Walmart
Power Supply BitFenix Formula Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply $75.99 @ SuperBiiz
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total $1675.95
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-08-06 07:26 EDT-0400  

you said?

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Hmm... That's a surprise. I thought it would blow my budget away, but it didn't. Looks like Vega price drop like crazy.

 

Anyway, thanks. This just fits my budget nicely (if include Windows 10 Pro for $149). I can always go for Vega 64 if I want to save a bit (Vega II has 60 Vega cores if not mistaken, but has tons of memory to work on).

 

Anyway, will 650W PSU sufficient for my build? Many do suggest to me to go for at least 750W, though.

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3 hours ago, Chiyawa said:

Hmm... That's a surprise. I thought it would blow my budget away, but it didn't. Looks like Vega price drop like crazy.

 

Anyway, thanks. This just fits my budget nicely (if include Windows 10 Pro for $149). I can always go for Vega 64 if I want to save a bit (Vega II has 60 Vega cores if not mistaken, but has tons of memory to work on).

 

Anyway, will 650W PSU sufficient for my build? Many do suggest to me to go for at least 750W, though.

Nah, 650W is enough for 1 gpu.

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On 8/7/2019 at 1:49 PM, Oalei said:

Nah, 650W is enough for 1 gpu.

Okay, thanks. I think I'll upgrade the PSU if I ever wanted to add in a new graphic card.

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Add in.

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45 minutes ago, Oalei said:

Replacing or add in a new card? 

Add in, or replace graphic cards with Crossfire or SLI support.

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