Building my first ever computer

[Abdel11]

Hello there,

I'm building my first ever computer this summer, after some research i've assembled this build:

-RAIDMAX DELTA I + 2 White LED fans.
-GIGABYTE B450 AORUS M
-RYZEN 2600 6CORE 12 THREADS, with stock cooler
-MSI GAMING X GTX 1660Ti 6GB GDDR6
-T-FORCE VULCAN 2x4GB DDR4 2400MHZ CL14
-SEAGATE BARRACUDA 1TB 7200RPM 64MB CACHE.
-PNY CS900 120GB
-EVGA 500W BR 80 PLUS BRONZE.

What do you think about this setup it's my maximum budget i cannot afford something more than that, are there any reasonable upgrades i can make in the 750$ price range.

[ZeusXI]

6 minutes ago, Abdel11 said:

 

What do you think about this setup it's my maximum budget i cannot afford something more than that, are there any reasonable upgrades i can make in the 750$ price range.

Alright. so for ryzen they like fast, dual channel ram. 8GB single sick 2400 mhz would kinda hurt performance. as for storage drives, if you are going to spend money on a HDD and SSD, there are SSDs right now, 1TB models, going for around 90-100$ if you check out the sales. 

[Abdel11]

Just now, ZeusXI said:

Alright. so for ryzen they like fast, dual channel ram. 8GB single sick 2400 mhz would kinda hurt performance. as for storage drives, if you are going to spend money on a HDD and SSD, there are SSDs right now, 1TB models, going for around 90-100$ if you check out the sales. 

oh yeah my bad didn't point out that it's 2x4gb of ram and i'm gonna look into ssd and hope to find a good deal thanks mate

[ZeusXI]

3 minutes ago, Abdel11 said:

oh yeah my bad didn't point out that it's 2x4gb of ram and i'm gonna look into ssd and hope to find a good deal thanks mate

do you already have a case? or you looking to buy one?

[Abdel11]

1 minute ago, ZeusXI said:

do you already have a case? or you looking to buy one?

already have one a friend gave it to me 

[ZeusXI]

Just now, Abdel11 said:

already have one a friend gave it to me 

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor	$145.74 @ SuperBiiz
Motherboard	ASRock - Fatal1ty B450 Gaming-ITX/ac Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard	$89.99 @ Newegg
Memory	Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory	$69.89 @ OutletPC
Storage	ADATA - Ultimate SU800 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive	$94.99 @ Amazon
Video Card	MSI - GeForce GTX 1660 Ti 6 GB VENTUS XS OC Video Card	$254.99 @ Newegg
Power Supply	Corsair - RMx (2018) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	$89.99 @ Amazon
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$760.59
	Mail-in rebates	-$15.00
	Total	$745.59
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-06-27 17:29 EDT-0400

 

Check this out  faster ram, the 1TB  ssd, better PSU (in case you decide to upgrade down the road)

 

I know some would probably eat me for putting a mini-itx board there, but in the time ive built computers, i love m-itx. you only really need 1 GPU, and it comes with 4 sata ports for more storage options later, comes with wifi, and fits literally in any case. and it has 2 m.2 slots in case you want faster storage down the road with NVME drives

[Abdel11]

2 minutes ago, ZeusXI said:

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor	$145.74 @ SuperBiiz
Motherboard	ASRock - Fatal1ty B450 Gaming-ITX/ac Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard	$89.99 @ Newegg
Memory	Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory	$69.89 @ OutletPC
Storage	ADATA - Ultimate SU800 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive	$94.99 @ Amazon
Video Card	MSI - GeForce GTX 1660 Ti 6 GB VENTUS XS OC Video Card	$254.99 @ Newegg
Power Supply	Corsair - RMx (2018) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	$89.99 @ Amazon
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$760.59
	Mail-in rebates	-$15.00
	Total	$745.59
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-06-27 17:29 EDT-0400

 

Check this out  faster ram, the 1TB  ssd, better PSU (in case you decide to upgrade down the road)

 

I know some would probably eat me for putting a mini-itx board there, but in the time ive built computers, i love m-itx. you only really need 1 GPU, and it comes with 4 sata ports for more storage options later, comes with wifi, and fits literally in any case. and it has 2 m.2 slots in case you want faster storage down the road with NVME drives

oh ok thanks mate looks definitely good 

[ZeusXI]

Just now, Abdel11 said:

oh ok thanks mate looks definitely good 

Anytime  if you need anything more, pm me or comment here

[Ashiella]

54 minutes ago, Abdel11 said:

oh ok thanks mate looks definitely good 

I would wait until reviews of the 3rd ryzen chips come out. (7/7/19)

[Crunchy Dragon]

-Moved to New Builds and Planning-

[Ashiella]

1 minute ago, Crunchy Dragon said:

-Moved to New Builds and Planning-

you fricken mods!

THIS NEEDS TO BE A DEMOCRACY!
Also, the newbie should definitely not follow my rebellious examples.

[Crunchy Dragon]

Just now, Ashiella said:

you fricken mods!

THIS NEEDS TO BE A DEMOCRACY!
Also, the newbie should definitely not follow my rebellious examples.

In fairness, unless the OP needs the computer quickly, waiting for new Ryzen would be a better option.

[trevb0t]

2 hours ago, Abdel11 said:

oh yeah my bad didn't point out that it's 2x4gb of ram and i'm gonna look into ssd and hope to find a good deal thanks mate

That mess of advice was also pointing out that 2400mhz RAM is going to throttle your CPU's performance. 3000-3200mhz is where you wanna be. 16GB (2X8) would be a much more solid for gaming, since a lot of higher end titles will sit around 8-11GB use. 

 

That PSU needs to go. I'd look at either Corsair CX, Masterwatt Bronze (650W or greater), Pure Power 11... If you can find it at a good price I'd grab a BitFenix Gold. 

[ahmad13610]

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($145.74 @ SuperBiiz) 
Motherboard: MSI - B450M PRO-VDH PLUS Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($69.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: G.Skill - Sniper X 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-2666 Memory  ($63.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($43.66 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: PowerColor - Radeon RX VEGA 56 8 GB Red Dragon Video Card  ($309.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Thermaltake - Versa N24 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($39.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply  ($52.98 @ Newegg) 
Total: $726.34
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-06-27 23:33 EDT-0400

[trevb0t]

Approximation of your build (Raidmax Delta isn't in PCPartpicker, and there are a few EVGA Bronze units.)

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor	$145.74 @ SuperBiiz
Motherboard	Gigabyte - B450 AORUS M Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard	$84.89 @ OutletPC
Memory	Team - Vulcan 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR4-2400 Memory	$66.00 @ Amazon
Storage	PNY - CS900 120 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive	$17.99 @ Amazon
Storage	Seagate - Barracuda 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	$42.08 @ Amazon
Video Card	MSI - GeForce GTX 1660 Ti 6 GB GAMING X Video Card	$299.99 @ Amazon
Case	Raidmax - ATX-404WU ATX Mid Tower Case	$47.95 @ Newegg
Power Supply	EVGA - BQ 500 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply	$50.23 @ OutletPC
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$769.87
	Mail-in rebates	-$15.00
	Total	$754.87
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-06-28 02:48 EDT-0400

I would swap to something like this:

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor	$145.74 @ SuperBiiz
Motherboard	ASRock - B450M PRO4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard	$59.99 @ Newegg
Memory	V-Color - SKYWALKER 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory	$63.99 @ Amazon
Storage	PNY - CS900 120 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive	$17.99 @ Amazon
Storage	Seagate - Constellation ES 3 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	$51.50 @ Amazon
Video Card	Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1660 Ti 6 GB WINDFORCE OC Video Card	$279.99 @ Amazon
Case	Cooler Master - MB600L ODD ATX Mid Tower Case	$49.99 @ Amazon
Power Supply	Cooler Master - MWE Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	$69.99 @ Amazon
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$749.18
	Mail-in rebates	-$10.00
	Total	$739.18
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-06-28 03:07 EDT-0400

• In either build, the Ryzen 5 3600 will be something to look at. It is going to launch for $200, and claims a stronger single core performance.
• Pro4 and AORUS M quality difference is negligible for how much more the AORUS costs.
• 16GB DDR4 3000 at CL15. Great RAM at a great price!
• This 3TB HDD is only $9 more than the 1TB listed. Why not?
• This Windforce OC model 1660Ti has a stronger boost clock. The cooler is a touch less awesome, so if the plan is to OC, I stick to the Gaming X or grab a decent EVGA model. If you wanna plug and play, grab this one. 
• Case... Grab what you wanna grab. For the price I like this one or the Cougar MX330.
• CM MWE Gold is gonna blow that EVGA bronze (any given model) out of the water. Solid unit, and well priced currently.

[Abdel11]

6 hours ago, trevb0t said:

Approximation of your build (Raidmax Delta isn't in PCPartpicker, and there are a few EVGA Bronze units.)

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor	$145.74 @ SuperBiiz
Motherboard	Gigabyte - B450 AORUS M Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard	$84.89 @ OutletPC
Memory	Team - Vulcan 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR4-2400 Memory	$66.00 @ Amazon
Storage	PNY - CS900 120 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive	$17.99 @ Amazon
Storage	Seagate - Barracuda 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	$42.08 @ Amazon
Video Card	MSI - GeForce GTX 1660 Ti 6 GB GAMING X Video Card	$299.99 @ Amazon
Case	Raidmax - ATX-404WU ATX Mid Tower Case	$47.95 @ Newegg
Power Supply	EVGA - BQ 500 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply	$50.23 @ OutletPC
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$769.87
	Mail-in rebates	-$15.00
	Total	$754.87
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-06-28 02:48 EDT-0400

I would swap to something like this:

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor	$145.74 @ SuperBiiz
Motherboard	ASRock - B450M PRO4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard	$59.99 @ Newegg
Memory	V-Color - SKYWALKER 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory	$63.99 @ Amazon
Storage	PNY - CS900 120 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive	$17.99 @ Amazon
Storage	Seagate - Constellation ES 3 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	$51.50 @ Amazon
Video Card	Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1660 Ti 6 GB WINDFORCE OC Video Card	$279.99 @ Amazon
Case	Cooler Master - MB600L ODD ATX Mid Tower Case	$49.99 @ Amazon
Power Supply	Cooler Master - MWE Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	$69.99 @ Amazon
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$749.18
	Mail-in rebates	-$10.00
	Total	$739.18
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-06-28 03:07 EDT-0400

• In either build, the Ryzen 5 3600 will be something to look at. It is going to launch for $200, and claims a stronger single core performance.
• Pro4 and AORUS M quality difference is negligible for how much more the AORUS costs.
• 16GB DDR4 3000 at CL15. Great RAM at a great price!
• This 3TB HDD is only $9 more than the 1TB listed. Why not?
• This Windforce OC model 1660Ti has a stronger boost clock. The cooler is a touch less awesome, so if the plan is to OC, I stick to the Gaming X or grab a decent EVGA model. If you wanna plug and play, grab this one. 
• Case... Grab what you wanna grab. For the price I like this one or the Cougar MX330.
• CM MWE Gold is gonna blow that EVGA bronze (any given model) out of the water. Solid unit, and well priced currently.

ok thanks for youe help i will stay on the lookout for ryzen 3 as i see it' worth the wait, thanks mate

 

[Boinbo]

1 hour ago, Abdel11 said:

ok thanks for youe help i will stay on the lookout for ryzen 3 as i see it' worth the wait, thanks mate

 

Just so you know, you should try and get at least a 240 GB SSD. Also, you can get a used Vega 56 for the same price or cheaper, but will outperform that 1660ti. Even a new one is only $20 more! The PSU @trevb0t recommended can definitely handle it. I'm a little bit skeptical on the RAM choice, but trev, I feel like you would probably know more than me, so you know what you're doing. 3000MHz CL15 does sound nice, not going to lie.

[Abdel11]

8 minutes ago, Boinbo said:

Just so you know, you should try and get at least a 240 GB SSD. Also, you can get a used Vega 56 for the same price or cheaper, but will outperform that 1660ti. Even a new one is only $20 more! The PSU @trevb0t recommended can definitely handle it. I'm a little bit skeptical on the RAM choice, but trev, I feel like you would probably know more than me, so you know what you're doing. 3000MHz CL15 does sound nice, not going to lie.

I already have another 256GB samsung ssd that i used with my laptop it's the one that i'm going to use for the OS,  and yeah i'm going to consider vega for my build and i changed my ram and psu following the suggestion

[Boinbo]

50 minutes ago, Abdel11 said:

I already have another 256GB samsung ssd that i used with my laptop it's the one that i'm going to use for the OS,  and yeah i'm going to consider vega for my build and i changed my ram and psu following the suggestion

Your PSU was fine though, there wasn't anything to change.

[trevb0t]

11 hours ago, Boinbo said:

Just so you know, you should try and get at least a 240 GB SSD. Also, you can get a used Vega 56 for the same price or cheaper, but will outperform that 1660ti. Even a new one is only $20 more! The PSU @trevb0t recommended can definitely handle it. I'm a little bit skeptical on the RAM choice, but trev, I feel like you would probably know more than me, so you know what you're doing. 3000MHz CL15 does sound nice, not going to lie.

All RAM comes from 3 manufacturers, and the brands we buy have no loyalty to any particular one. All you're really buying when you grab a brand is the heat spreader, and the assurance that they're

 

tested/graded to work in the pairs given. Unless you're planning to overclock RAM heavily, there is no reason to be snobby about the spreader brand. These are plenty nice, and very hard to argue at the price. The next CL15 model is at least $10-15 more... 

 

11 hours ago, Boinbo said:

Just so you know, you should try and get at least a 240 GB SSD.

Nonsense advice. 120GB is plenty for boot and processes. On a tight budget there is no need to divert more money toward something that makes little performance difference.

 

10 hours ago, Boinbo said:

Your PSU was fine though, there wasn't anything to change.

EVGA's low tier models aren't great. In fact for the price, a CX series is a pretty big step up. This model just happens to be a small price gap, and a significant quality increase.

 

11 hours ago, Abdel11 said:

i'm going to consider vega for my build

When on a good sale, their value is hard to argue. The current sales aren't as good as we've seen in the past, but this Sapphire Pulse model is actually a really nice cooler and is the same price currently as the Gaming X 1660Ti you had initially listed. 

In most games, this would equate to something like a 20% FPS increase on avg from what I've seen. Titles that favor nVidia will still favor the 1660Ti (Mostly Ubisoft titles like Assassin's Creed. The newest Metro game as well.) But the difference is often negligible. If this were a question of an RTX 2060 or Vega 56, I would swing the 2060 route, but vs the 1660Ti, I would heavily consider Vega.

 

This example doesn't list the models used, but I find a lot of these guys use a blower reference card for Vega and a multi fan unit on nVidia, since that's what is more readily available respectively. Certainly at the $280 price point. So the results may be better given the Sapphire cooler Vega.

[Boinbo]

2 minutes ago, trevb0t said:

advice. 120GB is plenty

Oh I just read somewhere on the forums you want at least 240gb SSD. As for the ram issue, okay, good to know.

[trevb0t]

6 minutes ago, Boinbo said:

Oh I just read somewhere on the forums you want at least 240gb SSD. As for the ram issue, okay, good to know.

If it's your only drive, I certainly wouldn't go less than 480GB (That's about the capacity of a PS4 or XBone drive, and that holds a handful of big games.)

 

If you're just going to do all file and game computing off of a HDD, then really a 60GB boot drive would be fine, since currently Windows only uses up less than 11GB. (more like 10.3) and an SSD won't see performance loss often until 70%+ capacity (give or take some for varying drive quality.)

 

Obviously a larger SSD would give you some space to add a few titles to it. The only real benefit is a bit faster load screens, though.

[Boinbo]

Just now, trevb0t said:

If it's your only drive, I certainly wouldn't go less than 480GB (That's about the capacity of a PS4 or XBone drive, and that holds a handful of big games.)

 

If you're just going to do all file and game computing off of a HDD, then really a 60GB boot drive would be fine, since currently Windows only uses up less than 11GB. (more like 10.3) and an SSD won't see performance loss often until 70%+ capacity (give or take some for varying drive quality.)

Alright, thanks for letting me know dude.