Build Recommendations

[Jurrunio]

3 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

the most overpriced line on z390, hero code and formula have the vrms worse than a z390 UD

less phases doesn't mean its worse. The non-Aorus Gigabyte Z390 boards use 10 phases of our old friend, onsemi 4C10 + 4C06. I dont think a proper 16 phase can make these do better than the 8 phases worth of SiC639 in 4 phase mode.

 

4 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

that's not the problem... it should be allowed to do a little higher, but turn off when reaching a certain point

 

spoiler: it doesn't

I dont think 2700 + 2080 can draw enough power to need triggering OCP or OPP either, that's 500w max of sustained load?

 

Just now, LukeSavenije said:

i know, but inside the budget it's really nice to have

 

and with a vii you truely have something special and powerful

didnt Premiere Pro do worse with OpenCL comparing to CUDA? 

[LukeSavenije]

4 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

less phases doesn't mean its worse. The non-Aorus Gigabyte Z390 boards use 10 phases of our old friend, onsemi 4C10 + 4C06. I dont think a proper 16 phase can make these do better than the 8 phases worth of SiC639 in 4 phase mode.

touche

 

4 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

dont think 2700 + 2080 can draw enough power to need triggering OCP or OPP either, that's 500w max of sustained load?

about, tho I'd never recommend it, especially since the peak power of the 2080 can actually overload it

 

4 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

didnt Premiere Pro do worse with OpenCL comparing to CUDA? 

ow wow... it had a bigger effect than i thought it would...

[Jason1987]

42 minutes ago, jerubedo said:

OK I have 2 options for you, and I'll explain the advantages of both below (because if I were in this position I'm not sure which one I'd go with. Since I'm more of a gamer than an editor I'd probably go with the more gaming oriented choice).

 

First:

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD - Ryzen 7 2700X 3.7 GHz 8-Core Processor	$405.75 @ Vuugo
Motherboard	ASRock - B450 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard	$100.10 @ Vuugo
Memory	Corsair - Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory	$212.99 @ Newegg Canada
Storage	Samsung - 970 Evo Plus 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive	$168.75 @ Vuugo
Storage	Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	$48.99 @ Newegg Canada
Video Card	Zotac - GeForce RTX 2060 6 GB GAMING Video Card	$459.50 @ Vuugo
Case	Corsair - 200R ATX Mid Tower Case	$59.99 @ Canada Computers
Power Supply	Corsair - TXM Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply	$79.99 @ Canada Computers
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$1586.06
	Mail-in rebates	-$50.00
	Total	$1536.06
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-04-22 17:03 EDT-0400

 

Second:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type	Item	Price
CPU	Intel - Core i7-9700K 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor	$518.75 @ Vuugo
CPU Cooler	ARCTIC - Freezer 33 eSports ONE (Black/Red) CPU Cooler	$47.92 @ Amazon Canada
Motherboard	Gigabyte - Z390 AORUS ELITE ATX LGA1151 Motherboard	$219.00 @ Canada Computers
Memory	Corsair - Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory	$212.99 @ Newegg Canada
Storage	Samsung - 970 Evo Plus 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive	$168.75 @ Vuugo
Storage	Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	$48.99 @ Newegg Canada
Video Card	Zotac - GeForce RTX 2060 6 GB GAMING Video Card	$459.50 @ Vuugo
Case	Corsair - 200R ATX Mid Tower Case	$59.99 @ Canada Computers
Power Supply	Corsair - TXM Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply	$79.99 @ Canada Computers
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$1845.88
	Mail-in rebates	-$30.00
	Total	$1815.88
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-04-22 17:27 EDT-0400

 

So the first build is going to do slightly better in video editing, even in Premiere Pro.

 

The second build will do slightly worse in Premiere Pro, but MUCH better in other Adobe applications like Photoshop or Aftereffects and in gaming.

 

The second build is nearly $300 more, and for that extra $300 you're really only getting a few extra FPS (when paired with the 2060. HOWEVER if you upgrade to a more powerful GPU later, the performance differential will be even bigger) and a big boost in other Adobe applications. So if it's worth that to you, then go with that. Otherwise the 2700x build is the better value proposition.

Thanks for your reply, but I have decided from previous experience to stay away from Amd cpus, Gpus and gigabyte MBs.

 

If I go with your intel build above but opt out the gpu and mb with Asus prime Z390-a and keep everything else. Is that good? 

[jerubedo]

7 minutes ago, Jason1987 said:

Thanks for your reply, but I have decided from previous experience to stay away from Amd cpus, Gpus and gigabyte MBs.

 

If I go with your intel build above but opt out the gpu and mb with Asus prime Z390-a and keep everything else. Is that good? 

Yes. The only thing I will say is that on the Z390 chipset, Gigabyte is currently the industry leader at all price points for VRM quality and number of phases. That being said, the choice is ultimately yours . 

 

As for opting out of the GPU, that one is an Nvidia from Zotac. Which one were you thinking?

 

[Jason1987]

2 minutes ago, jerubedo said:

Yes. The only thing I will say is that on the Z390 chipset, Gigabyte is currently the industry leader at all price points for VRM quality and number of phases at every single price point. That being said, the choice is ultimately yours . 

 

As for opting out of the GPU, that one is an Nvidia from Zotac. Which one were you thinking?

 

I was thinking of just staying with the rtx 2070 by Asus..

[jerubedo]

1 minute ago, Jason1987 said:

I was thinking of just staying with the rtx 2070 by Asus..

Ah, yep, you can do that too. Solid build overall.

[Jason1987]

2 minutes ago, jerubedo said:

Ah, yep, you can do that too. Solid build overall.

Thanks!

appreciated!

[Hotseff]

2 hours ago, Jurrunio said:

it's not overkill, just heavy Asus tax. Same reason to put the Z390-A option down.

 

Cooler-wise, if you go with the paste 8700k then the 280mm rad Corsair H110i (and variants), EVGA CLC280, NZXT X62 as the costly but RGB alternative. The soldered 9700k can do with worse coolers like the Dark Rock Pro 4, though of course there's upper limit of better cooling as far as daily use of an 8700k or 9700k goes.

 

As for PSU

750w is as much as you need for a single GPU system considering 9900k + 2080ti draw up to 600w. This system atm wont draw more than 450w no matter what.

 

Premiere pro is heavy on the CPU. For a pure editing system even 9900k + 2060 makes sense.

 

might as well go air cooling like the Cryorig H7 Quad Lumi or Deepcool Gammaxx GT at that point, small AIOs perform far from what the price suggests

 

Even B450 boards do better

 

Not even a good price + will go past its output rating at times

The second build was his original that was made as a price comparison for the build that I was suggesting. Also the reason I went for that motherboard because I was only looking at X470 for some reason not even thinking about B450 boards and I was also looking for an ample amount of USB ports that could then be used for any external storage devices or anything else OP needed to use USB for. The PSU in the end was more of a cost saving measure and PCPartPicker's Power Draw calculator said it should draw around 339 Watts. So this would be the new build I'd suggest based off of what I've seen for replies

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD - Ryzen 7 2700 3.2 GHz 8-Core Processor	$316.38 @ Amazon Canada
Motherboard	Asus - ROG STRIX B450-F GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard	$169.99 @ Newegg Canada
Memory	G.Skill - Trident Z RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory	$251.99 @ Newegg Canada
Storage	ADATA - XPG SX8200 Pro 512 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive	$119.99 @ Amazon Canada
Storage	Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	$74.50 @ Vuugo
Video Card	Zotac - GeForce RTX 2080 8 GB GAMING AMP Video Card	$929.00 @ Canada Computers
Power Supply	SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply	$129.99 @ Canada Computers
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$2016.84
	Mail-in rebates	-$25.00
	Total	$1991.84
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-04-22 19:40 EDT-0400

 

[Jurrunio]

2 hours ago, Hotseff said:

The second build was his original that was made as a price comparison for the build that I was suggesting.

uhm, I'm not the one talking about the second build

 

2 hours ago, Hotseff said:

Power Supply SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply $129.99 @ Canada Computers

2 hours ago, Hotseff said:

AMD - Ryzen 7 2700 3.2 GHz 8-Core Processor

These two are already criticized before