Cable extension questions

[Nobaris]

Hey guys,

    I'm here with another build this time, you can check it out here: 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type	Item	Price
CPU	Intel - Core i7-9700K 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor	$409.89 @ OutletPC
CPU Cooler	NZXT - Kraken X72 Liquid CPU Cooler	$159.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard	Gigabyte - Z390 AORUS ULTRA ATX LGA1151 Motherboard	$229.99 @ Amazon
Memory	G.Skill - Trident Z RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory	$125.98 @ Newegg
Storage	Samsung - 970 Evo Plus 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive	$126.63 @ OutletPC
Video Card	Gigabyte - GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11 GB AORUS XTREME Video Card	$1299.99 @ Newegg
Case	Phanteks - ECLIPSE P400 TEMPERED GLASS ATX Mid Tower Case	$79.99 @ Amazon
Power Supply	EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply	$129.89 @ OutletPC
Case Fan	Corsair - LL120RGB LED (Three Fans With Lighting Node PRO) 43.25 CFM 120mm Fans	$97.40 @ OutletPC
Case Fan	Corsair - ML120 PRO RGB (3 pack w/Lighting Node PRO) 47.3 CFM 120mm Fans	$99.70 @ Amazon
Monitor	Acer - XZ321QU bmijpphzx 31.5" 2560x1440 144 Hz Monitor	$399.99 @ Amazon
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$3189.44
	Mail-in rebates	-$30.00
	Total	$3159.44
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-04-19 23:33 EDT-0400

    The parts here are pretty much final, however, any suggestions are welcome. But I'm not here for the parts, but instead the cables. I want a little cable modding in this system, mainly cable extensions and combs. Questions: which cable mods do I need? (one 8-pin, one 6-pin, one 24-pin? I'm not sure what I need) PSU cables? Cable combs? Other stuff I need? Finally. in total, how much would everything roughly cost? Hope somebody can clear my queries.

   

Thanks in advance

 

 

 

[Nobaris]

By the way, which brands should I look at? I'm currently considering CableMod.

[Dedayog]

10 minutes ago, Nobaris said:

By the way, which brands should I look at? I'm currently considering CableMod.

Cablemod is nice, you need them for any cable you'd see.  Motherboard cables and GPU cables at the minimum.

 

Also, why didn't you go 9900K?  I honestly wouldn't pair anything else with a 2080Ti if you're going with a $1200 GPU.  I mean, you spent $200 in Rainbow Brite fans, why not another $80 for the best mainstream CPU currently out?

[Nobaris]

Just now, jstudrawa said:

Motherboard cables and GPU cables at the minimum.

Well, based on my motherboard and GPU, what cables extensions do I need? I'm guessing one 24-pin, one 6-pin and one 8-pin. Am I right? Also, how much would everything cost roughly?

2 minutes ago, jstudrawa said:

Also, why didn't you go 9900K?  I honestly wouldn't pair anything else with a 2080Ti if you're going with a $1200 GPU.

That said, the Aorus Xtreme is one of the cheaper 2080 Tis. Do you really think a 9900K is necessary? I don't see it, this PC is mainly for gaming. Trying to keep the budget as low as I can go here.

 

P.S. What colours/theme should I use for the lighting of this PC? It might help with the choice of cable colours.

[Dedayog]

9 minutes ago, Nobaris said:

Well, based on my motherboard and GPU, what cables extensions do I need? I'm guessing one 24-pin, one 6-pin and one 8-pin. Am I right? Also, how much would everything cost roughly?

That said, the Aorus Xtreme is one of the cheaper 2080 Tis. Do you really think a 9900K is necessary? I don't see it, this PC is mainly for gaming. Trying to keep the budget as low as I can go here.

 

P.S. What colours/theme should I use for the lighting of this PC? It might help with the choice of cable colours.

Your GPU takes 2 8-pin connectors, you need to research your parts.  I don't know what the Cablemod sets cost, you can find them at www.cablemod.com or on Amazon.

 

I just spit tea out of my nose.   You're looking at over $3200 for a PC build with a $1300 GPU (it's midrange in price) and $200 in lighted fans.... and you want to keep cost down?   Your PC isn't about cost or worth, it's balls out. 

 

Yes, the 9900K is worth a 3% increase in your total PC cost.  

 

If you want to talk about worth it, you don't need a 2080Ti for 1440p 144Hz at all either.  You're way overboard on this thing for gaming, for example the colored fans aren't going to increase FPS at all while the 9900K will   The 970 EVO is a waste for gaming as well.  

 

Hey, it's your money to spend any way you want.  I just want you understanding fully what you're spending it on is all.

[Nobaris]

1 hour ago, jstudrawa said:

I just want you understanding fully what you're spending it on is all.

Thank you. 

 

1 hour ago, jstudrawa said:

Your GPU takes 2 8-pin connectors, you need to research your parts. 

All right, I realised this is found on the product page on Gigabyte's website, thank you very much!

 

1 hour ago, jstudrawa said:

You're way overboard on this thing for gaming, for example the colored fans aren't going to increase FPS at all while the 9900K will   The 970 EVO is a waste for gaming as well.  

Then what CPU, GPU and SSD do you recommend? I kinda like having my games at constantly about 200-250 FPS, looks really good and smooth. However, my number 1 priority is looks/acoustics. It is going to be on my desk the whole time, I really want it to look good.

[Dedayog]

8 hours ago, Nobaris said:

Thank you. 

 

All right, I realised this is found on the product page on Gigabyte's website, thank you very much!

 

Then what CPU, GPU and SSD do you recommend? I kinda like having my games at constantly about 200-250 FPS, looks really good and smooth. However, my number 1 priority is looks/acoustics. It is going to be on my desk the whole time, I really want it to look good.

Well, since you only have a 144Hz monitor, having FPS that high is a bit overkill don't you think?   I think you'd be more than fine with a 2080 or a used 1080Ti for 144Hz gaming with that 9700K or a more thread 8700K OC.

 

But if you want 200+ fps truly...Like I said, I would up to the 9900K for a measly bit more.  Then I'd just rock the Intel 660p, Crucial or Western Digital SSD's in the 1TB size for the same price as that 500GB 970.

 

They're all going to feel the same speed, so it doesn't matter.  The file sizes you're accessing transfer at the same rate on SATA or NVMe drives.  Get more room for more games, is my theory.

 

If you want better looks for your RGB, did you look at the Lian Li 011 Dynamic?  I think that's a good looking case for desk sitting.  The Phanteks is cool, it's all subjective for looks really.

 

Others may have better experience tho… like @LukeSavenije or @Princess Cadence.  

 

[LukeSavenije]

29 minutes ago, jstudrawa said:

Others may have better experience tho… like @LukeSavenije or @Princess Cadence.  

 

I've been summoned

 

my turn

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type	Item	Price
CPU	Intel - Core i7-8700K 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor	$365.99 @ Walmart
CPU Cooler	be quiet! - Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM CPU Cooler	$84.99 @ SuperBiiz
Motherboard	Gigabyte - Z390 AORUS ELITE ATX LGA1151 Motherboard	$159.99 @ Amazon
Memory	G.Skill - Trident Z RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory	$125.98 @ Newegg
Storage	Crucial - P1 1 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive	$128.89 @ OutletPC
Video Card	EVGA - GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11 GB Black Video Card	$1076.98 @ Newegg
Case	Cooler Master - MasterCase H500 ATX Mid Tower Case	$95.98 @ Newegg
Power Supply	Corsair - HX Platinum 750 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply	$119.89 @ OutletPC
Monitor	Acer - XZ321QU bmijpphzx 31.5" 2560x1440 144 Hz Monitor	$399.99 @ Amazon
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$2588.68
	Mail-in rebates	-$30.00
	Total	$2558.68
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-04-20 10:08 EDT-0400

 

[Nobaris]

16 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

I've been summoned

 

my turn

Haha, thanks a lot! You've helped me and the community countless times before and I really appreciate that! As for the build, everything seems fine, except for the cooler (I want an AIO, but no worries on that I'll just change it myself), and the storage options. Is that SSD going to be fast enough for all my games and files? By the way, I feel the 8700K is going to be a bit too little for the 2080 Ti...

[LukeSavenije]

16 minutes ago, Nobaris said:

Haha, thanks a lot! You've helped me and the community countless times before and I really appreciate that! As for the build, everything seems fine, except for the cooler (I want an AIO, but no worries on that I'll just change it myself), and the storage options. Is that SSD going to be fast enough for all my games and files? By the way, I feel the 8700K is going to be a bit too little for the 2080 Ti...

most people don't need a 9900k, 8700k for gaming with a 2080 ti would be great. heck, I'd trust a 9600k with it

[Nobaris]

4 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

most people don't need a 9900k, 8700k for gaming with a 2080 ti would be great. heck, I'd trust a 9600k with it

That's why I chose the 9700K, but is it too overkill? What about the SSD? Isn't 500GB enough? My current laptop has 256GB and I barely use half, which is why I feel 500GB should be enough.

[LukeSavenije]

30 minutes ago, Nobaris said:

That's why I chose the 9700K, but is it too overkill? What about the SSD? Isn't 500GB enough? My current laptop has 256GB and I barely use half, which is why I feel 500GB should be enough.

8700k is actually better in a lot of cases. you can get a 500gb if you want to. keep in mind the p1 is qlc tho

[Dedayog]

2 hours ago, LukeSavenije said:

8700k is actually better in a lot of cases. you can get a 500gb if you want to. keep in mind the p1 is qlc tho

See, I agree with the 8700K with the 2080Ti only when you're trying to just fit that 2080Ti into the build.  If you're going to spend $3200+ on a build tho, it has to have a 9900K in it.

 

256 and only using half?  Are you only playing one game?  That's a lot of money for one game, damn.

[Nobaris]

8 hours ago, LukeSavenije said:

8700k is actually better in a lot of cases.

In what ways, may I ask? I don’t quite understand. 

 

8 hours ago, LukeSavenije said:

keep in mind the p1 is qlc tho

Does that make a huge difference? What does it do?

[Nobaris]

5 hours ago, jstudrawa said:

If you're going to spend $3200+ on a build tho, it has to have a 9900K in it.

Well, I’ve seen many completed builds on pcpartpicker that cost wayy over $3500 and they have a 9900K and a 2060, calling it a PC for gaming. Aren’t the priorities toppled? Shouldn’t the GPU be the main concern for gaming builds? I’m sorry, I still do not quite understand the need for a 9900K while saying a 2080 Ti is overkill for gaming. 

 

5 hours ago, jstudrawa said:

Are you only playing one game?

Well, no. I play Overwatch, Rainbow Six Siege, Osu, a little Geometry Dash, and CS:GO sometimes. My laptop also stores some working stuff and a few coding files, and that’s roughly 130GB. Welp, how do people even find 3TB not enough?

[LukeSavenije]

12 minutes ago, Nobaris said:

In what ways, may I ask? I don’t quite understand. 

the 8700k has 4 more threads, and generally does better in games. no more, no less

 

12 minutes ago, Nobaris said:

Does that make a huge difference? What does it do?

you'll clearly notice when you fall outside the cache...

 

(quad layer memory btw)

[Nobaris]

24 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

the 8700k has 4 more threads,

Hold on, I’m a little confused now. Doesn’t

more cores seem better for gaming? I know that the clock speed of the two doesn’t matter because they can be overclocked, but what does more threads do?

27 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

you'll clearly notice when you fall outside the cache...

 

(quad layer memory btw)

?? Sorry, I’m kind of a newbie, I don’t get any of these stuff. In layman’s terms?

[LukeSavenije]

13 minutes ago, Nobaris said:

Hold on, I’m a little confused now. Doesn’t

more cores seem better for gaming? I know that the clock speed of the two doesn’t matter because they can be overclocked, but what does more threads do?

threads are like hands, cores are like mouths

 

two hands per mouth=hyperthreading=faster

 

the 9700k has one hand per mouth=slower than two hands

 

it comes short to the 8700k in many games

15 minutes ago, Nobaris said:

? Sorry, I’m kind of a newbie, I don’t get any of these stuff. In layman’s terms?

qlc packs more memory per chip, but can be slower than even some sata drives when handling bigger writes than the built in cache can hold

 

so you can pack more data cheaply with qlc, but it can be a little slower sometimes

[Nobaris]

55 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

it comes short to the 8700k in many games

However in some tech videos, like Paul’s Hardware and Gamer’s Nexus, they have done some benchmarking on both CPUs and found the 9700K better for games, although a little more expensive. Can you explain why? It’s kinda like 2 different infos coming in right now. 

As for the SSD, you said that it is a little slower. Is the speed downgrade significant/substantial or should it be ignored as it won’t have a noticeable impact on games?

[Dedayog]

2 hours ago, Nobaris said:

Well, I’ve seen many completed builds on pcpartpicker that cost wayy over $3500 and they have a 9900K and a 2060, calling it a PC for gaming. Aren’t the priorities toppled? Shouldn’t the GPU be the main concern for gaming builds? I’m sorry, I still do not quite understand the need for a 9900K while saying a 2080 Ti is overkill for gaming. 

 

Well, no. I play Overwatch, Rainbow Six Siege, Osu, a little Geometry Dash, and CS:GO sometimes. My laptop also stores some working stuff and a few coding files, and that’s roughly 130GB. Welp, how do people even find 3TB not enough?

There's no way a $3500 build should have a 2060 in it, unless it's a $900 ultrawide monitor and lots of storage.

 

Here's my Steam and other game libraries...

 

 

[Nobaris]

28 minutes ago, jstudrawa said:

Here's my Steam and other game libraries...

Well, I don't think I will be using even 500GB. That's a shit ton of stuff you got there, how many games do you have exactly? That's so much storage!

[Nobaris]

2 hours ago, LukeSavenije said:

threads are like hands, cores are like mouths

 

two hands per mouth=hyperthreading=faster

 

the 9700k has one hand per mouth=slower than two hands

 

it comes short to the 8700k in many games

By the way, how much cooling is enough? I have always had a fetish for 360mm radiators, but is it truly necessary? 

[Dedayog]

9 minutes ago, Nobaris said:

By the way, how much cooling is enough? I have always had a fetish for 360mm radiators, but is it truly necessary? 

If you're OCing a 8700K, 9700K or 9900K, a 360mm is good to have.  You can do a nice air cooler, but a 360 works nicely.

 

I got tired of swapping out games due to space issues.  Plus, Ark is over 260GB alone with all the mods.  I have Diablo 3, Fallout 76, Lord of the Rings Online cuz I pop in once in a while, etc.

 

It's 2 1TB 860 EVO's.  SATA SSD

[Nobaris]

2 hours ago, jstudrawa said:

If you're OCing a 8700K, 9700K or 9900K, a 360mm is good to have.  You can do a nice air cooler, but a 360 works nicely.

 

I've always like the Kraken series from NZXT because of their amazing block design! However, none of them come with RGB fans, so I looked at COrsair. Unfortunately, the only 360mm AIO they had did not have RGB fans, only their 280mm and below did. I don't really want to spend an extra 100 bucks just for the fans even though they are really good and worth it, so what do you suggest? Do I grab a 280mm, or just bite the bullet and buy the fans for a better look?

2 hours ago, jstudrawa said:

I got tired of swapping out games due to space issues.  Plus, Ark is over 260GB alone with all the mods.  I have Diablo 3, Fallout 76, Lord of the Rings Online cuz I pop in once in a while, etc.

 

It's 2 1TB 860 EVO's.  SATA SSD

Damn. That's a lot of storage for one game, I suppose. You see, Overwatch is only about 10GB, and CS:GO even lesser. Is M.2 necessary for my use case? TBH, it's just a little more, I suppose...

[Dedayog]

7 hours ago, Nobaris said:

I've always like the Kraken series from NZXT because of their amazing block design! However, none of them come with RGB fans, so I looked at COrsair. Unfortunately, the only 360mm AIO they had did not have RGB fans, only their 280mm and below did. I don't really want to spend an extra 100 bucks just for the fans even though they are really good and worth it, so what do you suggest? Do I grab a 280mm, or just bite the bullet and buy the fans for a better look?

Damn. That's a lot of storage for one game, I suppose. You see, Overwatch is only about 10GB, and CS:GO even lesser. Is M.2 necessary for my use case? TBH, it's just a little more, I suppose...

First, you may be confusing M.2 with NVMe.  M.2 is just a size.  SATA SSD's come in 2.5" size (like a laptop drive) or the M.2 size (bubble gum stick). 

 

NVMe drives only come in M.2 size.  

 

So I am suggesting a SATA SSD, pick 2.5" or M.2 size for it.  I went M.2 for my 860 EVO's so they just fit on the motherboard nicely.  That part is completely your call.

 

This may help...

 

 

A 280mm AIO will be enough for cooling, a good compromise in size and cooling.  It's equivalent to a high end air cooler, but if it has the RGB you want... get it.  You're paying a bit more for the same cooling vs a good air cooler but it has the benefit of sleek design and RGB fans you want.  It will work.