1st Time making new PC.

[AussieBuilder]

Hey guys,

 

My old gaming laptop's GPU fried so I'm making a new rig. I have researched a bit and have concluded the following parts im not sure if i need a network adapter or sound card, do they come with the parts i already buy?. Additionally, am i missing any parts or accessories like screws and bolts.? If you can give me some tips or recommendations on what i should invest more money into that would be great. ALL PRICES ARE IN AUD. 

 

RAM: Kingston HyperX FURY (HX424C15FW2K2/16) 16GB KIT (2x8GB) DDR4 2400 $149 

SSD: Already have one. 500gb crucial 2.5 inch.

Case: Cooler Master Masterbox Lite 3.1 Tempered Glass Micro ATX $59

PSU: Corsair TX550M Semi-Modular 80+ Gold 550W Power Supply $119

MotherBoard: MSI B360M Gaming Plus Intel 8th Gen Motherboard $129

GPU: Gigabyte GTX 1060 G1 Gaming 3GB Graphics Card  $289

CPU: Intel BX80684I58600K CORE i5-8600K 3.60GHz 9MB Cache LGA1151 $375

Fan: Deepcool GAMMAXX 400 Blue LED (DP-MCH4-GMX400) Universal CPU Cooler $35 

 

Total: $1156 AUD

 

 

 

[Labeled]

networking and sound are on the motherboard. So you don't need to worry about that.

[AussieBuilder]

Just now, Labeled said:

networking and sound are on the motherboard. So you don't need to worry about that.

thanks. also im now consider to get a gtx 1060 6gb compared to the 3gb. will it make much difference when playing games such as ARK: Survival Evolved, CS:GO, Overwatch and Apex Legends. 

[Labeled]

if the 1060 6gb is in your budget, you might be better off going with the 1660

 

[mariushm]

If you're not an Intel fan, you may get a more balanced computer by going with an AMD cpu and motherboard.

 

For example, you can get a Ryzen 5 2600 CPU with cooler included in the box for 259$ : https://www.msy.com.au/am4/21131-c-amd-yd2600bbafbox-ryzen-5-2600-39ghz-6-core-19mb-65w-am4-boxed-cpu-with-wraith-stealth-cooler.html

PC Part Picker has them in Australia starting from 250$ : https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/jLF48d/amd-ryzen-5-2600-34ghz-6-core-processor-yd2600bbafbox

 

This way, you'd save 375$ cpu + 35$ cooler - 259$ amd cpu = $151

The stock cooler is decent, lets the cpu go up to 3.9 Ghz and the CPU has 6 cores. If you find the cooler too noisy, you can always buy a 3rd party cooler later.

 

You'll need to change the motherboard and with AMD, it makes sense to pick memory that runs at slightly higher frequencies as AMD processors benefit from that.

 

So a decent motherboard would be this one at $123, Gigabyte B450M-DS3H : https://www.msy.com.au/amd-socket/21588-gigabyte-b450m-ds3h-amd4-b450-4xddr4-2x-pci-ex16-m2-usb31-atx-motherboard.html

PC Part Picker has this one starting from 118$ : https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/hpRzK8/gigabyte-b450m-ds3h-micro-atx-am4-motherboard-b450m-ds3h

 

There are cheaper models available, but this one has a good mix of features and has room for further upgrades and overclocking. Cheaper boards often lack heatsinks on VRM (the circuit which powers the processor), or have only 2 memory slots, have cheaper audio solution integrated and so on.

Not much savings here, only a few dollars.

If you want to save more money, something still good but with less overclocking potential would be the $103 ASRock B450M-HDV motherboard: https://www.msy.com.au/amd-socket/21928-asrock-b450m-hdv-amd-b450-2xddr4-1xpciex16-hdmi-dvi-d-sub-m2-microatx-motherboard.html

This would save you $25+ in the motherboard department.

 

So with AMD processors, you should go with memory sticks running at higher frequencies, like 3000 Mhz or better. Something that would work would be

165$ :    : Corsair Vengeance RGB CMR16GX4M2C3000C15 (Black) 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 3000 MHz Desktop Gaming Memory : https://www.msy.com.au/desktop-ram/19028-corsair-vengeance-rgb-cmr16gx4m2c3000c15-black-16gb-2x8gb-ddr4-3000-mhz-desktop-gaming-memory.html

169$ : Adata Technology (AX4U300038G16-DT41) XPG Spectrix D41 16GB (2X8GB) DDR4 3000MHz RGB Memory : https://www.msy.com.au/desktop-ram/21513-adata-technology-ax4u300038g16-dt41-xpg-spectrix-d41-16gb-2x8gb-ddr4-3000mhz-rgb-memory.html

 

PC Part Picker has these suggestions

 

2 of these at 79$ each: https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/TRF48d/corsair-vengeance-lpx-8gb-1-x-8gb-ddr4-3000-memory-cmk8gx4m1d3000c16

151$ Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory : https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/wZ22FT/corsair-vengeance-lpx-16gb-2-x-8gb-ddr4-3000-memory-cmk16gx4m2d3000c16

131$ Crucial - Ballistix Sport LT 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 : https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/64WfrH/crucial-ballistix-sport-lt-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3000-memory-bls2k8g4d30besbk

142$ : G.Skill - Aegis 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 : https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/TRF48d/corsair-vengeance-lpx-8gb-1-x-8gb-ddr4-3000-memory-cmk8gx4m1d3000c16

 

So you're paying less or a bit more for ram depending on brand you choose, but you saved $150+ on CPU and motherboard, depending on choices.

 

Now you can use those 150$ you saved to get a better video card, which would allow you to play at 1080 high/ultra or even 1440p - a GTX 1060 3GB would have issues with new games

 

296$+ : Asus - Radeon RX 580 4 GB Dual Video Card: https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/XYDzK8/asus-radeon-rx-580-4gb-dual-video-card-dual-rx580-o4g

299$+ : MSI - Radeon RX 580 8 GB ARMOR OC Video Card : https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/TTfmP6/msi-radeon-rx-580-8gb-armor-oc-video-card-rx-580-armor-8g-oc

^ better than GTX 1060, 8 GB VRAM is way better than 3 GB, more future proof

 

329$+ : Zotac - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6 GB Video Card : https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/Jw22FT/zotac-geforce-gtx-1060-6gb-6-gb-video-card-zt-p10620a-10m

329$+ : Asus - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6 GB Dual Video Card : https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/jZJkcf/asus-geforce-gtx-1060-6gb-dual-video-card-dual-gtx1060-o6g

 

 

[AussieBuilder]

7 minutes ago, mariushm said:

If you're not an Intel fan, you may get a more balanced computer by going with an AMD cpu and motherboard.

 

For example, you can get a Ryzen 5 2600 CPU with cooler included in the box for 259$ : https://www.msy.com.au/am4/21131-c-amd-yd2600bbafbox-ryzen-5-2600-39ghz-6-core-19mb-65w-am4-boxed-cpu-with-wraith-stealth-cooler.html

PC Part Picker has them in Australia starting from 250$ : https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/jLF48d/amd-ryzen-5-2600-34ghz-6-core-processor-yd2600bbafbox

 

This way, you'd save 375$ cpu + 35$ cooler - 259$ amd cpu = $151

The stock cooler is decent, lets the cpu go up to 3.9 Ghz and the CPU has 6 cores. If you find the cooler too noisy, you can always buy a 3rd party cooler later.

 

You'll need to change the motherboard and with AMD, it makes sense to pick memory that runs at slightly higher frequencies as AMD processors benefit from that.

 

So a decent motherboard would be this one at $123, Gigabyte B450M-DS3H : https://www.msy.com.au/amd-socket/21588-gigabyte-b450m-ds3h-amd4-b450-4xddr4-2x-pci-ex16-m2-usb31-atx-motherboard.html

PC Part Picker has this one starting from 118$ : https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/hpRzK8/gigabyte-b450m-ds3h-micro-atx-am4-motherboard-b450m-ds3h

 

There are cheaper models available, but this one has a good mix of features and has room for further upgrades and overclocking. Cheaper boards often lack heatsinks on VRM (the circuit which powers the processor), or have only 2 memory slots, have cheaper audio solution integrated and so on.

Not much savings here, only a few dollars.

If you want to save more money, something still good but with less overclocking potential would be the $103 ASRock B450M-HDV motherboard: https://www.msy.com.au/amd-socket/21928-asrock-b450m-hdv-amd-b450-2xddr4-1xpciex16-hdmi-dvi-d-sub-m2-microatx-motherboard.html

This would save you $25+ in the motherboard department.

 

So with AMD processors, you should go with memory sticks running at higher frequencies, like 3000 Mhz or better. Something that would work would be

165$ :    : Corsair Vengeance RGB CMR16GX4M2C3000C15 (Black) 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 3000 MHz Desktop Gaming Memory : https://www.msy.com.au/desktop-ram/19028-corsair-vengeance-rgb-cmr16gx4m2c3000c15-black-16gb-2x8gb-ddr4-3000-mhz-desktop-gaming-memory.html

169$ : Adata Technology (AX4U300038G16-DT41) XPG Spectrix D41 16GB (2X8GB) DDR4 3000MHz RGB Memory : https://www.msy.com.au/desktop-ram/21513-adata-technology-ax4u300038g16-dt41-xpg-spectrix-d41-16gb-2x8gb-ddr4-3000mhz-rgb-memory.html

 

PC Part Picker has these suggestions

 

2 of these at 79$ each: https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/TRF48d/corsair-vengeance-lpx-8gb-1-x-8gb-ddr4-3000-memory-cmk8gx4m1d3000c16

151$ Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory : https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/wZ22FT/corsair-vengeance-lpx-16gb-2-x-8gb-ddr4-3000-memory-cmk16gx4m2d3000c16

131$ Crucial - Ballistix Sport LT 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 : https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/64WfrH/crucial-ballistix-sport-lt-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3000-memory-bls2k8g4d30besbk

142$ : G.Skill - Aegis 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 : https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/TRF48d/corsair-vengeance-lpx-8gb-1-x-8gb-ddr4-3000-memory-cmk8gx4m1d3000c16

 

So you're paying less or a bit more for ram depending on brand you choose, but you saved $150+ on CPU and motherboard, depending on choices.

 

Now you can use those 150$ you saved to get a better video card, which would allow you to play at 1080 high/ultra or even 1440p - a GTX 1060 3GB would have issues with new games

 

296$+ : Asus - Radeon RX 580 4 GB Dual Video Card: https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/XYDzK8/asus-radeon-rx-580-4gb-dual-video-card-dual-rx580-o4g

299$+ : MSI - Radeon RX 580 8 GB ARMOR OC Video Card : https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/TTfmP6/msi-radeon-rx-580-8gb-armor-oc-video-card-rx-580-armor-8g-oc

^ better than GTX 1060, 8 GB VRAM is way better than 3 GB, more future proof

 

329$+ : Zotac - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6 GB Video Card : https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/Jw22FT/zotac-geforce-gtx-1060-6gb-6-gb-video-card-zt-p10620a-10m

329$+ : Asus - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6 GB Dual Video Card : https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/jZJkcf/asus-geforce-gtx-1060-6gb-dual-video-card-dual-gtx1060-o6g

 

 

thank you so much for your imput. i get the feeling that AMD makes short cuts and the quality isnt as good. also temperatures are really high in AMD systems as ive heard. 

[mariushm]

No, that's not true.

 

The Ryzen processors are quite good, they're recommended by lots of people.

The motherboards are not made by AMD, they're made by various manufacturers ... if you go with the cheapest models out there, then indeed you may get warmer motherboards simply because such cheaper motherboards will use less efficient, warmer components.

That's not the case with what I suggested to you.

 

As for the video cards, indeed, RX 580 cards consume more power compared to nVidia GTX 1060 cards but they'll also give you a bit more performance.

Right now, AMD video cards are not as efficient as nVidia cards for example, a RX 580 video card may be 10-20% more powerful compared to GTX 1060, but may consume 25-50% more power (let's say 175 watts compared to 125 watts).

So of course, as the video card consumes more power it will produce a bit more heat compared to an nVidia card, but they're designed with proper fans and a simple fan on your case is enough to move air around and keep your computer working perfectly fine.

But it would not be a correct statement to say "temperatures are really high", you can purchase AMD parts and not worry about temperatures, they'll work perfectly fine.

 

[AussieBuilder]

3 minutes ago, mariushm said:

No, that's not true.

 

The Ryzen processors are quite good, they're recommended by lots of people.

The motherboards are not made by AMD, they're made by various manufacturers ... if you go with the cheapest models out there, then indeed you may get warmer motherboards simply because such cheaper motherboards will use less efficient, warmer components.

That's not the case with what I suggested to you.

 

As for the video cards, indeed, RX 580 cards consume more power compared to nVidia GTX 1060 cards but they'll also give you a bit more performance.

Right now, AMD video cards are not as efficient as nVidia cards for example, a RX 580 video card may be 10-20% more powerful compared to GTX 1060, but may consume 25-50% more power (let's say 175 watts compared to 125 watts).

So of course, as the video card consumes more power it will produce a bit more heat compared to an nVidia card, but they're designed with proper fans and a simple fan on your case is enough to move air around and keep your computer working perfectly fine.

But it would not be a correct statement to say "temperatures are really high", you can purchase AMD parts and not worry about temperatures, they'll work perfectly fine.

 

ok. i still want to go with a intel / nvidia build though.