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Hello together,

 

I am here to get an okay from you experienced builders for my new build. I plan on building this around February when I have all the parts together.

 

Budget & Location

Budget is basically not available as I am going to finance this with a vendor here in Germany. I plan on just upgrading from an ancient platform, though.

One important thing is that I have to buy from this one specific vendor here in Germany. It is called Otto and lets me finance this all in a monthly sum. I have to get the CPU from somewhere else, though. Of course they don't list such subsidiary objects, like CPUs, for computers.

 

OLD SYSTEM

  • CPU: Intel Core2 Quad Q9550 @2,83 GHz (according to Everest: Intel Pentium III Xeon, 2833GHz)
  • RAM: NoName 4GB
  • Graphics: NVIDIA GTX 670 (reference)
  • MoBo: probably a proprietary OEM thingy from Acer
  • PSU: NoName 400W
  • Storage: 2x WD Blue 640GB & 1x Samsung 860 Evo 250GB

 

New System

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-9600K 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor  (€266.90 @ Mindfactory)
CPU Cooler: Thermaltake - Floe Riing RGB 280 TT Premium Edition 63.19 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  (€164.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - Z390 AORUS PRO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  (€188.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  (€160.71 @ Mindfactory)
Storage: Samsung - 860 Evo 250 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (Purchased For €0.00)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 640 GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (Purchased For €0.00)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 640 GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (Purchased For €0.00)
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 670 2 GB Video Card  (Purchased For €0.00)
Case: be quiet! - SILENT BASE 601 | WINDOW SILVER ATX Mid Tower Case  (€118.17 @ Mindfactory)
Power Supply: Corsair - 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  (€129.84 @ Mindfactory)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit  (€10.00)
Total: €1039.51
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-01-06 02:53 CET+0100

 

  • I plan on migrating the SSD from the old system, as well as the HDDs for now, so I took them out of this PCPP list.
  • The video Card is still good and doesn't need to be changed, so I, too, just scrapped it from this list.
  • The OS is pretty simple, I can get a copy from an online vendor for next to nothing.

 

  1. Are there any problems with Windows 10 Home Edition, when I migrate the Drives into a new system? (I heard Microsoft acts as you haven't activated correctly)
  2. Are the parts generally OK or did I miss any big problems? (mind you, I do know, that the PSU is too much for this setup)
  3. Any optimizations in mind? 
  4. Do tell me, whether or not there are any specific problems with the selected parts.
  5. Did I leave anything open?

 

Aim

I want to have this system as a potent gaming machine, that can be upgraded later on. I might do some light photo editing or even video editing, but never more than a holiday trip or something.

Streaming content from the machine is not wanted as of right now.

 

Monitors

I plan on using one 1920x1080 monitor on it, but I might upgrade the graphics card and monitor later on.

 

Peripherals

No, thank you.

 

Why are you upgrading?

Because my current system is ancient and not capable of gaming AAA titles.

 

 

Kind Regards

AppiX

 

PS: thanks to @Windspeed36 for the thread recommendation

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19 minutes ago, MrAppendixX said:

CPU: Intel - Core i5-9600K 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor  (€266.90 @ Mindfactory)

I dont really like intel mid tier i5s right now to me you get similar performance out of ryzen at significantly lower price point

20 minutes ago, MrAppendixX said:

Motherboard: Gigabyte - Z390 AORUS PRO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  (€188.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)

Looks pretty extra for the 9600k if thats what you choose to do and there will be significant savings here going ryzen instead

 

you haven't listed a video card?

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
Type Item Price
CPU Intel - Core i7-8700 3.2 GHz 6-Core Processor €270.38 @ Amazon Deutschland
CPU Cooler ARCTIC - Freezer 33 Plus CPU Cooler €25.99 @ Amazon Deutschland
Motherboard ASRock - Z370 Pro4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard €102.99 @ Amazon Deutschland
Memory Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory €109.90 @ Amazon Deutschland
Storage Samsung - 860 Evo 250 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive Purchased For €0.00
Storage Western Digital - Caviar Blue 640 GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive Purchased For €0.00
Storage Western Digital - Caviar Blue 640 GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive Purchased For €0.00
Video Card Zotac - GeForce GTX 670 2 GB Video Card Purchased For €0.00
Case be quiet! - Pure Base 600 (Black/Silver) ATX Mid Tower Case €70.99 @ Amazon Deutschland
Power Supply SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply €91.99 @ Amazon Deutschland
Operating System Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit €10.00
Case Fan Fractal Design - GP12-WT 52.3 CFM 120mm Fan €9.68 @ Amazon Deutschland
Case Fan Fractal Design - GP12-WT 52.3 CFM 120mm Fan €9.68 @ Amazon Deutschland
Case Fan Fractal Design - GP12-WT 52.3 CFM 120mm Fan €9.68 @ Amazon Deutschland
Case Fan Fractal Design - GP12-WT 52.3 CFM 120mm Fan €9.68 @ Amazon Deutschland
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total €720.96
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-01-06 03:47 CET+0100  

You can look up benchmarks, 8700 and 9600k don't beat each other on average but you save a lot of money by not needing a motherboard and cooler that's nearly as expensive.

 

Your PSU choice is overpriced, replaced it here.

 

Since my point is to get similar performance for much less, I used a cheap Z370 board with RGB-less 3000MHz 2x8GB memory. Also bought case fans with no regards to colour scheme. Because it looks much less appealing inside, I used a case without transparent sides so you don't have to look into it.

 

My suggestion on fan layout is the stock 140mm fan that comes with the case to be at the back as exhaust, the stock 120mm exhaust fan and one of the Fractal fans on the top as intake or exhaust (your choice), and the rest of the fans at the front as intake. Having 140mm fan on the front like the case does at stock is stupid since from reviewers (Kitguru is what I looked from) you either put 1 140mm fan or 3 120mm fans on the front, so single 140mm there is a bad idea.

 

@Swes he's reusing the reference GTX 670

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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15 hours ago, Swes said:

I dont really like intel mid tier i5s right now to me you get similar performance out of ryzen at significantly lower price point

Looks pretty extra for the 9600k if thats what you choose to do and there will be significant savings here going ryzen instead

 

you haven't listed a video card?

The video card is the reference 670 I plan to migrate from the old system.

I get where you are coming from with the Ryzen being cheaper and very good, but I've always had some problems with AMD before. Nothing serious, always minor bugs in the software or infuriating bluescreens that could be traced back to some form of AMD software or driver fault. I am not yet ready to trust them again and don't want to hassle too much with it.

But thank you for your suggestion.

Do you think small problems like drivers misbehaving or malfunctioning software has been reworked now with Ryzen? Did they better themselves? Any other quality bump in the support they did or something? Because I haven't paid them much attention over the years.

14 hours ago, Jurrunio said:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
Type Item Price
CPU Intel - Core i7-8700 3.2 GHz 6-Core Processor €270.38 @ Amazon Deutschland
CPU Cooler ARCTIC - Freezer 33 Plus CPU Cooler €25.99 @ Amazon Deutschland
Motherboard ASRock - Z370 Pro4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard €102.99 @ Amazon Deutschland
Memory Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory €109.90 @ Amazon Deutschland
Storage Samsung - 860 Evo 250 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive Purchased For €0.00
Storage Western Digital - Caviar Blue 640 GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive Purchased For €0.00
Storage Western Digital - Caviar Blue 640 GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive Purchased For €0.00
Video Card Zotac - GeForce GTX 670 2 GB Video Card Purchased For €0.00
Case be quiet! - Pure Base 600 (Black/Silver) ATX Mid Tower Case €70.99 @ Amazon Deutschland
Power Supply SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply €91.99 @ Amazon Deutschland
Operating System Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit €10.00
Case Fan Fractal Design - GP12-WT 52.3 CFM 120mm Fan €9.68 @ Amazon Deutschland
Case Fan Fractal Design - GP12-WT 52.3 CFM 120mm Fan €9.68 @ Amazon Deutschland
Case Fan Fractal Design - GP12-WT 52.3 CFM 120mm Fan €9.68 @ Amazon Deutschland
Case Fan Fractal Design - GP12-WT 52.3 CFM 120mm Fan €9.68 @ Amazon Deutschland
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total €720.96
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-01-06 03:47 CET+0100  

You can look up benchmarks, 8700 and 9600k don't beat each other on average but you save a lot of money by not needing a motherboard and cooler that's nearly as expensive.

 

Your PSU choice is overpriced, replaced it here.

 

Since my point is to get similar performance for much less, I used a cheap Z370 board with RGB-less 3000MHz 2x8GB memory. Also bought case fans with no regards to colour scheme. Because it looks much less appealing inside, I used a case without transparent sides so you don't have to look into it.

 

My suggestion on fan layout is the stock 140mm fan that comes with the case to be at the back as exhaust, the stock 120mm exhaust fan and one of the Fractal fans on the top as intake or exhaust (your choice), and the rest of the fans at the front as intake. Having 140mm fan on the front like the case does at stock is stupid since from reviewers (Kitguru is what I looked from) you either put 1 140mm fan or 3 120mm fans on the front, so single 140mm there is a bad idea.

 

@Swes he's reusing the reference GTX 670

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Unfortunately, the vendor doesn't list Seasonic at all in his PSU brands list. I have found this replacement, though: be quiet! Pure Power 10 for 87,99€ (600W, 80+ silver)

The MoBo you suggested is unfortunately not available as well, therefore, how about the Gigabyte Z370 D3 for 109,35€?

Is there a reason why you don't suggest the K skew processor? Can I upgrade to 9th gen i7 later on?

Why Z370 and not Z390? Is it that bad considering the price?

Thank you for your suggestion, though.

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2 hours ago, MrAppendixX said:

The MoBo you suggested is unfortunately not available as well, therefore, how about the Gigabyte Z370 D3 for 109,35€?

it's good enough

 

2 hours ago, MrAppendixX said:

Is there a reason why you don't suggest the K skew processor?

cost. 8700k on PCPP cost like 400 Euros, while 8700 cost 270. Your prices might differ though.

 

2 hours ago, MrAppendixX said:

Why Z370 and not Z390? Is it that bad considering the price?

What price? I only use Z chipset here to overclock the memory since the CPU's locked anyway.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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