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A cheap Ryzen processor goes a long way. Your ancient FX CPU may have admirably held out for this long but unfortunately time waits for no processor. The 2600 can be had for barely over $100, toss it in an $80 motherboard and some DDR4 2666 or 3000 off eBay and you're off to the races for under $200.

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I've seen used B350/X370/B450 boards go for like $50.

 

The FX cpus while being 4, 6 and 8 cores perform really more like a hyperthreaded 2, 3 or 4 core. The cores have less per thread performance than some of the Phenoms that preceded them. While they're definitely not bad hardware, anything less than the FX8350 struggle in many modern games which unless you have great cooling and a heavy overclock will as well. AM3 is a great budget platform for basic computing but for games, there's much better hardware out there now.

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1 hour ago, Vainix said:

Would upgrading to the FX8350 help?

I don’t think I am capable of taking out the whole motherboard and changing it with a new one. Especially because of the panel connectors and such.

Why do you say this? Is your current computer a pre built with some weird case that won't let you do the swap? Or do you just think you can't handle plugging the stuff in because it looks confusing?

 

If its the first one, get a new case, you can get them dirt cheap if you want. They are not the greatest things but they work. I have used 30 dollar cases and they worked fine. Were not put together the best, or looked the greatest but they held the parts and did the job.

 

If its the second one, its not that hard, I promise. The motherboard will come with a book that shows all the pins and jumpers and what goes where. And the boards are labeled as well. So are the plugs on the case wires. If you can put together a model car or plane or something you can install a motherboard. Its easier than putting furniture together that is for sure lol. And there are tons of videos to help and you can ask us here if you get stuck.

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18 minutes ago, paulmohr said:

Why do you say this? Is your current computer a pre built with some weird case that won't let you do the swap? Or do you just think you can't handle plugging the stuff in because it looks confusing?

 

If its the first one, get a new case, you can get them dirt cheap if you want. They are not the greatest things but they work. I have used 30 dollar cases and they worked fine. Were not put together the best, or looked the greatest but they held the parts and did the job.

 

If its the second one, its not that hard, I promise. The motherboard will come with a book that shows all the pins and jumpers and what goes where. And the boards are labeled as well. So are the plugs on the case wires. If you can put together a model car or plane or something you can install a motherboard. Its easier than putting furniture together that is for sure lol. And there are tons of videos to help and you can ask us here if you get stuck.

Yes it is a prebuilt. Can you give me recommendations on the parts?

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Pre built doesn't always mean bad, but some of them make it so you can't upgrade or make it really hard, or they used to back in the day anyway. What brand and model computer is it?

 

19 minutes ago, Vainix said:

Yes it is a prebuilt. Can you give me recommendations on the parts?

You know, I am not very good at that sort of thing. Maybe someone else can help you with that, some are really good at. Just let them know where you live, what your budget is and what you want to do with the computer. I mean I could do a quick look on newegg or something and give you U.S prices, but some of these guys can source you a whole computer with prices for your country and links to parts and know what works well together. I don't even know how that PC Parts Picker thing works, never used it. I just use newegg or I drive a few hours to a Micro Center near Detriot.

 

Just remember that "better" doesn't always mean you need the latest and greatest stuff, escpecially if money is tight. Sometimes you just need something that is better than what you have and will do what you need it to for your needs. You most likely don't need a 3700x on a new x570 board with 32 gb of the fastest ram you can find. A 1700 on a b350 board with 16gb of average ram would probably be better than what you currently have.

 

I upgraded my computer to a 3600 cpu with 32 gigs of ram and a 2070FE video card in a fancy lian li glass case. Honest truth, my 1500x on a b350 board, 16gb of cheap 3000 ram and a 1060 video card did pretty everything I needed it too. I just wanted a change and I sold some guns I never used to finance it all. It was also over a period of time, a part here a part there. I got the 2070 not knowing new cards were coming out so I kind of got boned on that deal a little. Had I known and waited I could have done better for the money.

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1 hour ago, paulmohr said:

Pre built doesn't always mean bad, but some of them make it so you can't upgrade or make it really hard, or they used to back in the day anyway. What brand and model computer is it?

 

You know, I am not very good at that sort of thing. Maybe someone else can help you with that, some are really good at. Just let them know where you live, what your budget is and what you want to do with the computer. I mean I could do a quick look on newegg or something and give you U.S prices, but some of these guys can source you a whole computer with prices for your country and links to parts and know what works well together. I don't even know how that PC Parts Picker thing works, never used it. I just use newegg or I drive a few hours to a Micro Center near Detriot.

 

Just remember that "better" doesn't always mean you need the latest and greatest stuff, escpecially if money is tight. Sometimes you just need something that is better than what you have and will do what you need it to for your needs. You most likely don't need a 3700x on a new x570 board with 32 gb of the fastest ram you can find. A 1700 on a b350 board with 16gb of average ram would probably be better than what you currently have.

 

I upgraded my computer to a 3600 cpu with 32 gigs of ram and a 2070FE video card in a fancy lian li glass case. Honest truth, my 1500x on a b350 board, 16gb of cheap 3000 ram and a 1060 video card did pretty everything I needed it too. I just wanted a change and I sold some guns I never used to finance it all. It was also over a period of time, a part here a part there. I got the 2070 not knowing new cards were coming out so I kind of got boned on that deal a little. Had I known and waited I could have done better for the money.

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Amd fx 6300

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not sure of motherboard just see MSI on it

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Oh, that should be perfectly upgradable. They mostly just use standard parts. Its more of a custom build kind of thing vs an actual manufacturer. They are pretty much buying the same parts we could. Where you run into problems is with HP, Dell and stuff like that.

 

Or at least it used to be that way. They have boards, parts and cases specifically made for them at a lower cost. And they used to do stuff that actually made it impossible to upgrade or change things. Like if your motherboard went bad, or your power supply you had to get one of theirs from them. You couldn't just go to a store and get one. Its called Proprietory Parts. I don't think its a huge issue anymore for the most part. Who is really bad about it is Apple. They overcharge for everything, and if it breaks you might as well throw it away and get a new one. Back in the day in the 90s IBM, HP and Dell were really bad about it too.

 

I worked at a computer store in the early 90s when the 380 and 480 systems were the big thing. Some guy came in with an IBM 280 system that needed a new motherboard, that we could only get from IBM. We told him we could custom build him a state of the art new system with a 480dx, more ram, video card, modem, network card, larger drives and a monitor for less money than the motherboard would cost. He said no, his software was made for that computer and he had to have it fixed lol. He was wrong, but that is what he wanted and we couldn't change his mind. He had to have is shitty old IBM lol. Cost him over a $1000 dollar to have it fixed and it took us weeks to get the part. And this was like 91-92, a grand was a LOT of money.

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