Semi custom loop

[GTX590]

So I decided that my next build found will use a semi custom loop. I plan on using a swiftech H220, and adding in the swiftech Komodo HD 7900 waterblock to the mix. I will replace the tubing with red tubing to keep my red/black theme going. My worry is, the GPU waterblock has 1/4inch fittings and the swiftech H220 uses all 3/8ID 5/8OD tubing and 3/8inch ID fittings. Any help on this?

[Shikarikato]

The Komodo HD 7900 Block doesn't come with fittings and regardless if it did you can just buy 3/8 inner ID or 5/8 OD fittings.

@Edit: I know where you went wrong. You saw " G 1/4 " and automatically assumed that it meant 1/4 inch fittings. #1 I don't think 1/4 inch tubing/fittings even exists in computer water cooling and G 1/4 is the thread size. This is a universal thread size all fittings are going to be G 1/4 today don't worry about it as long as all your inner and outer sizes match your tubing you should be good.

[GTX590]

The Komodo HD 7900 Block doesn't come with fittings and regardless if it did you can just buy 3/8 inner ID or 5/8 OD fittings.

@Edit: I know where you went wrong. You saw " G 1/4 " and automatically assumed that it meant 1/4 inch fittings. #1 I don't think 1/4 inch tubing/fittings even exists in computer water cooling and G 1/4 is the thread size. This is a universal thread size all fittings are going to be G 1/4 today don't worry about it as long as all your inner and outer sizes match your tubing you should be good.

That is exactly what I did. How can I find out what the fitting size is? I am 99% sure the H220 uses 3/8ID, but does that translate to 5/8inch OD? Also if I use 3/8inch fittings do I want 3/8inch tubing?

According to the site: Inlet & Outlet port thread standard:: 1/4" BSPP (G1/4)

Can I still buy 3/8inch fittings and it will still screw in?

[Shikarikato]

The Komodo HD 7900 Block doesn't come with fittings and regardless if it did you can just buy 3/8 inner ID or 5/8 OD fittings.

@Edit: I know where you went wrong. You saw " G 1/4 " and automatically assumed that it meant 1/4 inch fittings. #1 I don't think 1/4 inch tubing/fittings even exists in computer water cooling and G 1/4 is the thread size. This is a universal thread size all fittings are going to be G 1/4 today don't worry about it as long as all your inner and outer sizes match your tubing you should be good.

The H220 uses 3/8 ID and 5/8 OD. I'm not exactly sure if it " translates " like that but all 3/8 ID tubing I've seen is 5/8 OD. Just make sure your fittings are 3/8 ID and 5/8 OD

http://www.frozencpu.com/cat/l3/g30/c409/s1608/list/p1/Liquid_Cooling-Fittings-Compression-38_x_58_Compression-Page1.html

or if its barbs just make sure its 3/8 ID and put something on the outside like clamps that fit around (not entirely sure where to find those) or just zip ties and stuff of that sort.

[GTX590]

The Komodo HD 7900 Block doesn't come with fittings and regardless if it did you can just buy 3/8 inner ID or 5/8 OD fittings.

@Edit: I know where you went wrong. You saw " G 1/4 " and automatically assumed that it meant 1/4 inch fittings. #1 I don't think 1/4 inch tubing/fittings even exists in computer water cooling and G 1/4 is the thread size. This is a universal thread size all fittings are going to be G 1/4 today don't worry about it as long as all your inner and outer sizes match your tubing you should be good.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/S8Xw

This is my build, clearly I will be going with an I7-4770K and a MATX Z87 motherboard and a corsair 350D case, but the rest is pretty accurate. I like the compression fittings better @ 3/8ID/5/8OD

[Shikarikato]

The Komodo HD 7900 Block doesn't come with fittings and regardless if it did you can just buy 3/8 inner ID or 5/8 OD fittings.

@Edit: I know where you went wrong. You saw " G 1/4 " and automatically assumed that it meant 1/4 inch fittings. #1 I don't think 1/4 inch tubing/fittings even exists in computer water cooling and G 1/4 is the thread size. This is a universal thread size all fittings are going to be G 1/4 today don't worry about it as long as all your inner and outer sizes match your tubing you should be good.

It looks pretty good but you should look over at the silver stone power supplies if you're planning to get a small form factor build those short cables will be really handy later on.

[GTX590]

The Komodo HD 7900 Block doesn't come with fittings and regardless if it did you can just buy 3/8 inner ID or 5/8 OD fittings.

@Edit: I know where you went wrong. You saw " G 1/4 " and automatically assumed that it meant 1/4 inch fittings. #1 I don't think 1/4 inch tubing/fittings even exists in computer water cooling and G 1/4 is the thread size. This is a universal thread size all fittings are going to be G 1/4 today don't worry about it as long as all your inner and outer sizes match your tubing you should be good.

The size of the case is really a mid tower, 17x8x17, so I wouldn't consider it small form factor. I have seen some silverstone PSU's I like, but only if I can get red sleeved cables for them!

[Shikarikato]

The Komodo HD 7900 Block doesn't come with fittings and regardless if it did you can just buy 3/8 inner ID or 5/8 OD fittings.

@Edit: I know where you went wrong. You saw " G 1/4 " and automatically assumed that it meant 1/4 inch fittings. #1 I don't think 1/4 inch tubing/fittings even exists in computer water cooling and G 1/4 is the thread size. This is a universal thread size all fittings are going to be G 1/4 today don't worry about it as long as all your inner and outer sizes match your tubing you should be good.

Oh I wasn't entirely sure of the size of the 350D I was imagining something in the range of a bitfenix prodigy but yeah I understand I'm too lazy to sleeve cables myself so I rather buy corsair's individually sleeved cables.

[GTX590]

I am trying to accomplish 2 things here. Decent cooling, at least the quality of like an evo 212 and my vapor-x GPU, but less noise, and less overall heat generated into my room. Would you say my desires should be fulfilled with this basic setup? It seems going with a custom loop is going to be more pricey than i'd like. Where as the swiftech is 140, GPU block is 155, tubes and fittings are 40. Where a decent pump that isn't load will run 150+, let alone the rads, fittings, res etc.

[GTX590]

A friend of mine is recommending me to avoid modding an all in one and go with a full setup. Due to cost I cannot do this, but how about a Swiftech MCR220 Quiet rad/res and a Swiftech Apogee Drive II, with 3/8 compression fittings instead? I think it will achieve what I want. It is a little more costly than i'd like tho, being 400 bucks including the 150 dollar GPU block.

[Oxide]

The loop with only a 240 rad will definitely NOT be quiet when cooling both the CPU and HD7900. Heat energy cannot be destroyed, only moved around so there will be almost the same amount of heat in your room with or without watercooling. The pump on the waterblock is fine as it is a DDC pump and will work fine on lower RPMs. You will have to definitely grab an extra radiator to keep the system quiet (at least another 240) and a reservoir if you dont like the H220's reservoir (the fill port is hard to reach on some cases).

[GTX590]

A Friend recommended me this, add in red tubing and it's 200 bucks and refilling it should be easy: http://www.frozencpu.com/products/16893/ex-wat-221/XSPC_Raystorm_750_RX240_Extreme_Universal_CPU_Wate r_Cooling_Kit_New_Rev_4_Pump_Included_w_Free_Dead-Water.html?id=U4cUmLAQ

[airdeano]

I am trying to accomplish 2 things here. Decent cooling' date=' at least the quality of like an evo 212 and my vapor-x GPU, but less noise, and less [b']overall heat generated into my room.

you know you'll have the same if not more heat, right? water-cooling does not reduce exhaust heat.

if anything, more will be present because of overclocking and that's usually why one water-cools.

what case are you using for this rig?

airdeano

[Shikarikato]

I am trying to accomplish 2 things here. Decent cooling' date=' at least the quality of like an evo 212 and my vapor-x GPU, but less noise, and less [b']overall heat generated into my room.

you know you'll have the same if not more heat, right? water-cooling does not reduce exhaust heat.

if anything, more will be present because of overclocking and that's usually why one water-cools.

what case are you using for this rig?

airdeano

Hes planning to use the 350D but that's hard to know if you can fit a 240 in the top and a 240 in the front.

[GTX590]

I am trying to accomplish 2 things here. Decent cooling' date=' at least the quality of like an evo 212 and my vapor-x GPU, but less noise, and less [b']overall heat generated into my room.

you know you'll have the same if not more heat, right? water-cooling does not reduce exhaust heat.

if anything, more will be present because of overclocking and that's usually why one water-cools.

what case are you using for this rig?

airdeano

350D supports top and front mounted 240 rads. It should, if I use a full custom loop expel less heat into my room because the actual temps should be far lower. My HD 7950 runs about 60-70*C OC'ed in crysis 3 and my I7-2600K hits around 70*C with an evo 212. Both are oc'ed.

[Shikarikato]

I am trying to accomplish 2 things here. Decent cooling' date=' at least the quality of like an evo 212 and my vapor-x GPU, but less noise, and less [b']overall heat generated into my room.

you know you'll have the same if not more heat, right? water-cooling does not reduce exhaust heat.

if anything, more will be present because of overclocking and that's usually why one water-cools.

what case are you using for this rig?

airdeano

This is semi-wrong, the temperatures are lower because the pure copper + water just conducts it much better, the temperature production will be the same most likely more because you'll probably clock your 2600K even higher and it allows for your 7950 to be clocked higher but water and radiators are a very, very good way to help dissipate the heat. It also depends on how many rads you're going to run. If you're going to run 360mm worth of rads but only have cpu cooling it will exhaust much cooler air. Also with more radiator coverage you also get lower rpms on fans making your rig quieter.

[Guest]

If you're talking about the new 350D from Corsair, I don't quite see how you're going to fit everything into that case. You've got drives and stuff to accomodate of which I very much doubt there is room behind the tray to mount them as you're going to take out the front drive cage to fit a rad.

[GTX590]

If you're talking about the new 350D from Corsair, I don't quite see how you're going to fit everything into that case. You've got drives and stuff to accomodate of which I very much doubt there is room behind the tray to mount them as you're going to take out the front drive cage to fit a rad.

DVD drives are outdated sorry... I am also running a single SSD which has a housing in the bottom or in one of the 2 3.5inch pays. Behind the motherboard tray looks to be enough room for even a 24pin from what I've read.

[airdeano]

.... if I use a full custom loop expel less heat into my room because the actual temps should be far lower. My HD 7950 runs about 60-70*C OC'ed in crysis 3 and my I7-2600K hits around 70*C with an evo 212. Both are oc'ed.

I could see that thinking could be made to be right, but thermal dynamics say, nope.

what you are seeing is the heat generated is carried from the device. showing lower

temperatures, but in fact the heat exchanger is ridding the "excess" heat, thus the

exhaust is as warm or warmer than the old values. the watts of heat do not change..

the exhaust is still as warm and it'll still get pumped into the room..

airdeano

[Shikarikato]

.... if I use a full custom loop expel less heat into my room because the actual temps should be far lower. My HD 7950 runs about 60-70*C OC'ed in crysis 3 and my I7-2600K hits around 70*C with an evo 212. Both are oc'ed.

I could see that thinking could be made to be right, but thermal dynamics say, nope.

what you are seeing is the heat generated is carried from the device. showing lower

temperatures, but in fact the heat exchanger is ridding the "excess" heat, thus the

exhaust is as warm or warmer than the old values. the watts of heat do not change..

the exhaust is still as warm and it'll still get pumped into the room..

airdeano

I think my previous post gives a good explanation of a theory of how it works, I don't actually have it to test but I'd assume it would work out that way.