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GtfoDragon57
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1 hour ago, GtfoDragon57 said:

 

It was plugged into the top one but I made sure it was the graphics that it's plugged into. I cant figure out why it was only showing 512. I also cant get the social club to udate cuz i dont have internet and am using my phones hotspot lol. Got to play it for like 15 minutes, blue screened and now takes like 4 hours to update and fails at yhe end so i cant sign into social club to play offline. UGH but my data refreshes on the 23rd lol... I don't have an exact budget but around 200 or less is what I would prefer. Not a ton of extra cash atm lol. I planned on seeing what might NEED to be upgraded before I decided how to move forward. 

Yeesh, that sounds like a mess. For social club, try uninstalling it completely and reinstalling it from the game's bin folder. Sometimes Social Club gets corrupted, it sucks and it's so annoying that Rockstar makes you have that to play.

 

Anyway that aside. Hardware-wise, the GPU is definitely the weakest link. Everything else is still largely capable. For less than $200 you can get an RX 580:

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/XYDzK8/asus-radeon-rx-580-4gb-dual-video-card-dual-rx580-o4g

 

EDIT: This one for the same price. I copied/pasted the wrong link by accident above. 8GB vs 4GB for the same price:

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/8Hw7YJ/asus-radeon-rx-580-8-gb-arez-dual-oc-video-card-arez-dual-rx580-o8g

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So, a friend built me a desktop back in 2013 and I recently decided to start buying some AAA games instead of just online games. I got GTAV, thinking it was plenty to run it smoothly and it can barely run it. The memory it shows is only 512mb in game. Or at least that's what it says. I'll post the parts list, looking to find out what i need to do or upgrade. I found a GeForce GTX 1050 ti 4gb and a AMD  Radeon HD 7870 2gb on Amazon, thinking a new card would solve this issue. Havn't ordered them yet, though. The graphics I'm currently using is 2 AMD Radeon HD 7750 with crossfire. 

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What kind of budget do you have for the upgrade? Any parts that you will reuse? 

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600  Heatsink: ID-Cooling Frostflow X GPU: Zotac GTX 1060 Mini 6GB RAM: KLEVV Bolt 3600Mhz (2x8GB) Mobo: ASUS B550-F ROG Strix (Wifi)  Case: Fractal Design Meshify C PSU: Deepcool DQ-M-V2L

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is the monitor connected to the top graphics card (not rear I/O of the motherboard)?

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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34 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

is the monitor connected to the top graphics card (not rear I/O of the motherboard)? 

Definitely check this. The game should not be showing 512MB, it should show 1GB, so you might have your monitor plugged into your motherboard and therefore are using the CPU's integrated graphics instead of your graphics cards.

 

HOWEVER, those GPUs you have are only 1GB (and even though you have 2 of them, when dealing with Crossfire/SLI it doesn't stack, so you still just have 1GB of VRAM). That is assuredly a huge bottleneck today.

 

I would upgrade it either way to a single decent card. An RX 570 or 580 are good choices for 1080p gaming. Neither of those will be bottlenecked by your CPU, plus you have 16GB of RAM which is good too. So just get one of those cards depending on your budget and you should be good to go!

 

And make sure you plug the monitor into it and not the motherboard.

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56 minutes ago, jerubedo said:

Definitely check this. The game should not be showing 512MB, it should show 1GB, so you might have your monitor plugged into your motherboard and therefore are using the CPU's integrated graphics instead of your graphics cards.

 

HOWEVER, those GPUs you have are only 1GB (and even though you have 2 of them, when dealing with Crossfire/SLI it doesn't stack, so you still just have 1GB of VRAM). That is assuredly a huge bottleneck today.

 

I would upgrade it either way to a single decent card. An RX 570 or 580 are good choices for 1080p gaming. Neither of those will be bottlenecked by your CPU, plus you have 16GB of RAM which is good too. So just get one of those cards depending on your budget and you should be good to go!

 

And make sure you plug the monitor into it and not the motherboard.

It was plugged into the top one but I made sure it was the graphics that it's plugged into. I cant figure out why it was only showing 512. I also cant get the social club to udate cuz i dont have internet and am using my phones hotspot lol. Got to play it for like 15 minutes, blue screened and now takes like 4 hours to update and fails at yhe end so i cant sign into social club to play offline. UGH but my data refreshes on the 23rd lol... I don't have an exact budget but around 200 or less is what I would prefer. Not a ton of extra cash atm lol. I planned on seeing what might NEED to be upgraded before I decided how to move forward. 

Also, which gpu would be a better buy?

GTX 1050 TI or RX 580

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It was plugged into the top one but I made sure it was the graphics that it's plugged into. I cant figure out why it was only showing 512. I also cant get the social club to udate cuz i dont have internet and am using my phones hotspot lol. Got to play it for like 15 minutes, blue screened and now takes like 4 hours to update and fails at yhe end so i cant sign into social club to play offline. UGH but my data refreshes on the 23rd lol... I don't have an exact budget but around 200 or less is what I would prefer. Not a ton of extra cash atm lol. I planned on seeing what might NEED to be upgraded before I decided how to move forward. 

Yeesh, that sounds like a mess. For social club, try uninstalling it completely and reinstalling it from the game's bin folder. Sometimes Social Club gets corrupted, it sucks and it's so annoying that Rockstar makes you have that to play.

 

Anyway that aside. Hardware-wise, the GPU is definitely the weakest link. Everything else is still largely capable. For less than $200 you can get an RX 580:

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/XYDzK8/asus-radeon-rx-580-4gb-dual-video-card-dual-rx580-o4g

 

EDIT: This one for the same price. I copied/pasted the wrong link by accident above. 8GB vs 4GB for the same price:

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/8Hw7YJ/asus-radeon-rx-580-8-gb-arez-dual-oc-video-card-arez-dual-rx580-o8g

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6 minutes ago, GtfoDragon57 said:

 I don't have an exact budget but around 200 or less is what I would prefer. Not a ton of extra cash atm lol. I planned on seeing what might NEED to be upgraded before I decided how to move forward. 

Get an RX 580 8gb and a corsair CX for the PSU, since the ultra doesn't look like a good PSU.

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X Heatsink: Gelid Phantom Black GPU: Palit RTX 3060 Ti Dual RAM: Corsair DDR4 2x8GB 3000Mhz mobo: Asus X570-P case: Fractal Design Define C PSU: Superflower Leadex Gold 650W

 

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10 minutes ago, jerubedo said:

Yeesh, that sounds like a mess. For social club, try uninstalling it completely and reinstalling it from the game's bin folder. Sometimes Social Club gets corrupted, it sucks and it's so annoying that Rockstar makes you have that to play.

 

Anyway that aside. Hardware-wise, the GPU is definitely the weakest link. Everything else is still largely capable. For less than $200 you can get an RX 580:

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/XYDzK8/asus-radeon-rx-580-4gb-dual-video-card-dual-rx580-o4g

Thanks! I'll definitely get that ordered soon and try the reinstalled thing. I got the disks and didn't think about having to "activate it" online. So dumb. I added links to a GTX and an RX, would the RX still be better?

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1 minute ago, GtfoDragon57 said:

Thanks! I'll definitely get that ordered soon and try the reinstalled thing. I got the disks and didn't think about having to "activate it" online. So dumb. I added links to a GTX and an RX, would the RX still be better?

Yep, it'll outperform the 1050 Ti by a wide margin in quite a few games.

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5 minutes ago, jerubedo said:

Yep, it'll outperform the 1050 Ti by a wide margin in quite a few games.

Ok, awesome! Thanks so much! Hopefully this fixes it ^_^. We chose the parts based on upgrading the graphics later and I guess that time has come lol.

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6 minutes ago, GtfoDragon57 said:

Thanks! I'll definitely get that ordered soon and try the reinstalled thing. I got the disks and didn't think about having to "activate it" online. So dumb. I added links to a GTX and an RX, would the RX still be better?

Oh, I linked the wrong RX 580! DON'T buy that one. For the SAME price you can get the 8GB card instead of the 4GB card:

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/8Hw7YJ/asus-radeon-rx-580-8-gb-arez-dual-oc-video-card-arez-dual-rx580-o8g

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On 4/15/2019 at 12:17 AM, jerubedo said:

Oh, I linked the wrong RX 580! DON'T buy that one. For the SAME price you can get the 8GB card instead of the 4GB card:

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/8Hw7YJ/asus-radeon-rx-580-8-gb-arez-dual-oc-video-card-arez-dual-rx580-o8g

So random update... while playing with/checking settings of everything... discovered my crossfire WASN'T ENABLED.... strange.. And I also talked to a neighbor and they are letting me borrow some of their wifi lol. So was able to update GTAV and get it started now that crossfire is going "properly", lol. Anyway, get it up and going and check the memory, and it shows "1864mb/2064mb"... my wife is using the cpu so I'll try to get a pick of it, later... just thought it was weird how the vram is showing 2gb in game.

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3 minutes ago, GtfoDragon57 said:

So random update... while playing with/checking settings of everything... discovered my crossfire WASN'T ENABLED.... strange.. And I also talked to a neighbor and they are letting me borrow some of their wifi lol. So was able to update GTAV and get it started now that crossfire is going "properly", lol. Anyway, get it up and going and check the memory, and it shows "1864mb/2064mb"... my wife is using the cpu so I'll try to get a pick of it, later... just thought it was weird how the vram is showing 2gb in game.

Yeah, GTA V adds up the VRAM between the 2 cards, even though that's not how it'll be utilized. It'll still only effectively have 1GB.

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Got another question. Since it seems my graphics cards are now working better, I'm wondering if it could play Ark: Survival Evolved or Rust or something like that, well. Posting my DxDiag for 32 and 64 bit cuz it defaults to 32 first for some reason.

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43 minutes ago, GtfoDragon57 said:

Got another question. Since it seems my graphics cards are now working better, I'm wondering if it could play Ark: Survival Evolved or Rust or something like that, well. Posting my DxDiag for 32 and 64 bit cuz it defaults to 32 first for some reason.

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The minimum specs are for a 2GB card, so likely no. It might run but you'll be very VRAM bottlenecked and it will most likely stutter a lot.

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That s what I was afraid of. Debating on spending the mo ey on a new card since gtav works. If ha e to buy Ark and have it ps4 and love it. But trying to transfer over to pc fully.

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36 minutes ago, GtfoDragon57 said:

That s what I was afraid of. Debating on spending the mo ey on a new card since gtav works. If ha e to buy Ark and have it ps4 and love it. But trying to transfer over to pc fully.

It's worth investing in a decent 1080 card then.

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22 hours ago, jerubedo said:

It's worth investing in a decent 1080 card then.

Yeah when my taxes come in, gonna get the 580.

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Found a GeForce GTX 1060 with 6gb for right around 200. What ya think? 580 or 1060? Or something else. Lol

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