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[Tspec]

Greetings Forum User's 

 

I am currently running Acer Predator Gaming Z321QU bmiphzx Curved 31.5"  G-Sync monitor ,Nvidia GeForce GTX 1060 8G OC, Intel Core i5-7600k CPU Z270-A LGA1151 DDR4 ATX Motherboard
ballistix sport ddr4 X2 8G =16 Gb's and will be upgrading to .......

 

ASUS Prime Z370-A II (Intel 9th Gen) 

as for the CPU I no you all are going to be recommending AMD But i already spent 400$Christmas deal VS the 700$ Current MSRP on my g sync monitor this is where my question comes into play

Intel Core i7-8700K comes with 6 core 12 threads VS the I9- 9700K Which comes with 8 cores 8 threads

is the difference noticeable with a higher thread count or equal cores and threads for streaming ?

I am  aware that my graphics card is out dated but i will be intending to sell the parts in my current build to add to the budget for my GPU as well as waiting prices to go down to possibly get a 2080 ti i will be doing my purchase July this summer hopefully the best deal's will be around then

 

The most demanding game that i play while streaming is Rainbow Six Siege and in loading screen's i get around 180FPS with streaming on and while in intensive situation dip in the 50's but usually stay around the high 80's

if i am not streaming i easily get 200FPS All Around with the low intense situations getting into the 180

 

If anyone has any recommendations other then AMD Please feel free to add your peace of mind it is greatly appreciated that you are taking the time out of the day or night to give input :)

When streaming on twitch.tv/Tspec Which also gives acces to my instagram for quicker reply's not trying to advertise but show previous videos and what the quality looks like. my internet provider is 300MB'S unlimited download and 32 mbs upload and is smooth at 1080p , 60 FPS there is some in game stuttering when swapping to other games partially due to the factor that there are no launch options for disabling v-sync Also I am not currently Running OBS, Or Stream Elements because it is a little more demanding on the system and run Ge force Experience for a smoother EXP

[Tspec]

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PC Status	Overall this PC is performing as expected (57th percentile). This means that out of 100 PCs with exactly the same components, 43 performed better. The overall PC percentile is the average of each of its individual components.
Processor	With a brilliant single core score, this CPU is the business: It demolishes everyday tasks such as web browsing, office apps and audio/video playback. Additionally this processor can handle moderate workstation, and even light server workloads. Finally, with a gaming score of 96.1%, this CPUs suitability for 3D gaming is outstanding.
Graphics	59.7% is a reasonable 3D score (GTX 1070 = 100%). This GPU can handle the majority of recent games but it will struggle with resolutions greater than 1080p at ultra detail levels. (Note: general computing tasks don't require 3D graphics)
Memory	16GB is enough RAM to run any version of Windows and it's more than sufficient for nearly all games. 16GB also allows for very large file and system caches, software development and batch photo editing/processing.
OS Version	Windows 10 is the most recent version of Windows, and the best to date in our opinion.

 

 

Motherboard	Asus PRIME Z270-AR  (all builds)
Memory	13.3 GB free of 16 GB @ 2.4 GHz
Display	2560 x 1440 - 32 Bit colors
OS	Windows 10
BIOS Date	20161227
Uptime	1.1 Days
Run Date	Jun 14 '19 at 06:05
Run Duration	124 Seconds
Run User	USA-User
Background CPU	4%

 

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Processor	Bench	Single core	Quad core	Multi core
Intel Core i5-7600K-$251 92,464 User benchmarks, average bench 90% LGA1151, 1 CPU, 4 cores, 4 threads Base clock 3.8 GHz, turbo 4.15 GHz (avg)    Performing above expectations (75thpercentile)	96.1%Outstanding	SC Int 127 SC Float 136 SC Mixed 131   105% 131 Pts	QC Int 467 QC Float 537 QC Mixed 502   114% 502 Pts	MC Int 469 MC Float 538 MC Mixed 499   75% 502 Pts
Poor: 68%↑ This bench: 96.1% Great: 108%

Graphics Card	Bench	3D DX9	3D DX10	3D DX11
Nvidia GTX 1060-6GB-$230 620,088 User benchmarks, average bench 70% MSI(1462 3283) CLim: 1949 MHz, MLim: 2002 MHz, Ram: 6GB, Driver: 430.86    Performing way below expectations (5thpercentile)	59.7%Above average	Lighting 164 Reflection 164 Parallax 164   51% 164 fps	MRender 146 Gravity 164 Splatting 164   66% 158 fps
Poor: 60%↑ This bench: 59.7% Great: 77%

Drives	Bench	Sequential	Random 4k	Deep queue 4k
Samsung 840 Evo 120GB-$138 51,832 User benchmarks, average bench 91% 19GB free (System drive) Firmware: EXT0BB0Q    Relative performance n/a - sequential bench incomplete		Read 506 Write 399 Mixed 304   89% 403 MB/s	4K Read 47.7 4K Write 127 4K Mixed 57.9   214% 77.4 MB/s	DQ Read 378 DQ Write 342 DQ Mixed 172   181% 297 MB/s
Poor: 63%Great: 108%
Seagate Momentus 2.5" 1TB 144,095 User benchmarks, average bench 42% 433GB free Firmware: 2BA30001 SusWrite @10s intervals: 88 86 88 88 87 87 MB/s  Performing above expectations (71stpercentile)	49.4%Average	Read 84.5 Write 62 Mixed 51.3 SusWrite 87.3   52% 71.3 MB/s	4K Read 0.5 4K Write 2.1 4K Mixed 0.7   138% 1.1 MB/s
Poor: 16%↑ This bench: 49.4% Great: 60%

Memory Kit	Bench	Multi core	Single core	Latency
Crucial BLS8G4D240FSB.16FBD 2x8GB 10,853 User benchmarks, average bench 81% 2 of 4 slots used 16GB DIMM DDR4 clocked @ 2400 MHz    Performing above expectations (78thpercentile)	85.5%Excellent	MC Read 29.2 MC Write 33.2 MC Mixed 28.9   87% 30.4 GB/s	SC Read 16.3 SC Write 33.7 SC Mixed 26   72% 25.3 GB/s	Latency 61.1   66% 61.1 ns
Poor: 45%↑ This bench: 85.5% Great: 100%

[Spotty]

When you stream are you using Software encoding or Hardware NVENC encoding? Using Hardware NVENC will put the load on the GPU which can handle it with a significantly less performance hit than CPU (software) encoding. Might help solve some of your problems without the need for changing hardware.

Also Nvidia is rumoured to be announcing new "Super" GPUs soon, so probably wait to see what they are before committing to a RTX2080Ti.

[Tspec]

@SpottyThank you for tagging along in this forum i am currently using nvidia Gerforce Experience for streaming i was curious about 

intel Core i7-8700K comes with 6 core 12 threads VS the I9- 9700K Which comes with 8 cores 8 threads

is the difference noticeable with a higher thread count or equal cores and threads for streaming ? 

or should I go for a 2080 graphics card or wait like i was planning to till July 

When deciding either a new mother board / cpu or better gpu which would you recommend being more beneficial for the greatest increase in overall performance if i leave my i5-7600 with upgrading my gpu im concerned the CPU wont be enough for pairing with the graphics card

[Spotty]

17 minutes ago, Tspec said:

@SpottyThank you for tagging along in this forum i am currently using nvidia Gerforce Experience for streaming i was curious about 

intel Core i7-8700K comes with 6 core 12 threads VS the I9- 9700K Which comes with 8 cores 8 threads

is the difference noticeable with a higher thread count or equal cores and threads for streaming ? 

or should I go for a 2080 graphics card or wait like i was planning to till July 

When deciding either a new mother board / cpu or better gpu which would you recommend being more beneficial for the greatest increase in overall performance if i leave my i5-7600 with upgrading my gpu im concerned the CPU wont be enough for pairing with the graphics card

Considering you're using a 1440p 144hz (165hz overclockable) monitor, I would go with the GPU upgrade first. That will give you the biggest performance increase. Then just use NVENC encoding through OBS for streaming and that should make things easier for the CPU.

I honestly don't know whether the i7 8700k or i7 9700k would be better for streaming. If you use NVENC encoding it shouldn't matter.

[Tspec]

@Spotty Much Appreciated I will be  going towards the route of upgrading the GPU and waiting till July to do . Thank you so much for your quick reply in regards to one last question when running games my CPU while streaming sits around 80 percent usage and then will jump to 100 percent on high demanding situation do you believe upgrading the GPU will relieve less stress on my CPU ?

[Spotty]

1 minute ago, Tspec said:

when running games my CPU while streaming sits around 80 percent usage and then will jump to 100 percent on high demanding situation do you believe upgrading the GPU will relieve less stress on my CPU ?

Uhh, no. Actually it will make it appear worse.

The GPU and CPU are somewhat tied together in terms of performance when it comes to gaming. The faster your graphics card performs, the more work the CPU needs to do in order to keep up with it.

At 1440p your GTX 1060 is going to be limiting your performance. Your CPU will only need to work as hard as it needs to in order to keep up with the GTX 1060.
If you replace that GTX 1060 with a more powerful card like the RTX 2080 or RTX 2080 Ti, then you will be able to get a higher FPS in games, which means that your CPU will need to work much harder in order to keep up with the faster graphics card.

So while your CPU might max out at 80% usage now with your GTX 1060, if you upgrade to a more powerful GPU it's likely that your CPU will show higher usage, probably 100% usage as it won't be able to keep up with the faster graphics card. In that situation your CPU will be limiting your performance.
But... Overall you will be running at a higher FPS and getting better performance. So it might look like it's running worse if you only look at the CPU usage figures, but the system as a whole is running better and you'd be getting better performance.

Make sense?
I feel like I've done a terrible job explaining it so if you're confused just let me know and I'll try explaining it again

[Tspec]

Makes complete sense essentially what I want to do is get the rtx 2080 or maybe even a 2070 paired with the i7 8700k or they i9 8700k my question between the difference of these to CPU'S  is the i7 has 6 cores and 12 threads and then i9 has  8 cores 8 threads.would more thread be better for streaming and not bottle necking or more cores and equal thread's  my budget is around 700$ atm and i want to sell my graphics card for around 230 and then the cpu for 150-200 and the mother board for 100 to be able to purchase my gpu cpu and mother board so in total i would be spending around 1200/1300$ @Spotty since prices are for cpu and mother boards are at it's low and since newer graphics cards will be coming out do you think that sticking with the 1060 after upgrading the mother board and the cpu would help out with my bottleneck and my stream untill I am able to get my hands on a 2070 or 2080 ? i just am in a pickle in between picking which parts i should swap first eventually they will all be done so in which order would be the most reasonable besides purchasing all at one go

[Spotty]

Just now, Tspec said:

and i want to sell my graphics card for around 230 and then the cpu for 150-200

Brand new GTX 1060s sell for less than $230. You can get a brand new GTX1660s for $230. You won't be able to get that much for it used. Probably more like $100-$150 at most depending on if its the 3GB or 6GB and which model of card.

[Tspec]

it is the geforce gtx 1060 6 gb armor ocv1

 https://www.amazon.com/MSI-GTX-1060-ARMOR-OCV1/dp/B01L9VB642

$338.80·Amazon.comFree shipping

$469.00·Newegg.comFree shipping

$155.00·eBayUsed, free shipping, no tax

$299.52·Grooves-Inc.comFree shipping, no tax

$388.23·ComputerCity

i have only been using the gpu for 1 month and still have the receit as well as all the items are under warranty so they could swap it out for a brand new cpu gpu and mother board

@Spotty

[Spotty]

2 minutes ago, Tspec said:

it is the geforce gtx 1060 6 gb armor ocv1

 https://www.amazon.com/MSI-GTX-1060-ARMOR-OCV1/dp/B01L9VB642

$338.80·Amazon.comFree shipping

$469.00·Newegg.comFree shipping

$155.00·eBayUsed, free shipping, no tax

$299.52·Grooves-Inc.comFree shipping, no tax

$388.23·ComputerCity

i have only been using the gpu for 1 month and still have the receit as well as all the items are under warranty so they could swap it out for a brand new cpu gpu and mother board

@Spotty

Please tell me you didn't pay $338 for the card from Amazon only a month ago?
The reason why those prices are so high are because it is a discontinued product and there's only limited stock available, whatever stock is left over from when it was discontinued 6+ months ago... This often causes weird pricing which is higher than what it should actually be.

If you only bought the parts a month ago you may still be within the return window and you might be able to return it for a refund. Do that if you can.

[Tspec]

im 2 days over the return window  i went to micro center and paid $285 after tax @Spotty

[Spotty]

6 minutes ago, Tspec said:

im 2 days over the return window  i went to micro center and paid $285 after tax @Spotty

Could have got a GTX1660Ti or even a Vega 56 for that price. Maybe even a used 1070ti/1080.

 

Well, on the bright side at least you didn't pay $338 for it from Amazon

[ahmad13610]

no need w8 for 3000 ryzen. 1440p gaming gap fps between mid end ~ high end cpu not so far.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600X 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($179.79 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: MSI - B450 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($109.99 @ B&H) 
Memory: G.Skill - Sniper X 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($76.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: ADATA - XPG GAMMIX S5 256 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($39.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce RTX 2080 8 GB FTW3 ULTRA GAMING Video Card  ($739.99 @ B&H) 
Case: Cougar - MX330 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($36.13 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: Corsair - TXM Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply  ($84.99 @ Corsair) 
Total: $1267.87
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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[Tspec]

@ahmad13610 like i posted in the forum i will never be going with ryzen thank you for input i just wanted to the the difference between the 2 CPU'S that i picked 

 

Thank you so much for you input