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  1. Hi all! I noticed unusual spikes (thus throttling) in CPU temperature during gaming, which is not typical of my experience. Despite my laptop having effective cooling, I am accustomed to a more consistent temperature graph. Is it possible that the thermal paste needs replacement, given that my laptop is around a year old and the fans are free of dust? Please refer to the two graphs and the laptop's PDF specifications below; I own the 3060 version. Lenovo_Legion_5_Pro_16ITH6H_Spec.pdf
  2. I got a ZBook Fury 16 G9 with an i7-12800HX which I've been using daily for the past 2 months. It performs well and I've been quite happy with it. Running Cinebench R23 on it when I first got it 2 months ago, I was happy to see that the CPU would not get hot enough to throttle, staying at a maximum 89C. I would get scores in the 16k range. Recently however it has mysteriously started exceeding that temp and routinely hitting 96-100C, with throttling reducing performance. Now I'm seeing scores in the 14k range. I haven't made any software or hardware changes. The fans pretty much are as clean as they were when I got it. In the mean time, I've had to resort to using ThrottleStop to set lower power limits in order to keep temps down, since the CPU cannot be undervolted. Anyone have any ideas about what might be going on? Any help is appreciated!
  3. Noticed some very weird behavior of my laptop cpu after a clean install of windows. While benchmarking the cpu usage refuses to stabilize and power usage fluctuates between 12 and 17 watts even though the system has a 15w power limit. Intel xtu also shows the cpu power limit throttling while well below the 15 watts target. does anyone have a clue what could be the cause? Temperatures never exceeded 75°c during testing. lowering the power target yields the same fluctuating power and cpu usage. before the clean windows install it would be rock steady at 100% and 15 watts update: Increasing logging speed in intel xtu makes this even weirder. the cpu drops to 10watts for brief moments, only to then spike to 20 watts for a third of a second or so and then stay stable at 15 watts for a few seconds only to drow to 10 watts again. hwinfo shows the same tdp fluctuations update 2: this behavior only happens when the laptop is plugged in. When it is not plugged in it runs perfectly stable
  4. Hello! Recently I discovered an issue with my and some other people HP gaming laptops, including Omen and Victus lineups. I have an HP OMEN 16-b1000, with i5-12500H and RTX 3060. Hardware side: - HP laptops lack cooling solutions and thermal interfaces, so they are thermally restricted. - Many recent HP laptops have special separate board with IR thermal sensor, which pointed upwards, to the keyboard. Here is the official HP guide with covers it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZebpxQZP4JI&t=839 at 13:59. - Overall CPU and GPU temps are still ok, they are not thermal throttling. Software side: - HP laptops monitor case temp and dynamically lowering PL1 value for CPUs. Without any software running, default power limit in the long run for the i5-12500H (and most Alder Lake-H CPUs) is 25 watts, despite it being a 45-watt spec CPU. AMD ones are similar, but they handle these better, with better power efficiency. This is VERY low. CPU performance is like 50% of the estimated. - HP gaming laptops are designed to work with always running Omen Gaming Hub (OGH) software, which is very slow, bloated, and still gives a low number of settings and customizations. - Even with Performance mode set in OGH, with fans running 100%, CPU PL1 still drops to 35 watts. Again, not even 45 watts. What I tried and discovered: - I did a good cooling system maintenance, replaced thermal paste with Honeywell PTM7950. CPU and GPU temps are much better than stock, but this case throttling issue is still here. - Local service center by the warranty replaced my 230 watts PSU to another one, and issue is still here. - I tried to disconnect the IR board ribbon cable, and the case throttling stopped! So, it's confirmed. But overall laptop always was running very hot, CPU always at 97c, fans not maxed out. It's not designed this, and I'm afraid of losing the warranty. - ThrottleStop with sketchy settings and OGH running in the background is able to override this, but it's a third-party tool, so cannot be considered as a reliable factory solution. - This is an example of how CPU performance lowers, and how much it affects: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgX8mxD0tTE - Multiple people in the HP Omen official Discord could confirm the same issue. The recent case I met is Victus with Ryzen CPU, so it's correlated to HP do its laptops. - HP support doesn't provide any solution. I ask you to help me draw attention to this issue, as I find it is pretty disappointing and even close to scam, to get an expensive laptop with hidden CPU throttling, with lower-than-expected CPU performance from a multi-million-dollar US-based company.
  5. Since CPU current is a calculated value (often there aren't any dedicated sensors especially in a Laptop [btw i7-1065g7]) from the total power usage of the CPU, if I were to change that calculated power value (IMON slope) to a lower value (why? long story related to embedded controller enforced power throttling) i.e. 60 [60% of actual calculated power], would lowering PS Current Threshold1 to a lower value like 12 Amps via 20 Amps (default PSCT1) * 0.6 (same modifier as IMON slope) = 12 Amps be a viable/safe thing to try? I'm assuming the final phase-line (PSCT1) isn't being activated due to IMON slope sending out lower power values than actual---causing over-current throttling or is this not the full picture? If everything's good, would I need to apply this ratio to any other power related calculations (Ohms law stuff V=IR; P=VI) to stop current throttling? ------- And yes I can't disable or change the current throttle as it is Embedded Controller enforced, so I'm trying to find workarounds like how people use IMON slope to bypass EC power throttling. So far I have found none and am wondering if the IMON slope change wasn't actually a perfect solution to non-thermal-based throttling, possibly impacting other beneficial power calculations like PS Current Threshold1, which from my limited research, increases efficiency at higher currents by activating additional phase-lines. Not having one of the lines activate due to IMON slope would certainly strain the other two phases to the point of being throttled. Through I'm very much not certain, and was wondering if anyone has any experience in this area, if you know anyone who does, or places I could post this elsewhere to help with my current throttling nightmare (brick wall of RED 'EDP Other' in throttlestop during simultaneous iGPU and CPU use). Thanks for reading.
  6. Hey guys, I recently bought a Dell Inspiron 7425 2-in-1 Laptop (Ryzen 7 5825U, 16GB). I ran some benchmarks on the original Windows 11 OEM install and noticed that it was performing much worse than what I expected from the hardware (e.g. Cinebench 23 scored ~8,000 points instead of ~ 10,000 expected). First I blamed it on all the Dell bloatware and power management app stuff, so I did a clean install of Windows 10 and ran my benchmarks again, when I noticed this behaviour: On the first Cinebench 23 run after a reboot, the Laptop performs as expected. Score is about 10,000 every time, package power ~30W and CPU clock ~3.0GHz (all readings taken with HWMonitor 1.50). After that, the trouble starts. The second run gives me about 9k points, package power is down to 23-25W and clocks ~2.8GHz. Performance degrades further with the following runs and it eventually settles in on around 7,5k points, 15W package power and 2,2GHz. Of course I first suspected thermal throttling, but I gave the CPU several minutes to cool down after every run and the temps in HWMonitor were (as expected) lower with every slower run, with the slowest runs it doesn't even exceed 60°C. The TDP of the R7 5825U is 15W, so it doesn't seem like coincidence to me that this is what it ends up with. It's almost like the Laptop "forgets" it is allowed to Turbo. Does anyone have any idea what could cause this behaviour or can confirm it with the same model? Should I return the Laptop while I still can? I'm a bit hesitant to contact Dell support, they'll probably just hit me with the old "have you turned it off and on again", I don't think customer support has helped me with a real problem ever in my life.
  7. Hey! So I am on a i7 6700k (yes still!) and I just got a new case and cooler as it used to be in an ITX system that got hot. My temps for evrything were not peaking 60 degrees in this new setup, so I decided I'd try some overclocking to 4.4 Ghz. All was working fine, played some hell let loose with some nice framerate increases, but then was getting framerate drops and crashes in Hellblade. I ran cinebench whilst recording to see what was up. I check my monitoring and this is the results (images) CPU core clocks jumping between 4.4Ghz and 800Mhz repeatedly througout the test, with CPU temps going from 67 degrees to 27 degrees in line with this (CPU fan following as well). It's obviously not thermal throttling, my highest CPU temp was 67 degrees. The highest temp sensor anywhere was the VRMs, at 91 degrees. Seems odd that the CPU is reporting massive swings in temp? Could this be the issue? Cinebench does not crash throughout the testing. Maybe this is power throttling - is there a way to see if my CPU is more hungry for the power the MB is giving it...odd that temp is still acting strange though.
  8. While playing Minecraft (the epitome of AAA graphics) earlier, I got some really long frames. I noticed that my GPU core clock was spending about a second at ~800mHz and then about two seconds dropping down to exactly 6mHz. The whole time the temperatures were stable at 51°-52°. It could be a power issue, but it runs fine for a while then starts doing this. It has never gotten this bad before, though. As far as I can tell, I have fully default settings and the latest drivers. Specs: GPU: Radeon 5600xt (Gigabyte dual fan) CPU: Ryzen 5600x PSU: EVGA 600watt semi modular
  9. Hi! I bought a HP Pavilion Gaming Laptop for multimedia work such as video editing and 3D applications. It has an - i7 - 9750H - GTX 1650 - 16gb DDR4 - 500gb NVMe SSD I noticed that Blender was not utilizing my GPU and so I configured the settings in Windows Graphical settings. Blender now uses my GPU, but it is not taking full advantage of it, and it seems to be throttling its performance while in viewport shading mode. Only using 14% of my GPU and getting quite low framerate. I compared this to my friend's 2017 HP OMEN, which uses a 1050, and his GPU usage is significantly higher, ranging in the 50% range or above, using an almost identical scene. I was wondering if there was any kind of fix for this issue. Any help is greatly appreciated!
  10. Hi, I bought a really disgusting pre-built and I'm experiencing strange CPU throttlings. (I had to put a water cooler since it had the stock one, the guy who built it seems very unprofessional and IDK if BIOS is well configured) Stress tests performed with MSI Kombastor shows the CPU running at 4,8 GHz and Max 80 degrees Celsius, the fact is that after 10 seconds it drops to 3.6 GHz and 50 degrees. I did a test with Intel XTU and it constantly says "Power Throttling" and "Current Throttling" (This last one is always shown, even without stress test). Can you guys help me trying to figure out the problem? Thanks CPU: i7-10700 (TurboBoost 3.0 enabled) GPU: RTX 2060 Mobo: Gigabyte H410M H (Pls check it, I guess it's horrible) PSU: Aerocool AERO White 700W
  11. Hello everyone, I am an architecture student, and I am currently looking for a new laptop/workstation, and I would like to ask some suggestions. I am currently using a very old Fujitsu workstation (10 years), but I have always been reluctant to let it go because of one very important aspect: cooling and consequently throttling. In architecture, we need to keep using our machines under high load for a very long amount of consecutive hours, often even days. For this reason I need a laptop or workstation that will keep on working without damaging the internals or without having to throttle too much. I have been looking at some picks online but nothing is said about cooling and temperatures under load. Can you suggest me something? Thank you very much!
  12. Hey, red LED in the bottom right of the motherboard sometimes lights up (image1, image2) and when it's lit, my CPU frequency drops to 0.78GHz which kills even traditional desktop workloads (opening websites is slower than usual). This happens on linux, windows, while gaming, while booting, while stressed or not stressed. Sometimes it disappears for a while and the PC works fine, but sometimes it appears out of nowhere - it's pretty random. Seems like it is not correlating with the system load. I've updated the BIOS, but the issue persists - the CPU throttles even with temps below 30°C. Any guidelines on why this might happen? CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K GPU: Radeon Sapphire RX5700XT MOTHERBOARD: MSI Z170A Gaming M3 RAM: 2x8GB G.SKILL Trident Z (DDR4, 2800MHz) PSU: SeaSonic SS-650KM Someone on MSI forums suggested it might be connected with the SLOW_1 switch, but when the switch is enabled, the CPU is constantly stuck at 0.78GHz. When it's set to normal, LED sometimes flickers (and CPU throttles), sometimes turns off for a while, sometimes it's fully turned on for a while (and CPU throttles). Could it be that the switch is making a bit of contact even when it is set to normal mode? Thanks in advance!
  13. Hi guys, I really need your help regarding throttling issues in my laptop. I'm using an ASUS TUF FX504GE (i5-8300H, 1050Ti) and on the latest bios update. There has been severe power limit throttling on my laptop, and my CPU speed throttles down to a range of 2.4ghz to 2.7ghz when I run even a slightly intensive program or game. Even the temperature for any programs locks to 88 degree celsius in the first few minutes even from a cold boot. I have been told that the main culprit is the low TDP cap enabled in the ASUS bios, along with the temperature issues. I am at a complete loss as to how to prevent CPU throttling. I have tried cooling pads, thermal paste change, undervolting (the latest bios update disabled this in Throttlestop), and all other usual tips. Can someone please tell me how to fix this issue for good? I expected the CPU to run at least at 3.6ghz, as other laptops using the exact same config as mine have no trouble running the same applications with these speeds even at high temps. I feel that a bios downgrade or unlock is the only solution for this, but since I don't know much about all this stuff, I will be grateful for any guidance on fixing this problem. I have also attached readouts from Throttlestop in case it is helpful in explaining my issue further. Please let me know if any other info or my bios dump is needed.
  14. I did a fresh win10 install on my brother's laptop (dell w/ 7300hq/1050) and after downloading csgo and starting it, I noticed it ran fine until the cpu started throttling to 1 ghz and the game dropped to 10 fps. I monitored the temps and they are alright, power did't exceed 28w (pl1 is 45w) so it's unclear to me what caused those stutters. I'll attach a pic of the clocks during gaming. Also, on a cpu stress test it didn't do that, instead it stayed locked at 3.1 ghz. How do I stop this from happening?
  15. I have an Intel i7 4770, not the k version.the base clock is 3.4ghz. I have enabled performance mode so the chip is at 3.8ghz at low utilization but what I don’t understand is why it goes down to 3.47ghz but is at 100% utilisation when I run cinebench or try to render something in premier pro . I have disabled eist in the bios but nothing changed.. The temps are hovering in the high 40s low 50s. If anybody has anything else that I can try please tell me.
  16. I am having an issue with my network where my 100 mbps network throttles to 8 mbps average and the worst case is that upload speed dips to 0.2 mbps. This issue happens whenever I run cpu or gpu heavy softwares like solidworks, ansys, adobe and even offline games. Speed obtained during normal cpu or gpu usage: Speed obtained during heavy cpu or gpu usage: In dire need of help for solving this weird problem.
  17. After repasting my old laptop (lenovo y700) with thermal grizzly hydronaut, it works fine for a couple of days and temps are awesome, after a week or so of heavy gaming gpu temps start to rise until it throttles. I open the laptop and I notice that thermal paste on the gpu is stting on side with the other side barely covered (pics), tried to reapply it works fine for another week then it happens again.
  18. I've been using PIA for years with no issues but for whatever reason today i opened qbitorrent and was getting absolutely ATROCIOUS download speeds (kilobits). (I have a 400-450 ish megabit connection through spectrum) i ran speed test through the vpn and was getting like 2 megabit on a good run. I then closed qbitrorrent. reloaded speedtest through the vpn. ran it again. and got 300 megabit+. i then opened qbittorrent again reloaded speed test and once again got terrible speeds. tested in this fashion a few more times and got fairly consistent results. has anyone else had an issue like this? Did PIA start throttling people for torrenting? I tried asking this same question on reddit but it got immediately removed. I didnt see a rules section on the pia sub so as far as i know i didnt break any rules and i got no indication as to why it was removed. But after what I experienced from where i'm sitting this whole thing is looking super sus. Thanks in advance hope you're all having an awesome day!
  19. Hi all! I currently game on a dell xps (waiting on pc parts) and I've been running into a problem. After playing a game for a while the cpu clock stays in the 2900's despite running into the power limit then all of a sudden it will drop to around 790 with no change in temps or anything. From my understanding when it hits the power limit shouldn't it just stay where it is? I can't think of a reason why it would throttle so heavily The cpu is an i7 7700HQ, I can provide HWINFO screenshots if needed. Thanks in advance for all the help
  20. I get really low fps in games like fortnite and cs go, I am barely able to get 60 fps in fortnite which keeps dropping to 10-20 fps while in game causing massive stutter and rendering the game unplayable. Other laptops with similiar or even less specs are easily able to push around 150-200 fps at medium-high settings in fortnite without any kind of overclocking. Specs: Intel Core i7-9750h RTX 2060 16 GB DDR4 RAM(Single Channel) Windows 10 I have tried a ton of fixes -Updating BIOS -Clean Windows 10 reinstall -Changing power management settings in windows as well as nvidia control panel -Undervolting/Underclocking/Overclocking -Running this command(as administrator) "bcdedit /set useplatformclock false" and disabling hyperthreading did however significantly reduce overall stuttering it had little to no effect in games -Identified DPC latency issues with latency mon and tried to fix them with a tool like Driver Booster 8, which did however reduce the latency the issue still perists -Completely deleted nvidia drivers with ddu in safe mode and reinstalled them -Disabled Turbo Mode in cpu (for consistent performance and current limit throttling) None of the above fixes seem to have worked, my game still stutters like crazy and frames keep dropping around the 10-20 range. I cannot really return this and ask for a replacement, I bought it around June 2019 and had not really started gaming until recently and hence was unaware if the issue all this time. The warranty has expired My temps while gaming: -GPU : 84-88 degrees -CPU : 92-97 degrees -GPU clock : 1000-1200 mhz -CPU clock : 2.7 GHz (Turbo Disabled)
  21. So I'm not new to PC gaming, but I only recently bought my first windows based laptop. Its a Lenovo Legion 5i 17" , configured with an i7 10750H & RTX 2060. Right away I noticed it's a completely different computer in terms of performance when running on battery. Roughly 75% CPU and 50% GPU when comparing to being plugged in. Trying to figure out if this is software based throttling , or a hardware power limitation (the power brick is 230w, so maybe battery can't deliver sufficient power to match?). I've tried everything software-wise I can think of (battery power settings, disable power throttling in local group policy editor, custom power plan, disabling "dynamic platform and thermal framework" in bios (this helped most but not 100%)). So my questions are : A) Is this a common issue for gaming laptops similar to mine? Would certainly want to know if my unit is defective in any way. B) Is there a safe/effective way to enable full performance while using battery? I know this would drain the battery extremely quickly but it would be nice to have the option.
  22. I have an ASUS gaming laptop with i5-8300H, GTX 1050Ti, 8GB RAM. Whenever I play games while being plugged in the CPU clock frequency drops down to as low as 800Mhz and there are a lot of frame drops. But when I remove adapter and run on battery the CPU clock speed increases by a small amount, the GPU clock speed drops, but I get constant 30 FPS without any frame drops.I don't know why this is happening. I attached a log file from Throtllestop. I was running DMC5 till 18:53:59 while being plugged in with crappy frames. At 18:54:00 I switched to battery power and got consistent 30 FPS. Can anyone help please as I am unable to play games. The log file is attached. 2021-01-11.txt
  23. Hi all, I've been unable to find anyone with the same problem so far so I figured I'd just post. I have an Asus Tuf fx505 with an i5-9300h and a GTX 1650. As of 2 days ago I am having severe power limit throttling issues. Both in games and idle or doing basic web browsing my CPU is stuck at around 800Mhz when it normally runs 3500-4000Mhz under load. I've monitored this with XTU and in-game with Afterburner and it's very consistent. My performance is absolute garbage. XTU stress test told me it's power limit throttling and not thermal. To fix it I've rebooted several times, changed my power profile several times, unplugged and plugged back in. I'm not really sure what else to try. Any assistance is greatly appreciated. Edit: It looks like as soon as I put it under load my processor cache frequency drops from about 2.1Ghz to 0.8Ghz almost instantly and my maximum core frequency follows a few seconds later? Weird that it can idle at normal frequencies but as soon as I put it under load everything plummets. Edit 2: SOLVED!!! Apparently something (most likely armoury crate) set my turbo power limits to 5W. I just manually set different values and everything is back to normal. Big shout out to Unclewebb and Threecakes for figuring this out and providing instructions on how to fix it!
  24. Specs: MSI ventus RTX 3080 LHR OC 10GB Ryzen 7 3700x Asus pro x570-pro Corsair Vengeance DDR4 3600 Corsair 850W gold PSU Games arent getting high FPS like theyre supposed to and the GPU usage is only around 30% in some games and 80% in others. CPU usage is no where close to being maxxed out. Most game are around 40% CPU usage. Upgraded power supply because i thought that was the issue. Upgraded all bioses and drivers. I have no idea what else could be the issue. Temps hover around 80c. I get 90FPS in 1080p max settings in PUBG, 120-150FPS 1080p Fortnite max settings. 140fps in COD.
  25. Hi, I know the model isn't the newest, but my xps 9500's GPU only maintains at 40W for about 3 mins and then throttles to 20W and frequency drops to something like 1400MHz instead of 1900MHz. The utilization also becomes 100% after throttling. It seems that Dell set a GPU long-term power limit of 20W on my xps 9500 (which has a 10750H and 1650Ti). Is there any way that I can bypass this power limit? It really kills the FPS from 60FPS with 50% utilization to 30FPS with 100% utilization. Btw, the temperature before throttle was 75C and after that it was around 65C, which I consider to be not high enough to cause the temperature throttle. Before Throttling: After Throttling: It seems like this problem is from DELL.
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