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So I want to build a PC for gaming and music production

These are the specs I have in mind

Core i5 9600k $250

Gtx 1070 OC $220 (buying it used)

16gb of ram 

 

I have several questions to ask

1. Is this a good combination?

2. Can I get something better for the price?

3. What is good budget motherboard?

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15 minutes ago, ChungBung said:

So I want to build a PC for gaming and music production

These are the specs I have in mind

Core i5 9600k $250

Gtx 1070 OC $220 (buying it used)

16gb of ram 

 

I have several questions to ask

1. Is this a good combination?

2. Can I get something better for the price?

3. What is good budget motherboard?

That's a good start. Ryzen 3000 might be better if you can wait until July 7th. This would be good if you can't. Where are you located?

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel - Core i5-9600K 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($249.99 @ Walmart)
CPU Cooler: Scythe - Mugen 5 Rev. B 51.17 CFM CPU Cooler  ($47.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock - B365M Phantom Gaming 4 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($79.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $377.97
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-06-01 23:30 EDT-0400

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1 minute ago, Bearmann said:

CPU: Intel - Core i5-9600K 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($249.99 @ Walmart)
Motherboard: ASRock - B365M Phantom Gaming 4 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($79.99 @ Amazon)

the 9600k would be pointless with a B365 board.

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X Heatsink: Gelid Phantom Black GPU: Palit RTX 3060 Ti Dual RAM: Corsair DDR4 2x8GB 3000Mhz mobo: Asus X570-P case: Fractal Design Define C PSU: Superflower Leadex Gold 650W

 

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7 minutes ago, Bearmann said:

That's a good start. Ryzen 3000 might be better if you can wait until July 7th. This would be good if you can't. Where are you located?

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel - Core i5-9600K 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($249.99 @ Walmart)
CPU Cooler: Scythe - Mugen 5 Rev. B 51.17 CFM CPU Cooler  ($47.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock - B365M Phantom Gaming 4 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($79.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $377.97
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-06-01 23:30 EDT-0400

Hmm

The only thing keeping me away from getting a Ryzen 5 is how good it is for music production

 

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I'll try again.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel - Core i5-9600K 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($249.99 @ Walmart)
CPU Cooler: Scythe - Mugen 5 Rev. B 51.17 CFM CPU Cooler  ($47.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - Z390 AORUS PRO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($169.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $467.97
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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That's a nice overclocking MB, but there are less expensive ones which may not overclock as well.

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12 minutes ago, ChungBung said:

Hmm

The only thing keeping me away from getting a Ryzen 5 is how good it is for music production

 

I would think that they would be good (benchmarks pending,) but perhaps someone with more knowledge in music production can address this.

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2 hours ago, brob said:

The i5-9600K is a reasonable choice. Without knowing the overall budget it is tough to say if it is the optimal choice.

I'm not trying to spend over $900

According to my calculations

The CPU and GPU will cost me about $480

Leaving me $420 for the other components

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With that budget you should consider an AMD build. Something like the just announced Ryzen 5 3600 or 3600X should allow you to put together a decent build under US$900. An i5-9600K requires the purchase of a decent cpu cooler and a z390 motherboard forcing the choice of less than optimal storage, case, and psu.

80+ ratings certify electrical efficiency. Not quality.

 

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3 hours ago, brob said:

With that budget you should consider an AMD build. Something like the just announced Ryzen 5 3600 or 3600X should allow you to put together a decent build under US$900. An i5-9600K requires the purchase of a decent cpu cooler and a z390 motherboard forcing the choice of less than optimal storage, case, and psu.

Can you show me a good CPU cooler

And when you mean a z390 do you mean this

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07HRZRBRJ/?tag=pcpapi-20

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18 minutes ago, brob said:

Yes the Z390 Aorus Pro is a decent choice.

 

CPU cooler choice depends in part on the choice of case and memory.

I will like to get this case

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/FCs8TW/phanteks-eclipse-p300-tempered-glass-atx-mid-tower-case-ph-ec300ptgbk

 

Also what do you mean by the motherboard being decent choice?

Does that mean good performance?

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It means it is not the worst choice, nor the best choice. Given the overall budget that motherboard is likely going to mean spending less in other areas. 

 

Same chipset motherboard performance differences are quite small and generally reflected in the price bracket.

Noctua - NH-U12S 55 CFM CPU Cooler, there is also a newer model NH-U12A if you can find it.

 

be quiet! - Dark Rock 4 CPU Cooler

 

80+ ratings certify electrical efficiency. Not quality.

 

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If you could scrape another $50 together, you could upgrade to an i7-8700K which is so much more solid than the 9600K.

Really the 9600K is only viable in gaming if you can achieve a 5.1 OC on it, so as @Herman Mcpootis stated, you'd need a decent Z390 MOBO to achieve this clock speed. Otherwise you'd be better off looking at a Ryzen 7 in the budget range. The 9600K is not a great productivity chip, and not Hyperthreaded for processes.

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU Intel - Core i7-8700K 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor $349.99 @ Walmart
CPU Cooler ARCTIC - Freezer 34 eSports DUO CPU Cooler $39.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard Gigabyte - Z390 UD ATX LGA1151 Motherboard $109.99 @ Newegg
Memory Team - Vulcan 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory $66.89 @ OutletPC
Storage ADATA - SU655 120 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive $17.99 @ Amazon
Storage Hitachi - Ultrastar 7K3000 3 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $46.35 @ Amazon
Video Card EVGA - GeForce GTX 1070 8 GB SC GAMING ACX 3.0 Black Edition Video Card $220.00
Case Deepcool - DSHIELD-V2 ATX Mid Tower Case $49.98 @ Newegg
Power Supply Corsair - CX (2017) 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply $42.98 @ Newegg
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total (before mail-in rebates) $959.16
  Mail-in rebates -$15.00
  Total $944.16
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-06-03 05:01 EDT-0400  

 

Otherwise, I'd grab an R7 2700, since it's going to beat the 9600K no contest in productivity, and is only just a bit below it in gaming when both OCed.

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD - Ryzen 7 2700 3.2 GHz 8-Core Processor $209.89 @ OutletPC
CPU Cooler be quiet! - Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM CPU Cooler $88.09 @ Amazon
Motherboard Gigabyte - X470 AORUS ULTRA GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard $109.89 @ OutletPC
Memory Team - Vulcan 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory $66.89 @ OutletPC
Storage Intel - 660p Series 512 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive $62.89 @ OutletPC
Storage Hitachi - Ultrastar 7K3000 3 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $46.35 @ Amazon
Video Card EVGA - GeForce GTX 1070 8 GB SC GAMING ACX 3.0 Black Edition Video Card $220.00
Case Deepcool - DSHIELD-V2 ATX Mid Tower Case $49.98 @ Newegg
Power Supply Corsair - CX (2017) 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply $42.98 @ Newegg
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total (before mail-in rebates) $931.96
  Mail-in rebates -$35.00
  Total $896.96
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-06-03 05:04 EDT-0400  

Better cooler, better MOBO, better SSD, and again: better at productivity.

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Just to throw my hat in the ring as well:

 

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD - Ryzen 7 2700 3.2 GHz 8-Core Processor $209.89 @ OutletPC
CPU Cooler ARCTIC - Freezer 34 eSports DUO CPU Cooler $39.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard ASRock - B450M PRO4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard $59.99 @ Newegg
Memory Team - Vulcan 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory $66.89 @ OutletPC
Storage Intel - 660p Series 512 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive $62.89 @ OutletPC
Storage Hitachi - Ultrastar 7K3000 3 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $46.35 @ Amazon
Video Card Asus - GeForce RTX 2060 6 GB DUAL OC Video Card $329.99 @ Newegg
Case Cooler Master - MasterBox Q300 MicroATX Mini Tower Case $39.99 @ Amazon
Power Supply Corsair - CX (2017) 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply $42.98 @ Newegg
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total (before mail-in rebates) $943.96
  Mail-in rebates -$45.00
  Total $898.96
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-06-03 05:39 EDT-0400  

 

Note that the esports duo cooler performs almost as well as a Noctua D15 for less than half the price. With the savings from that and a less expensive, but still more than capable of overclocking, motherboard I was able to fit in an RTX 2060.

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3 hours ago, jerubedo said:

Just to throw my hat in the ring as well:

 

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD - Ryzen 7 2700 3.2 GHz 8-Core Processor $209.89 @ OutletPC
CPU Cooler ARCTIC - Freezer 34 eSports DUO CPU Cooler $39.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard ASRock - B450M PRO4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard $59.99 @ Newegg
Memory Team - Vulcan 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory $66.89 @ OutletPC
Storage Intel - 660p Series 512 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive $62.89 @ OutletPC
Storage Hitachi - Ultrastar 7K3000 3 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $46.35 @ Amazon
Video Card Asus - GeForce RTX 2060 6 GB DUAL OC Video Card $329.99 @ Newegg
Case Cooler Master - MasterBox Q300 MicroATX Mini Tower Case $39.99 @ Amazon
Power Supply Corsair - CX (2017) 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply $42.98 @ Newegg
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total (before mail-in rebates) $943.96
  Mail-in rebates -$45.00
  Total $898.96
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-06-03 05:39 EDT-0400  

 

Note that the esports duo cooler performs almost as well as a Noctua D15 for less than half the price. With the savings from that and a less expensive, but still more than capable of overclocking, motherboard I was able to fit in an RTX 2060.

The Arctic Freezer 34 eSports is a good 4 heatpipe cooler, but for music production I would rather have a larger 6 pipe, single fan cooler which will likely be quietier, e.g. Mugen 5, Dark Rock Pro 4, Noctua U14s. I would also want a large, well ventilated case to help with heat dissipation and keep the fans at low RPM's.

 

You should really wait until July 7th if you can.

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On 6/3/2019 at 5:08 AM, trevb0t said:

If you could scrape another $50 together, you could upgrade to an i7-8700K which is so much more solid than the 9600K.

Really the 9600K is only viable in gaming if you can achieve a 5.1 OC on it, so as @Herman Mcpootis stated, you'd need a decent Z390 MOBO to achieve this clock speed. Otherwise you'd be better off looking at a Ryzen 7 in the budget range. The 9600K is not a great productivity chip, and not Hyperthreaded for processes.

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU Intel - Core i7-8700K 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor $349.99 @ Walmart
CPU Cooler ARCTIC - Freezer 34 eSports DUO CPU Cooler $39.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard Gigabyte - Z390 UD ATX LGA1151 Motherboard $109.99 @ Newegg
Memory Team - Vulcan 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory $66.89 @ OutletPC
Storage ADATA - SU655 120 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive $17.99 @ Amazon
Storage Hitachi - Ultrastar 7K3000 3 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $46.35 @ Amazon
Video Card EVGA - GeForce GTX 1070 8 GB SC GAMING ACX 3.0 Black Edition Video Card $220.00
Case Deepcool - DSHIELD-V2 ATX Mid Tower Case $49.98 @ Newegg
Power Supply Corsair - CX (2017) 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply $42.98 @ Newegg
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total (before mail-in rebates) $959.16
  Mail-in rebates -$15.00
  Total $944.16
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-06-03 05:01 EDT-0400  

 

Otherwise, I'd grab an R7 2700, since it's going to beat the 9600K no contest in productivity, and is only just a bit below it in gaming when both OCed.

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD - Ryzen 7 2700 3.2 GHz 8-Core Processor $209.89 @ OutletPC
CPU Cooler be quiet! - Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM CPU Cooler $88.09 @ Amazon
Motherboard Gigabyte - X470 AORUS ULTRA GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard $109.89 @ OutletPC
Memory Team - Vulcan 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory $66.89 @ OutletPC
Storage Intel - 660p Series 512 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive $62.89 @ OutletPC
Storage Hitachi - Ultrastar 7K3000 3 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $46.35 @ Amazon
Video Card EVGA - GeForce GTX 1070 8 GB SC GAMING ACX 3.0 Black Edition Video Card $220.00
Case Deepcool - DSHIELD-V2 ATX Mid Tower Case $49.98 @ Newegg
Power Supply Corsair - CX (2017) 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply $42.98 @ Newegg
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total (before mail-in rebates) $931.96
  Mail-in rebates -$35.00
  Total $896.96
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-06-03 05:04 EDT-0400  

Better cooler, better MOBO, better SSD, and again: better at productivity.

Wouldn't a i7 8700k have issues with a GTX 1070?

A friend told me that a 1070 will cause issues and to get a 1070 ti or a 1080

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1 hour ago, ChungBung said:

Wouldn't a i7 8700k have issues with a GTX 1070?

A friend told me that a 1070 will cause issues and to get a 1070 ti or a 1080

Did your friend advise what those issues might be? The 1070 is just fine at the price range. Unless you get a dud, you'll have no hardware issues. (PayPal will allow you to be issued a refund)

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13 minutes ago, trevb0t said:

Did your friend advise what those issues might be? The 1070 is just fine at the price range. Unless you get a dud, you'll have no hardware issues. (PayPal will allow you to be issued a refund)

So the i7 build you made,

Is that the best I can get for under $1,000?

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36 minutes ago, ChungBung said:

So the i7 build you made,

Is that the best I can get for under $1,000?

That will largely depend on what the needs are for your music production software requires. I like @jerubedos 2700 and 2060 build as well.

 

The 2060 would offer more gaming power and the 2700 would offer great production computing. 

 

That 8700k build would also work very nicely. 

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