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Good Morning my Friends (10:00 In Europe right now) Is this used maschine alright for this Price? Im trying to get it down to 650€ but no answer right now.

hey guys! i was watching scrapyard wars of old and had the sad realization that with the steam deck being not only a consumer viable option but probably the best option for budget pc gaming. and now with the rog ally on the horizon, what is the better option at $400, $500, $600, $700? base "system" -> base system + 1tb "upgrade" (or equivalent upgrade in budget). and i have some interesting results. DISCLAIMER! i am in no way a tech guru of any kind. i do favor amd products, though i try to be fair and go with fps/dollar. fuck Nvidia. most of my choice are based on research (google) and i dont have any hardware to test. i will be assuming mouse, keyboard, controller, tv/monitor will already be provided in some way. 1. $400 all new PC https://pcpartpicker.com/list/H73G78 okay this parts list had to be kinda cut throat. cpu- AMD Ryzen 3 4100 3.8 GHz Quad-Core Processor MB- ASRock A520M-HDV Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ram- Samsung Green 8 GB (1 x 8 GB) DDR4-2133 CL15 Memory storage- TEAMGROUP AX2 512 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive gpu- Sapphire PULSE Radeon RX 6500 XT 4 GB Video Card case- DIYPC F2 MicroATX Mini Tower Case psu- Thermaltake Smart 500 W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply with this pc coming in at just under the $400 (at time of writing) im both happy and disapointed. the r3 4100 is an already aging quad-core that wont be much more than a paper weight in about a year with AAA gaming. rx6500xt looks to be a 1060 6gb equivalent (maybe? i dont have the physical cards to test), again not a stand out for coming AAA titles. the motherboard does not have wifi or bluetooth so wires tangle. i hate only having a single stick of ram, and on top of that its 8gb 2133. i could have done a single 16gb 3200 stick but that would have taken the budget to 403.92, for this excerise i decided if i was buiding a pc at this budget that would mean i didnt have a cent too spare. now for some positives, the teamgroup ssd is a great buy that follow an upgrade path for many years to come. the case is peferctly suitable for many budgets. and the power supply has both qualites, though a 80+ bronze would have been more favorable. conclusion? $400 is not enough with last gen consoles, current gen consoles, and other options in this post i cant see a reason to even try with this budget or parts list. do not buy. 2. 399.99 Steam Deck https://store.steampowered.com/cart as basic as it gets, not much to say here. CPU: Zen 2 4c/8t, 2.4-3.5GHz (up to 448 GFlops FP32) GPU: 8 RDNA 2 CUs, 1.0-1.6GHz (up to 1.6 TFlops FP32) RAM: 16 GB LPDDR5 on-board RAM STORAGE: 64 GB eMMC okay there is alot to unpack here. 64gb is not enough storage, you could maybe get one AAA title but it would be an older one. APU is already seeing its performance ceiling. future AAA gaming will tough unless developers make ports targeting the steam deck hardware. not impossible but not likely. there is no upgrade to the gpu, cpu, apu, however whatever. this system is as good as it gets outside of software support. now for the positives! its a fucking steam deck! the most portable pc of all time. the console to do your taxes on. this is probably the best emulation machine. steamos is a huge selling point. emudeck makes emulating almost anything! switch titles are very popular as well as gamecube, ps3, snes, n64, ps2, etc. now getting the software is not part this discussion and the rule remains; dont pirate and dont get caught. conclusion? $400 for the steam deck is an excellent buy but limiting. desktop mode will be a learning curve to use with built in controls. the 64gb will need additional storage via sd card and of course i would reccomend looking into a usb type-c dock. but outta the box it is a good buy. 3. $500 all new PC https://pcpartpicker.com/list/87rQTn this is the new starter budget, some parts remain from the $400 list but now we have a respectable pc. cpu- AMD Ryzen 5 5500 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor MB- Gigabyte B450M DS3H WIFI Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ram- Silicon Power SP016GBLFU320B22 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL22 Memory storage- TEAMGROUP AX2 512 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive gpu- Gigabyte EAGLE Radeon RX 6600 8 GB Video Card case- DIYPC F2 MicroATX Mini Tower Case psu- Thermaltake Smart 500 W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply with this pc coming in at just under the $500 (at time of writing) im very happy with the list. bumping the cpu 6cores 12 threads is a big upgrade. the rx6600 is great budget card at the moment. 16gb of 3200 ddr4 is again a great upgrade and as ive said before the ssd, psu, and case are the same. and now we have wifi! allowing you to set this up anyway you have signal. this setup should allow you to run almost any AAA game from the past few years with some (or alot) concessions. lowering settings, resolution, etc; but that doesnt mean it will be playable. emulation should a home run. the only thing i wish i couldve upgraded/added was more storage. conclusion? if you have the budget and peripherals (mouse, keyboard, monitor,etc) this is a good buy to get started with pc gaming. 4. $500 steam deck budget https://store.steampowered.com/cart again i reccomend the base model with some add comforts Type-C Dock: https://www.amazon.com/JSAUX-Compatible-Ethernet-Charging-Deck-HB0603/dp/B0B7HVZNMB/ref=sr_1_22?crid=1IFASXGAVQBBN&keywords=usb+type+c+steam+deck&qid=1685568067&s=electronics&sprefix=usb+type+c+steam+deck%2Celectronics%2C170&sr=1-22 MICO-SD-CARD: https://www.amazon.com/PNY-Elite-MicroSD-Card-P-SDUX512U3100PRO-GE/dp/B07KD4XJLX/ref=sr_1_8?keywords=micro+sd+card&qid=1685568196&refinements=p_n_feature_two_browse-bin%3A13203835011&rnid=6518301011&s=pc&sprefix=micro%2Celectronics%2C219&sr=1-8 alright this a quick and easy upgrade, a type-c dock will make everything easier and allow you to use the steam deck as proper pc. and the micro sd card just opens you game library. the given examples are around $50 each but you could just buy a 1tb sd card and go from there. conclusion? this is a much better experience, but you are still on the same hardware. you will be trading horse power for portablity compared to the $500 PC. but if you are a student or live in a small apartment the steam is still a great option that doesnt need much more than what comes stock. i have a hard time reccomending the steam deck at this price point if you want a "gaming Pc" but if you want a badass handheld with pc games its a no brainer get this! 5. $600 all new PC https://pcpartpicker.com/list/BzfLhk this is such a non-upgrade it hurts. cpu-AMD Ryzen 5 5500 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor MB-Gigabyte B450M DS3H WIFI Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ram-Silicon Power SP016GBLFU320B22 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL22 Memory storage-TEAMGROUP AX2 512 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive Seagate ST4000NM0024 4 TB 3.5" 7200 RPM Internal Hard Drive gpu-Gigabyte EAGLE Radeon RX 6600 8 GB Video Card case- psu-Corsair CX650M (2021) 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply i hate this list, the only parts i could really upgrade was extra storage and better quality power supply. the extra $100 does nothing to give a better gaming experience. okay you could upgrade the cpu to a 5600x with extra storage but the point is $600 not the sweet at the moment. conclusion? just dont. 6. $600 steam deck budget get base model, buy more accessories 7. $700 all new PC https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XBqf6r okay this a solid upgrade, $700 puts us in a better position. cpu-AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor MB-Gigabyte B450M DS3H WIFI Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ram-Silicon Power SP016GBLFU320B22 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL22 Memory storage-TEAMGROUP AX2 512 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive gpu-ASRock Challenger D OC Radeon RX 6700 XT 12 GB Video Card psu-Thermaltake Smart 500 W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply im happy with this, we have a great middle of the road pc. the 6700xt is a last gen card but under cuts everything in its weight class except the 7600xt. the 5600x is a work horse of a cpu. it can game well, edit video, 3d model, etc all quite well. now we are hitting the 500 watt ceiling. depending on load (cpu or gpu) this system could crash, or just out right trip the psu. of course i would like to see more storage im happy to focus on the performance now and add storage later. conclusion? this a good buy, if you have the budget jump on it. 8. ROG ally $600 & $700 budget yes the the ROGA is right around the corner. it will blow the steam deck out or the water at every turn except for base model price. its support for external gpu docking (though clunky as hell) looks to be the future. more horse power in the same form factor is amazing and we have competition for Valve to win our dollar back. BUT! dont buy day one. please at this budget ROGA is still too much of a wild card. it could (more than likely will) boom or it could flop. dont roll the dice if you are just trying to game. the previous options have way too much foundation to pass up not to mention the $700 and $500 will out perform the ROGA and SteamDeck. conclusion? dont buy......... yet? i think in a year from now we could see a proper port of steamos for the ROGA along with a years worth accessories which would blast it to first place. but we dont have it today so dont go buying as if it is. alright, hopefully this will make sense for everyone reading. i asked a question and then hyper fixated for 3-3.5 hrs to right this post. what do you guys think? i think at $400 buy a steamdeck $500 look at the above parts list $700 look at the above parts list its great that these hand helds will drive more competition with lower end pc's causing price drops for both older gen and new hardware. if the steamdeck came out when i building my first pc i would have gone all in on the steamdeck. all the accessories, sd cards, docks, emulation,etc and not regret a single purchase. i still use mine everyday for casual gaming and have my main rig just for channel stuff. it works out great. anyways guys like for the read and feed back and i cant wait to watch this thread.

during the 16:58 (link skips you to there https://youtu.be/USr4vZpYkD0?t=1018) they say they called up a computer recycling company and that everything they have is still new and 50%off. who is this company, because im buying stuff opnly 25% off like a pleb. ive done some searching but i was unable to find them, maybe its a regional search, maybe im a dum dum, i hope you find it and lmk. Thanks in advance.

Hey people been doing my own scrap yard build on £300 gbp so far I got a rgb case with 500w psu For £45 and a Asus P8H61-I Mini ITX 1155 motherboard with i5 Quad 2400s & 2* 4gb Corsair XMS ram sticks for £50 for storage I got a intel 160gb ssd for £16.99 and a western digital 500gb hard drive for £8 now I’m looking for the best graphics card to use that won’t severely bottleneck the i5 but still giving the best performance. I was thinking a Evga gtx 1050ti 4gb but want people’s opinions many thanks !!!

I was thinking of new Scrapyard Wars scenarios, and I was thinking "what if they were to build the best dell Optiplex while still maintaining a 'dell Optiplex' look?" Idk, thought that it's a decent idea I really love the whole scrapyard wars series, it's very entertaining to watch.

i had this thought for the next season of scrapyard wars. what if, both teams had an inexperienced person who didn't know that much about computers, and the catch is the inexperienced team member must do all negotiation, and must lead the building process in the end, the other member is primarily there to guide the person with things like, what they would recommend looking at in terms of parts and how to build the pc. but the inexperienced member must lead the way in the final decision making.

first build done, just put together what i could find. thank you to the guys who helped me with the software issues from this forum.

I always love pushing old hardware to its limits, and I had an idea for scrapyard wars or a similar video. Essentially, the goal would be to be able to push older hardware with Overclocking/Cooling and get it to perform as close to newer hardware as possible. The older the hardware and the lower the performance gap the better the score(Maybe a different score for each). You could have a budget involved but I also think it would be fun to have almost no budget and see how crazy the cooling would be to really push the hardware.

Scrapyard Wars 2019 needs to happen! The problem is Linus is out of interesting ideas for it so probably won't do it (Announced on the WAN show Feb 1st) My Idea: Get two of you less tech savvy employees such as Dennis to do it and they are allowed 3 questions. If you have any other ideas put them below. Thanks!

Hey guys, I thought I'd share my idea for the next Scrapyard Wars. As we've seen, every season generally has a theme to it, water cooled pc's (without of the shelf components), performance per dollar, no internet, etc. I then thought of something, what if they did a performance/watt challenge? Not sure how big the budget should be, but I think it's really interesting, since you usually overclock and get the most as you can out of your cpu/gpu, whilst now you might prefer to run stock or even try undervolting. Plus getting a good power supply would also be important, since you'd want to draw as little power as possible and thus getting something highly rated (instead of some jank no-name PSU) could be worth spending the extra money.

Build 2 exact same setups, maybe put it in the worst case imaginable. 9590, several 480s in sli. Overclock them both to same baseline. Remove the existing thermal solutions on the gpus and cpu, psu, mb vrms. Set a budget. Put it through the same load test. 2 metrics of performance, load temperature and noise levels. Adjust it per dollar spent or something.

After watching season 7, I found that all the seasons were sort off blending into one. however I have two ideas of what to do for season 8 Idea 1: Workstations: I know gaming is most people's interest however trying to build a system with a xeon and a good amount of ram and enough storage Idea 2: File Server: They have to build a file server for the least amount of money. Rules: Must be in a rack mount case Must have a 10gb nic Must have 10tb of storage Whoever's server transfers and reads a 1gb file the fastest wins Thanks Ps sorry if I posted in the wrong topic

Have a great idea for Scrapyard Wars season 8, but want to propose it to someone that can consider it without Linus or Luke's (and the community's) knowledge so it's a surprise if they like the idea. Anyone know who is the one that comes up with the rules for the different seasons so I could DM them my idea? Thanks in advance for any help!

Tech prices are massively inflated in the UK and the rest of the EU. I would love to see Linus and Luke attempt to build second hand gaming machines while negotiating the difficulties of currencies and price points that are unfamiliar, in a city as unfamiliar as London.

So I bought a full PC package (periphs and monitor) second hand from a guy for $100. Can we groupthink the breakdown what the periphs would go for so I could estimate what would the PC only components total would be worth / what I paid for it (if I took out the FMV of monitor)? FYI I use this for some 1080 gaming in my spare time (I don't do much gaming). Intel OEM mATX board i5-2400 120G SSD (namebrand) 16G DDR3 RAM (can't remember MHz) 1TB HDD Corsair 450ish PSU GTS 250 (I replaced with 1050ti I got on sale) 24in (I think) 60hz 1920 x 1080p monitor nongaming periphs Coolermaster case (nothing special) Windows 7 geniune to install (he cleanwiped the drives) What would you say the % of the price is the FMV monitor? IOW, if this guy is selling this package, how much do you think he would have sold the PC only for? I'm guessing the periphs have a FMV of $5-10? What would the FMV of the monitor be? What would you sell this combo for? What would you sell the PC only for?

So I bought a scrapyard wars type computer for 1080p gaming. I don't do much gaming so 1080p is good enough for me. One guy sold me a whole package 2nd gen intel i5, monitor, periphs. etc for $100. It had a terrible graphics card so I replaced it with a GeForce® GTX 1050 Ti G1 Gaming 4G with the highest OC boost clock they make of 1506 MHz. It was on sale so yay! (I live in rural idaho without any second hand market for GPUs. I read that 1050tis don't need 6pin psu power, but mine does apparently. I booted up and I got a terminal type text message saying it needed 6pin power. It works great, but I'm just wondering what is up with it b/c i thought it got all the power it needed through the PCI slot. My two guesses on why my 1050ti needs external power: My board is a OEM board with only PCI 2.0. Does it need 3.0/ does 3.0 carries more amps? or do different partner manufacturers have different requirements / nonreference faster cards may require more power? Also don't hate on my budget 1080p scrapyard wars computer. I got it all for $270.

So I got a push notification on my mobile phone about 10 minutes ago about the new LTT video "Scrapyard Wars 7 Prt1: NO INTERNET!", when Itried accessing the video I got the usual "The video is unavaible" thing. I believe it somehow showed my the video on their channel at the moment they uploaded it and not at the moment they set it to public. Did this ever happen to one of you before? EDIT: So apparently this isn't a bug and the video got taken down.

In Scrapyard wars Season 7 episode 1, whose phone no. did Linus write on the back of his car and on the shirt, I was honestly wondering if Its a fake no (BUT WHY WOULD YOU ADVERTISE USING A FAKE NUMBER) or if its an editing mistake that was overlooked. If anyone can provide an answer please do so.

So I'm going to start building my first PC for "study and school work" *cough* gaming. My budget is as low as possible, like €300 (I live in Ireland ??) but the good news is that I'm heading into my dad's office to chat with their IT guys tí see what salvageable CPUs, motherboards and ram I can take. I know they have old desktops and servers that won't be seeing any use except for recycling so I want to know what CPUs in particular I should look for (specific models of Core i5, i7 and Xeon (or amd equivalent)) all would be probably be between 2008 and 2013 processors and I'm looking at pairing it with a Gtx 1050 so whatever CPU can match that with decent gaming preformance would be useful, just don't know what exact ones I should keep an eye out for. ________________________________________ Update: It's been over a week since I posted, got a fail safe graphics card, a GT 730 off a friend and on Monday I begin my most majestic of salvage, going for whatever the best cpu they have is provided it's at least a quad core. Thanks for the advice guys! ?

So I have been waiting sense Nov. 4th for the next season of scrapyard wars. Does anyone have any idea who will be in it, what the budget is, and when it is happening? If no-one knows, Lets give some suggestions to Linus and his team.

So there has been an interesting twist in each one so far such as water cooling, RGB, having to pay for food/transportation, etc. So since most so far have focused on gaming pcs, why not do a workstation one? Benchmarks based on CAD, 3D rendering, virtualization, CPU intensive mathematical/statistical calculations, etc. A twist could be to allow 1 item to be researched and ordered from Amazon/ebay ahead of time (still coming out of the budget). I'm not sure how good the Craigslist market is for workstation hardware so it would be helpful. Adding displays into the budget and having bonus points for multi monitors seems interesting as well.

I figure I'd make a thread asking people about parts or even systems they got for free. Cool stuff, really nice stuff or just odd stuff. Examples for me would be things like my brother handing me a Geforce 4 ti4200 (A year old card at the time) because he thought he'd killed it. Another would be the time my dad got 2 sticks of Crucial Ballistix 512MB DDR3200 from a Crucial Rep and because his computer couldn't run them I got them instead. I grew up with my dad as a Computer Store Sales Manager so often old computer parts or even full systems would be left at the store by customers upgrading. So how about you all? What sort of nice free second hand or even new stuff have you gotten for your computers?

what is scrapyard wars theme song which plays in this video at start