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My 2 cents:
 
1) Video quality. If i am paying money i expect the bandwidth, and video quality to be better than youtube. It is not. It's barely 720p, linus might as well record on a flip camera. Also trying to buffer in anywhere expect from the usa is impossible. I have a 100mb+ connection here in the uk and it is buffering. Ridiculous
 
2) App and website. First of all, the website is slow and unresponsive. And the android app? Well it's rubbish because you can't open it because IT DOESN'T EXIST. And don't even try and watch videos on linux!
 
Linus, why can't you code and host your own alternative to youtube.  

Vessel looks like 720p. YouTube looks like 4K on 4K supported videos. If Vessel won't have 4K support, there is no way I am going to switch. Also a paid service to watch my favorite youtubers? Hell no.

@nicklmg @Slick
Feedback for vessel: Video quality isn't great. And I would like dedicated quality toggles - 480p, 720p, 1080p etc. 1080p tends to lag, but I don't want to downgrade all the way to 480p if I can avoid it.
UX is alright, needs some maturation, looking forward to trying it on the iPad, because YouTube's iOS apps are awful.
The platform makes sense since there is 5 or 6 other channels I watch on there.
 
Feedback for you: Diversification is always good, and hope this brings what you need. The poorer quality of video on Vessel though is something I'd be pressuring them on, because your production values are really excellent, and people using the "premium" platform, get worse quality.

I have a really BIG question related to VESSEL, WHY DOES VESSEL NOT HAVE AN ANDROID APP!!? 
Please let me know Linus. This is so not 2015 for Vessel.  

If you act like Vessel doesn't exist, there will be literally no difference for you. We will still release a video each and every day on YouTube.
 
Totally understand that. Some may say that it's good to escape a bit from the Google ecosystem, some love having everything integrated into one. It's all up to personal preference, and luckily you can choose which one you prefer and support us there
 
Like I've said before in the thread - if you just act like they don't exist, you will notice literally no difference. We'll still upload daily to both platforms.
 
Weird... Send me a PM and I'll follow up with them when I can.
 
Should come through relatively quickly. Let me know if it takes too much longer...
 
Vessel will get each video 7 days before YouTube.
 
Nice to hear that you're enjoying the layout and comments! I think the design on Vessel is a huge selling point.
 
Let's hope so! Thanks for your support!
 
Can't comment on the financial components of the deal, sorry.
 
Hah, YouTube comments are a lost cause... Glad you're now in the place where meaningful discussion can be had
 
Exactly. That's the only way it made sense for us, so we made it a reality.
Thank you for supporting!!!
 
PM me and I'll follow up with them about it when I can.
 
Tough to say which is better at this point, so just support us on whichever platform you prefer
 
No app yet from what I've seen - hopefully we'll find out more soon. Unfortunately I can't comment on that. I have to assume they will have a mobile app as so much of the industry is going that way, but I can't say for sure!
 
 
All videos will be posted to YouTube after the delay, and timely content will be posted to both platforms at the same time.
Thank you! And thank you for the support!
 
I've already addressed the middle click issue with them - I hope it will be fixed soon as that is a pretty big issue.
 
All of our content will still be posted to YouTube, so you can still catch every one of our videos over there
 
LOL! I guess you could say that... The master race is used to waiting, right?... GTA5 anyone?... Sorry, too soon, too soon...
 
I'm hoping Vessel will address their quality issues soon.
 
Thank you for the support! It definitely was not easy, but we were either going to make it work or not support the platform at all. So we made it work!
But please make sure you post that info in http://bit.ly/linusgiveaway, we won't be counting entries from this thread as it is for feedback not the giveaway!
 
Thanks for your support!
Right now the improved quality on YouTube is a pretty nice addition. Would be nice to add that, but who knows how well that implementation would actually work.

LTT Scrapyard Wars, the Netflix Original series coming next?

It's like consoles vs. PCs, and LinusMediaGroup is Ubisoft. You're giving "Vessel peasants" access first, but at lower resolution and quality.

Thanks for everyone's comments. I also appreciate that everyone has been posting such constructive criticism rather than just silly rants.
The truth of the matter is that 99% of our viewers would have never noticed we were uploading earlier somewhere else if we didn't broadcast it.
Vessel is an extra thing, not a replacement to our existing youtube business.

Watched '5K Nvidia GeForce Titan X SLI  Performance Benchmarks' and 'Insane Storage Server - Fully 10 Gigabit Network, $1500 Switch' on vessel and wow the video quality on vessel is dreadful and there are no decent quality settings such as 480p, 720p, 1080p. I think I'll just watch your content on youtube even if it is delayed the video quality is a lot better.

everything I want to say has pretty much been said.
 
Videos are buffering like balls
 
Video quality even in HD is horrible
 
(can't open videos in new tab with mouse scroll button(small matter but can get annoying)
 
but yeah, I support Vessel and I really hope they will improve it

Some feedback
 
1. No Android app is a HUGE, HUGE letdown for me. I'm not gonna buy a new  phone just so that I can watch your videos on Vessel. When is it coming? Preferably more concret than "Soon" as that might mean a pretty wide range of things
 
2. No option to select quality? I really enjoyed when you started uploading content in 4k and 1440p on YouTube (as I have a 1440p monitor), and now the content is only in 720pish (That is what it at least looks to me). So do we have to wait to get to see the videos in good quality
 
3. Is Vessel using HTML5 or Flash for their videos. Pretty huge deal for me as HTML5 Videos has been way more stable than Flash

This is an actual bummer.  I swear, I use my chromecast more for LTT videos than anything else.  Hopefully Vessel's engineering team starts rolling out awesome video features and platform upgrades. 

Alright, so I would like to address a few things about the Vessel Change. I would like to start by saying that I am not opposed to Vessel, but there are a couple of things that I need to bring up.
 
1. In regards to switching to Vessel, some of us already have account. Many of us would not only like the one year of free Vessel, but also to show our support. How are we supposed to sign up with Vessel using your affilate link if we have an account, and get the free year?
 
2. This is an issue with Vessel. If I am paying for a service, I would like to think that I am getting a more premium one. However, currently the video quality on Vessel is horrendous, YouTube isn't known for its high quality, but Vessel makes it look amazing. I personally am reluctant to watch your new videos on Vessel, as the quality is really quite bad, and I feel with all the work that you put into production quality I am not doing your videos right, and I want the best experience watching them.
 
3. In regards to the player, no actual quality options? This is seriously a massive thing, I want to choose whether I am in 1080p or 360p myself, and I want to choose if I want to go up to 4K. Hell, I don't even know if it has 4K! While this is an issue with Vessel, as you are switching over to such a new platform it is one which becomes yours. 
 
My main complaints are not with your intentions from switching over, and I support you in it. However, if you and vessel are trying to get people to switch, I think that there needs to be a quality incentive, and not just a early access one. Vessel still feels very much in its beta stages, and needs to offer a better service to get people to switch over. I would be interested to see what all of you at LMG think about this, and if you have any idea if Vessel is planning on improving their video service (as it is what the website is for, after all). 
 
Good luck with the switch LMG!

First I wanted say that I have no problems with you guys enabling people to pay for early access to your videos. But as of now I see no reason to use vessel over YouTube. It looks to me like the "hd" videos on vessel are in 720p, that's a massive downgrade from the 4k and 1080p60 videos we have been getting on YouTube for awhile now. The interface of vessel could also use a lot of work, finding videos that I want to watch is much harder than on YouTube despite the fact that YouTube's interface isn't that good either. So I will not be using vessel over YouTube despite the free year and early access to videos until 4k is supported.

Try http://linustechtips.com/early
 
We expected their service to go down, so we added our own signup page. We will be passing on these database entries to them throughout the night and into tomorrow, and we're hoping that they will send account confirmations as soon as they can. Might take a bit longer, but at least we can still push signups through if their page goes down
 
I've already passed the feedback on to our Vessel rep. Being one of the first creators on the platform gives us a direct line to their creator support staff, who have been really helpful so far. I'll let you know if we hear back about this.
 
At the moment I think it is 1080p, but they have been really open to our suggestions for higher resolution and higher bitrate options. Not sure when they can implement those, but we will be some of the first to know when they do.

Does Vessel support 4k video? Just watching my first video on Vessel and it seems to be a pretty big quality drop from your guys' standard.