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Hi So first of all im not sure if its right section for that sort of problems, sorry if its wrong. 

Im getting a little bit annoyed by my notebook with i believe i7 6xxxhq and gtx 960m 2gb alltho im not playing any New titles but i would like to do it in near future. 

Found 2 options on ebay equivalent in my Country. 

First one is :

- AMD Ryzen 7 1700 8 core CPU

asus prime x470-pro

- 16 GB DDR4 Ram
- MSI Nvidia GTX 1060 6GB gaming X
- 2x 128 GB M.2 SSD
- 500 GB HDD
- 650 watt voeding
- Corsair carbide 275R kast

- random full HD 24 screen

Vs 556 USD. 

 

Second deal is :

Asus ROG Swift PG278Q
Intel core i7 6700K
Asus ROG Maximus VIII Hero
Mugen 5 PCGH Edition
Samsung 960 EVO

2x Crucial 500GB
Gigabyte GTX 1070 
Corsair RM 550x
Corsair ML 120 Pro Led fans
Corsair Graphite 780t 
Corsair 16GB low profile
Razor Deathadder Chroma
Corsair K70 

VS 945 USD. 

Im aware that price range is totally different but second options provide decent screen and accesories aswell With some rgb fans. 

 

 

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First one no motherboard?

 

Second one based on a dead platform, not ideal but probably fine for the price

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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@Ragern I assume you’re living in the Netherlands as it says ‘voeding’ - what is your budget in euros?

 

would you be comfortable building something yourself? 

 

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8 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

First one no motherboard?

 

Second one based on a dead platform, not ideal but probably fine for the price

Edited aswell with GPU model

 

6 minutes ago, Stormseeker9 said:

@Ragern I assume you’re living in the Netherlands as it says ‘voeding’ - what is your budget in euros?

 

would you be comfortable building something yourself? 

Hey. Yea im from Netherlands. Well i would like to get pc and screen within 1000 euro. Its not a problem to build pc myself but never done watercooling. 

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6 minutes ago, Ragern said:

Edited aswell with GPU model

what games will you play? If it's not competitive I'd recommend the Ryzen build with upgrades thrown at it.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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2 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

what games will you play? If it's not competitive I'd recommend the Ryzen build with upgrades thrown at it.

Well games like Poe, diablo, Wow, Wot, Csgo, fortnite, Witcher 3 nothing crazy but i was playing on shitty pc with terrible screen on lowest graphic settings, i would like to change it now. For budget option with ryzen and then 1080p 144mhz screen for price difference might be good option. 

Second deal tho provides a really nice screen. Hard to choose. 

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26 minutes ago, Ragern said:

Second deal tho provides a really nice screen.

problem is the graphics card. It can probably maintain 60fps on medium settings in the more demanding of games at 1440p, but I'd rather play 1080p high or very high settings. Upgrading is more difficult for the CPU side as well as there are no higher core count options for this board.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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5 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

problem is the graphics card. It can probably maintain 60fps on medium settings in the more demanding of games at 1440p, but I'd rather play 1080p high or very high settings. Upgrading is more difficult for the CPU side as well as there are no higher core count options for this board.

Understand. So if i Will go for ryzen its 1080p with smooth 144mhz right? 

If i Will go with Intel i need to upgrade to rtx 2060/70 to play smoothly on 1440p? 

Summary both options are decent for the price? 

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18 minutes ago, Ragern said:

Understand. So if i Will go for ryzen its 1080p with smooth 144mhz right? 

your choice of games except the Witcher 3 are all less demanding than average so 144fps shouldn't be too hard, though that needs a) high frequency dual channel memory and b) a faster graphics card. Even in the less demanding ones the 1060 6gb is only good for 80-100fps when overclocked.

 

20 minutes ago, Ragern said:

If i Will go with Intel i need to upgrade to rtx 2060/70 to play smoothly on 1440p? 

144fps and high settings, yes. Last time I heard used market dont exist in your country? Otherwise snatching a used 1070ti or 1080 could be good idea as well. AMD's offering will be the Vega 56 and 64.

 

21 minutes ago, Ragern said:

Summary both options are decent for the price? 

Cheaper Ryzen build is more suitable for workstation use (can game but more of a part time job) while Intel build is somewhat unbalanced. I can understand the price, just no idea why the seller would build something like that.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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@Jurrunio well used market for sure exist and also i have acces to german used market which is pretty BIG. Im tempted to go for Intel Just because its once purchase and i have everything 2 screens (good and BASIC second) good keyboard Mouse etc. Later on i would go for aio watercooling and better graphics card.

 

Let me know which one u would choose.

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1 hour ago, Ragern said:

@Jurrunio well used market for sure exist and also i have acces to german used market which is pretty BIG. Im tempted to go for Intel Just because its once purchase and i have everything 2 screens (good and BASIC second) good keyboard Mouse etc. Later on i would go for aio watercooling and better graphics card.

 

Let me know which one u would choose.

Intel since you do competitve gaming. I dont, so I'd buy the Ryzen build myself and slap the fastest card I can afford into it (maybe new PSU)

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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