Need help amd or ryzen

[Vinceavisado]

Hey guys need help again

Should i go for the ryzen 3 2200g or intel3 or 5 i dont know what gen i can afford though. Looking for speed and also in a budget price can also buy 2nd hand intel because there are more intel 2nd hands than ryzen around

Price of Ryzen 3 2200g here is around 100$ or 5k ph pesos
My budget is around 10k for the mobo proc and 3k for the ram sticks around 200$ and 70$
 

Ill pair it with my 
Gtx1050ti
Corsair vs550

 

Someone offered me A intel i5 7th gen and a mother board H110M-V for 200$

 

[LukeSavenije]

this is the closest I got...

 

I would take the 2200g personally, as a "7th gen I5" can be everywhere between a 7400 and a 7600k

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD - Ryzen 3 2200G 3.5 GHz Quad-Core Processor	$94.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard	ASRock - B450 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard	$64.99 @ Newegg
Memory	Team - Vulcan 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory	$89.99 @ Newegg
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$264.97
	Mail-in rebates	-$15.00
	Total	$249.97
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-01-20 07:25 EST-0500

 

[Vinceavisado]

2 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

this is the closest I got...

 

I would take the 2200g personally, as a "7th gen I5" can be everywhere between a 7400 and a 7600k

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD - Ryzen 3 2200G 3.5 GHz Quad-Core Processor	$94.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard	ASRock - B450 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard	$64.99 @ Newegg
Memory	Team - Vulcan 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory	$89.99 @ Newegg
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$264.97
	Mail-in rebates	-$15.00
	Total	$249.97
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-01-20 07:25 EST-0500

 

Its a Intel® Core™ i5-7400 Processor 6M Cache. 

Which is faster? And better for gaming

 

Does newegg ship to the philippines? 

 

[LukeSavenije]

Just now, Vinceavisado said:

Its a Intel® Core™ i5-7400 Processor 6M Cache. 

Which is faster? And better for gaming

https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i5-7400-vs-AMD-Ryzen-3-2200G/3886vsm441832

as you can see here, the 2200g is a bit faster, and can overclock on a b or x series motherboard

[Vinceavisado]

8 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i5-7400-vs-AMD-Ryzen-3-2200G/3886vsm441832

as you can see here, the 2200g is a bit faster, and can overclock on a b or x series motherboard

Only problem for me is that how they handle the ram. I can only buy 1 stick right now of 8gb 2666mhz which cpu can best make use of that

[LukeSavenije]

Just now, Vinceavisado said:

Only problem for me is that how they handle the ram. I can only buy 1 stick right now of 8gb 2666mhz which cpu can best make use of that

amd prefers more bandwith, but you can overclock ram

 

would 2x4 be a problem for you?

[Vinceavisado]

2 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

amd prefers more bandwith, but you can overclock ram

 

would 2x4 be a problem for you?

My plan is that i was going to buy 1x8gb now and buy another one to make use of the dual channel mode because they say 16gb is the sweetspot 

[LukeSavenije]

2 minutes ago, Vinceavisado said:

My plan is that i was going to buy 1x8gb now and buy another one to make use of the dual channel mode because they say 16gb is the sweetspot 

it is, but if you get a mobo with 4 slots, you can directly get dual channel, as that is ideal on ryzen, but it isn't a big problem. I would get a higher speed ram, or not being afraid to overclock it to at least 2800 mhz

[Vinceavisado]

2 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

it is, but if you get a mobo with 4 slots, you can directly get dual channel, as that is ideal on ryzen, but it isn't a big problem. I would get a higher speed ram, or not being afraid to overclock it to at least 2800 mhz

Im getting the gigabyte DS3H B450 motherboard.. I want to get dual channel but 2 x 8gb is way out of budget right now. Ill try looking for 2 x 4 gb for now and upgrading to 2x 8gb in the future

[LukeSavenije]

Just now, Vinceavisado said:

Im getting the gigabyte DS3H B450 motherboard.. I want to get dual channel but 2 x 8gb is way out of budget right now. Ill try looking for 2 x 4 gb for now and upgrading to 2x 8gb in the future

I wouldn't use a business board for gaming...

 

why not a asrock pro4?

[Vinceavisado]

8 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

I wouldn't use a business board for gaming...

 

why not a asrock pro4?

They arent available here these are the motherboards that are currently available here at good prices

 

Discount Cash Price : GIGABYTE B450 AORUS PRO WI-FI AC + BLUETOOH 4.2 AM4 MOTHERBOARD - 7295.00
Discount Cash Price : GIGABYTE B450M DS3H AM4 MOTHERBOARD - 4495.00
Discount Cash Price : ASUS TUF B450M-PLUS GAMING AM4 MOTHERBOARD - 6495.00
Discount Cash Price : GIGABYTE B450 AORUS M AM4 MOTHERBOARD - 5795.00
Discount Cash Price : GIGABYTE B450I AORUS PRO WIFI AC + BLUETOOTH 5.0 MINI-ITX AM4 MOTHERBOARD - 6795.00
Discount Cash Price : ASUS PRIME B450M-A AM4 MOTHERBOARD - 5295.00

[Stormseeker9]

Dont they sell any MSI products in your country, or are they all at higher prices? 

 

I have to agree its better to have 2 sticks from the start as ryzen prefers dual channel above single. Also get the highest clocked ram you can get in your budget as, again, good for ryzen

[LukeSavenije]

Just now, Vinceavisado said:

They arent available here these are the motherboards that are currently available here at good prices

 

Discount Cash Price : GIGABYTE B450 AORUS PRO WI-FI AC + BLUETOOH 4.2 AM4 MOTHERBOARD - 7295.00
Discount Cash Price : GIGABYTE B450M DS3H AM4 MOTHERBOARD - 4495.00
Discount Cash Price : ASUS TUF B450M-PLUS GAMING AM4 MOTHERBOARD - 6495.00
Discount Cash Price : GIGABYTE B450 AORUS M AM4 MOTHERBOARD - 5795.00
Discount Cash Price : GIGABYTE B450I AORUS PRO WIFI AC + BLUETOOTH 5.0 MINI-ITX AM4 MOTHERBOARD - 6795.00
Discount Cash Price : ASUS PRIME B450M-A AM4 MOTHERBOARD - 5295.00

Discount Cash Price : GIGABYTE B450 AORUS PRO WI-FI AC + BLUETOOH 4.2 AM4 MOTHERBOARD - 7295.00
Discount Cash Price : ASUS TUF B450M-PLUS GAMING AM4 MOTHERBOARD - 6495.00
Discount Cash Price : GIGABYTE B450 AORUS M AM4 MOTHERBOARD - 5795.00
Discount Cash Price : GIGABYTE B450I AORUS PRO WIFI AC + BLUETOOTH 5.0 MINI-ITX AM4 MOTHERBOARD - 6795.00
Discount Cash Price : ASUS PRIME B450M-A AM4 MOTHERBOARD - 5295.00

 

my choises would be to buy that aorus m, because those prices on the aorus pro seem a bit too high to me (hard to say tho as you didn't list a currency, but still)

that prime and tuf board are a waste of money, and the aorus m at least has a vrm shield.

 

isn't there anything from msi or asrock availible over there?

[Vinceavisado]

Just now, Stormseeker9 said:

Dont they sell any MSI products in your country, or are they all at higher prices? 

 

I have to agree its better to have 2 sticks from the start as ryzen prefers dual channel above single. Also get the highest clocked ram you can get in your budget as, again, good for ryzen

There are a few shops here that are not in the mall and they are all overpriced. Much more in the mall. The place where i got those prices are the cheapest

[Vinceavisado]

1 minute ago, LukeSavenije said:

Discount Cash Price : GIGABYTE B450 AORUS PRO WI-FI AC + BLUETOOH 4.2 AM4 MOTHERBOARD - 7295.00
Discount Cash Price : ASUS TUF B450M-PLUS GAMING AM4 MOTHERBOARD - 6495.00
Discount Cash Price : GIGABYTE B450 AORUS M AM4 MOTHERBOARD - 5795.00
Discount Cash Price : GIGABYTE B450I AORUS PRO WIFI AC + BLUETOOTH 5.0 MINI-ITX AM4 MOTHERBOARD - 6795.00
Discount Cash Price : ASUS PRIME B450M-A AM4 MOTHERBOARD - 5295.00

 

my choises would be to buy that aorus m, because those prices on the aorus pro seem a bit too high to me (hard to say tho as you didn't list a currency, but still)

that prime and tuf board are a waste of money, and the aorus m at least has a vrm shield.

 

isn't there anything from msi or asrock availible over there?

ab350 asrock pro 4 gaming motherboard found this 2nd hand.. You can just convert them to dollars. 1 dollar = 52 pesos. 

[Vinceavisado]

Can u guys give me a list of your best suggested (cheap) motherboards ill give them a quick search. 

[LukeSavenije]

3 minutes ago, Vinceavisado said:

Can u guys give me a list of your best suggested (cheap) motherboards ill give them a quick search. 

b450 pro4

b450m pro4

b450 tomahawk

b450m bazooka

b450 bazooka plus

b450 mortar

b450 fatal1ty

[Vinceavisado]

3 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

b450 pro4

b450m pro4

b450 tomahawk

b450m bazooka

b450 bazooka plus

b450 mortar

b450 fatal1ty

Ill give it a quick search

[Vinceavisado]

22 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

b450 pro4

b450m pro4

b450 tomahawk

b450m bazooka

b450 bazooka plus

b450 mortar

b450 fatal1ty

Cant seem to find them locally, can only. Get them via shipping but the problem in ph is that shipping things that cost that much is scary because there are tons of scams and the procedure to return them are too long

[Vinceavisado]

32 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

b450 pro4

b450m pro4

b450 tomahawk

b450m bazooka

b450 bazooka plus

b450 mortar

b450 fatal1ty

I found the B450-M PROM2 and MSI B450M Gaming Plus both are within budget and the MSI B450M Mortar is 1000php more expensive around 20$

[LukeSavenije]

4 minutes ago, Vinceavisado said:

I found the B450-M PROM2 and MSI B450M Gaming Plus both are within budget and the MSI B450M Mortar is 1000php more expensive around 20$

the gaming plus is best out of those 2, but the mortar might just be worth that extra 20 bucks imo

[Vinceavisado]

45 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

the gaming plus is best out of those 2, but the mortar might just be worth that extra 20 bucks imo

I can get the mortar but id have to skimp off on the ram and possibly get some good ram in the future

[Vinceavisado]

49 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

the gaming plus is best out of those 2, but the mortar might just be worth that extra 20 bucks imo

I might probably get 2 single 2666 sticks is it going to work. In dual. Channel? 

[LukeSavenije]

1 minute ago, Vinceavisado said:

I might probably get 2 single 2666 sticks is it going to work. In dual. Channel? 

it does if you get the same ones. i would try to overclock it tho

[Vinceavisado]

6 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

it does if you get the same ones. i would try to overclock it tho

As long as its the same brand and speed right? It will. Work on dual channel? Thnx idk if i can i only have a corsaie vs550