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  1. Hi Hivemind, So, basically I have been scouring the internet for months. MONTHS! *thunder* and I am slowly turning insane because as usual every corner of the interwebs says something different (mostly talks smack). I have bought a Ryzen 7 3800x on Black Friday and I am building a system around it. Because of my case, it has to be Micro ATX it can be whatever (read below). I assebled a PCPartPicker list of the parts I was looking at. With the exception of the second motherboard (listed below). Graphicscard isn't my current priority, I just want a better system than the one I have right now. Also no Watercooling, as I am absolutely paranoid about them and can't afford replacement parts for the pc in the forseable future. Country: Germany Budget: listed below, but in general kind of 100-200 Euro per part. Please be advised, the actual cost in terms of the numbers is higher in euros, so a 170 quid piece on part picker is 200 Euro on the german market... yay paying premium for premium currency... and no, because of international shipping and tolls, ordering over the US would not give me any decent profit margin. What I want to do with it: A bit of everything. I draw, I 3D model, I watch videos. But all of those as a hobby. My main purpose will be gaming. 1080p most likely, purely cause I am using an old gel LCD IBM monitor and my priority is rather to have the rig done (including GPU) before I look for anything outside of it. Parts in Possession: Ryzen 7 3800x with Stock Cooler VIBOX Commando Case Red (And Glowing red all round) (Can fit ATX & has holes for it, but that would push the Mainboard pretty tight against the Diskdrive and Harddrive Cage) https://www.vibox.co.uk/element 1x Diskdrive (installed in the case, I use it at times, question is if I should remove it for more space/flexibility. would potentially allow for more front fans, but the case has a closed front anyway so...indifferent) Palit GTX 960 4GB JetStream (old card from a friend, before that I had my beautiful Zotac GTX 650Ti Boost fighting to play Monster Hunter World. this will stay in until I can afford a Zotac RTX 2060 Super AMP! or 2070 Super AMP!) SanDisk Ultra 1TB SSD (I want at least another TB and if possible a 500-1TB NVME PCIE 3 or 4 M.2 for my boot) The old PC will be scrapped/used for emergencies. Parts that I have been looking at: PCPartPicker Part List Type Item Price CPU AMD Ryzen 7 3800X 3.9 GHz 8-Core Processor $338.99 @ Amazon Motherboard ASRock X570M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard $177.99 @ Amazon Memory G.Skill Aegis 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory $69.98 @ Amazon Memory Patriot Viper Steel 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory $84.99 @ Amazon Storage Sabrent Rocket 4.0 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive $119.98 @ Amazon Storage SanDisk Ultra 3D 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive $119.99 @ Walmart Storage Crucial MX500 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive $114.99 @ Adorama Power Supply Corsair RMx 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply $179.99 @ Amazon Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts Total $1206.90 Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-04-15 12:35 EDT-0400 For the mainboard, my decision fell on either the ASROCK X570M Pro4 as listed above, or the ASROCK B450M Steel legend. The reason was, up until I saw a picture while litterally writing this, I thought ATX would also get wider than microATX, instead of only taller... I have spent months debating this flippin motherboard and I could cry now... Fudge me... anyway. In this case, while ATX would mean it sits a bit tight against my PSU, I don't mind suggestions toward ATX mainboards. However the current board inside is Micro-ATX Same for the RAM it is either 3000 or 3600, or whatever is cheapest and does the job to be honest, after so many tests claim that the RAM speed has barely any impact? on the 3rd Gen Ryzen processors. I would like the powersupply to be modular if possible, but if that luxury costs me 50+ quid extra, I would be wiling to side with a semi modular one. 650 W was listed as enough (with another 100 W margin) even with a future gaphicscard according to PartPicker. With regards to further cooling, I wanted to get some of these: https://www.amazon.de/dp/B06WD5ZVRG/ref=psdc_430200031_t1_B00VRKVGUA?th=1 They seem to be cheep, get the job done, and are 18-21Db. I need quiet fans as the pc is sitting on my table with the "look inside" panel, which has a fan (feels like output, not sure) is facing toward me. Which currently makes it slightly uncomfortable to play highend games when all the fans ramp up. Like "I need to speak louder so my folks can hear me in discord" to "I can't hear anything outside this room" kinda loud. 2 on the top of the case (output) and maybe one on the back as input. Reason being, as can be seen on VIBOX website, the front panel, while it can be folded open, is mostly solid. The only input is two small areas toward the bottom front. I have a phobia of watercoolers, as I don't think that damage is in the warranty for all of the other parts and depending on if I get back into a future Uni course or not, I will not be able to pay for replacements if the watercooling decides to duck me over. Anyway, That is all, for anyone that read this far down, thanks so much for any insight or advise, Take care and hope to hear from yous all soon, I'd like to get this done before the lockdown lifts, if possible. Kind Regards and stay healthy, Daniel
  2. I just recently upgraded my setup from i5 6600k to a Ryzen 7 3800x and Asrock X570M pro4 and cannot stop having stability issues no matter what is done. my setup is: ASUS GTX 1080, Samsung SSD 850 Evo 250gb (operating system), seagate barracuda 1TB harddrive(game library), corsair 850watt 80 PLUS Bronze power supply, G.Skill NT series 16GB (2x8GB) 288-pin DDR4 2400mhz, x570m pro4 asrock motherboard and ryzen 7 3800x cooled with a cooler master liquid lite ML240L AIO. Windows 10 64 bit home After putting together i installed windows and updated all drivers with no problems but then randomly after almost a day i notice random crashes. The crashes seem to only happen when I am NOT under any kind of load on the system. I know this because i tried stress testing everything with no crashes at all but once i end the stress test and do something basic like surf the internet or open or close simple software i get crashes. It never crashes in the middle of working on anything or gaming. For example today's case, Turned my computer on from sleep mode and opened up COD MW and played for almost an hour while also watching a twitch stream on a second monitor, fps around 130+ no stuttering and twitch stream ran perfectly and was easily able to switch between the 2. Switched from COD to League of legends and same thing awsome fps and not issues at all. I then shut down the gaming and stream and just go to amazon and i crash. The first crash was page access error then it kept crashing on startup saying Memory_management error until i finally got it to startup again then used it for a while similarly to before and the cycle of crashing began again after doing simple tasks. I notice that 9/10 the crashes are memory management errors. I have tried everything to trouble shoot i have fresh installed windows several times, run memtest86 with no errors 4 passes, i have run windows memory check tools with no errors, stressed test with prime 95 ran cinebench etc. no crashes during any stress tests no errors and no bad scores everything works fine until i lower the load to almost idle and then i usually crash with typically a memory managment error. The only thing i can think of is a memory issue becuase my memory is not on the QVL but im not sure that makes a huge difference and am working to try to get new memory. I have turned on and off XMP and tried to under clock my memory speed and increase voltage and vice versa with no changes to behavior, upgraded my bios and made sure everything important was installed and still ahve crashes. Is my board or CPU DOA, is my memory bad or could it be software related?
  3. Hey, everybody, I'd be interested in some things about the CPU. After a lot of watched clips on YouTube, I saw 3700x and 3800x differ by 2%. I also want to take Liquid Freezer II 360. Now the question is whether it pays to take 3800x which is more expensive and has TDP 105W or take 3700x. Also, if you have any idea of changing anything on this build give me a suggestion. Literally anything. ( Except GPU ). For example, to take that and that, and why. Thanks. CPU: Ryzen 7 3700x/3800x AIO: Liquid Freezer II 360 GPU: GTX 1080 MSI GamingX MBO: B450 Tomahawk MAX RAM: HyperX Predator 2x8GB 2933Mhz SSD: Patriot Viper VPN100 256GB HDD: 1TB 7200RPM PSU: Corsair RM650x 650W Case: Titan II Pro
  4. Hey guysI just bought a bunch of new components and couldn't get the build to power on. I put everything together and couldn't get anything to power on, the PSU wouldn't even turn on when connected to the motherboard but would power on with the paperclip test. I couldn't jump the motherboard, tried different ram seatings, 1 stick of ram in different seatings, checked GPU on my old motherboard and double-checked PSU at the same time, made sure fans weren't shorting the motherboard. The only things I couldn't check individually were the RAM and CPU as my previous board is an intel B360 Gaming Plus board and only supports up to 2666mhz. I've returned the board and their testing team has said they couldn't replicate the fault and that the board has no issues.The components I bought wereGigabyte X570 gaming + motherboardAMD ryzen 7 3800x CPU16gb DDR4 FlareX ram @ 3200mhzThe components I added wereCougar GX800 V3 800W 80+ gold PSURX Vega 64Do you guys have any idea what could be causing the issue? need help urgentlyThanks in advance Should add that the PSU and GPU are in the computer I'm using now and working perfectly
  5. Hello, I am coming to you for help after not finding any solutions to my problem. Brand new: Mb: Asus ROG Crosshair Hero VIII Wifi x570 Cpu: AMD Ryzen 7 3800x Ram: Corsair Vengeance 3200MHz (2x8) Psu: Corsair RM650x Used and working fine (had these in my previous build), and still using in new build: Gpu: EVGA 1060SC Hard drives: boot drive KFA2 120 Gb SSD, 960 Gb Kingston SSD, 1To HDD, 2To HDD So, after I built everything with the new stuff, all pluged-in and everything, it didn't boot and stopped at QCode 10: PEI Core is started. After looking at some forum posts on the internet I tried changing the ram (bought the new 3200 for that, I had 2133 before from Corsair as well). Tried my previous psu (EVGA 500W 80+). Tried to boot without any drives, and just with the OS drive after that. Tried to boot with only 1 ram stick in the A2 slot (farthest on the right), and with both A2 and B2. Nothing worked and I'm still stuck with my QCode 10... If you know anything about this error I need help please. I'd be glad to provide you with any more details if you ask. Thank you EDIT: my old ram sticks now don't work on my old build anymore, qcode 53, even after multiple swaps and tries in every slot...
  6. I'm looking to build a gaming rig for AAA games at 2k, also capable of running [some] 3d printing cad sofware, and web browsing using AMD ryzen. Not interested in RGB but I wouldn't refuse a good piece if it had. because i'm new to bulding i need some help with the quality/prefomance/price of the components i'm going to use i have a rough idea but need help ironing it out. First i'm from Canada buget 2500 to 3500 CPU: Ryzen 7 AM4 3700X (this was recommended to me but would I need to go higher?) Motherboard: Asus Prime x570-P Mobo Memory: TridentZ 32GB 3200Mhz CL16 gskill PSU: Corsair TX850W gold GPU: EVGA 2070 Super Black Gaming 8GB M.2 SSD: AData XPg SX8200 1TB WD Black 2TB HDD Case: Corsair Obisidian 750D (optional - I like this one but I'm not too picky, but I do want a full-size case) Monitor: still looking - any recommondations? High res, 2k gaming, 24-32" I have a mouse and keyboard None of these parts are set in stone so if you have other recommondations I'd love to hear them.
  7. I have recently purchased an ASUS ROG STRIX x570-F motherboard, and an AMD Ryzen 7 3800x processor. Everything seems to be going really well, but there are some temperature readings that seem _really_ high. The CPU and motherboard temps are fine, but some of the other sensors are reading what seem to me to be extremely high temps. For my old motherboard there was some monitoring software that would show the temperature, and where it was read from on the board. I can't find a similar app for this motherboard. All I have are these HWINFO64 readings with (seemingly) extremely high Temp2 and Temp5 readings. I've installed the Wraith Prism that came with the processor and have done no overclocking. I also have 4 case fans, 1 intake on the front, 2 exhaust on the top and 1 exhaust on the rear. So I would think my cooling's adequate for a non-overclocked CPU Are these temps something I should be worried about? Is there an application which can tell me where on the motherboard they're being measured? Any help would be appreciated, thank you.
  8. im hearing that some older mobo wont get full bios for the new ryzen such as x3900???? can someone tell me if i upgraded to x3900 on my asus strix x470-I will get full bios or cut down version???? thank you
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