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@TVwazhere Corsair was initially at the top of my list for a quality PSU but I did a little more digging around since my last post and I found that EVGA's PSU's typically have better reviews and higher ratings on newegg. I've updated my part list to include the EVGA B3 even though the Antec EA Green has great reviews and a five egg rating on newegg out of 550+ reviews. Sleeved cables and modular or semi-modular would be nice but I'm willing to make the sacrifice for a truly quality component. How do you think the Corsair CX compares to the EVGA B3 and what are your thoughts on the Antec EA Green? The lower price for the Corsair is definitely a selling point. I wouldn't mind spending less money if the H110's are cheaper, most certainly if upgrading CPU's in the future is still an option with this chipset, but I'm still concerned with the incompatibility notice that PCPP gives me when I add one of them to my part list. Are there other chipsets to consider? If I'm upgrading the CPU in the future to one that I can overclock I'm not sure I want to skimp out on too many features. I appreciate that you found me a cheaper board but my other concern is 3 vs 6 audio ports on the IO. I realized that 5.1/7.1 audio is something I really want to include in this rig for a home theater system. The motherboard seems like one of the most complicated components to shop for. I apologize if this is becoming frustrating or irritating since my ideas are kind of evolving with this build as I continue to explore different avenues and possibilities. GPU cooling for the 1050's/1060's is duly noted. Another thing that has come up is an additional aspect of availability and cost for these components. I decided to strictly limit my purchases to newegg and amazon only, to save as much as possible on the price of shipping but also because I found that places like pc-canada only have a credit card payment method as I will be paying via paypal/interac. Given these circumstances I chose the Gigabyte 1050 Ti 4GB Windforce OC and I guess the EVGA 1060 3GB you listed is off the table for now since it isn't available on either newegg or amazon for a reasonable price at the moment. I hadn't considered a 1060 3GB before and I wasn't aware that a 3GB version existed until present but now I'm wondering how you think the two tiers compare and whether or not you think a different 1060 3GB is worth the extra $50 or so and whether or not a 1060 3GB would be overkill for the G4560. Speaking of unreasonably inflated; I was trying to find out just how inflated prices have really become and I discovered that my laptop is currently listed for right around double the price I paid for it almost five years ago. Currently $1100 CAD on amazon (Manufactured 2013). Even my old Dell is going for about $300 CAD on ebay (Manufactured 2004) Half the price that I paid for my laptop with almost a decade between them That's pretty incredible and kind of made me second guess this purchase/these purchases at this time. I found some bluetooth and wifi options but I discovered another availability issue, this time with the RAM. It seems that PCPP lists some items as available when they in fact are not which you will find once you visit the website(s) providing them. So given the criteria I'm going by; the cheapest RAM I could find from either newegg or amazon is the Crucial 8GB Single DDR4 2133 with only two left in stock apparently which is an additional $35 from the two Patriot 4GB 2400's. I'm not really concerned with the amount of space on the system as we use fairly large external drives. That's always something I can add later too if need be. Lastly; I was wondering why you guys do the "breakdown" for the parts list and I'm also wondering why you excluded the fans from the list. I guess I should also reiterate my budget to a maximum of about $900-$1000 CAD. The graphics card was just one of the things I really didn't want to cheap out on. My updated list: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/YntcZ8 PCPP indicates a price of $892.39 with the $20 rebate but the total amount I've calculated at checkout is $1,005.92 after taxes and shipping. I'd still like to try and shave down the price a little more.

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Sorry about that. I increased my budget and I was looking at all of the PSU calculators I could find but I'm having a hard time narrowing down how much power I actually need. Allot of these sites don't even list the CPU I'm using or the video card... I'm getting anything from 350W-550W which seems like a pretty substantial margin... I was going to go with 500 based on an estimated average of all the calculators but that seems like way too much. PCPP says I'm sitting at 203W and I figured 300W would be plenty but 380W is the lowest bronze rating I can find at a reasonable price. I figured I would salvage an older lower watt PSU but it seems the majority of these old cheap or throwaway PC's PSU's output are too small. I can't seem to find some middle ground. A little help here would be much appreciated as well as any other feedback you might have. https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/rbhh6X I decided I'd increase my budget and put this system together for my girlfriend as a birthday gift since her Mac book isn't keeping up with her anymore. I think I'll just scrounge around on ebay for old components to upgrade my outdated Dell to ease my boredom instead of building an entirely new system I don't really need. I can't give her a crusty old tower as a gift ya'know lol I'm sure you know what you're talking about but I'm not sure I want to take the risk, even if it's only time potentially wasted. I can upgrade CPU's with the B250 boards too apparently. I'm not entirely sure if I can do that with the H110's. I decided to go with what I believe to be one of the higher end 1050TI's based on some of the things I'm seeing in these videos. What do you guys think? I also just realized that this system needs wifi and bluetooth. I know that you can attach adapters to the MOBO but do I need to do this? Don't allot of motherboards have these things built into them by default or is this the only solution?

Cool, thanks guys. How's this: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/x4msbj

Even if it's $50 that's still better than $115. I didn't realize I could get windows any cheaper. Thanks for the tip! The 1050's seem to have lower clock speeds, higher power draw, and twice the memory. Is it really worth double the price for lower clock speeds? "Some Intel H110 chipset motherboards may need a BIOS update prior to using Kaby Lake-S CPUs. Upgrading the BIOS may require a different CPU that is supported by older BIOS revisions." I don't think I have a different CPU that could be used to update the BIOS.

It's in the list: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/YDRFf7/evga-geforce-gt-1030-2gb-sc-low-profile-video-card-02g-p4-6333-kr

How about this for a budget build? (CAD) https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/kcn4Fd 2 Core 4 Threads LED Strip on MOBO 1540 MHz Video Card I want to try to knock a few bucks off by scouting out an old secondhand Dell Dimension instead of buying a brand new mini case and power supply. An optical drive or two and various other parts would be a bonus as well. https://www.kijiji.ca/v-desktop-computers/edmonton/computer-for-sale/1323003278?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true I have two 15 year old (give or take) Dell Dimension desktops, a 4700 and a 4700C, both of which have encountered issues over the years but I've managed to allocate pieces from one another to maintain one fully functional system which is mostly made up of the 4700 and sits in its tower since the 4700C is mostly unmanageable because it has sustained most of the wear and tear and incompatible for the vast majority of components. There used to be three of which my dad bought for himself my sister and I one year. I'm pretty sure mine was a 4600 but it was sold long ago for a good price and the remaining two have been donated to me since they have long since been outdated. So essentially the inspiration for this build is a sentiment to our outdated Dell Dimension series's as a kind of sleeper budget build that matches or comes in under the price point of these systems at the time they were purchased while exceeding their performance. I'm wondering how much of an upgrade this new system would be but I'm also wondering how this build would stand up against my Acer Aspire E1-572G-6854 laptop which I paid about $100 more for. I still have one of each piece of the peripherals which includes the 4700C's 75Hz 17" monitor with the wired Dell keyboard, and mouse as well as the 4700's sound system to match. Advice? Suggestions? Doubts? Recommendations?

Sorry I edited. I'd say 16GB of RAM at 2133-2400 is perfectly fine. You can always upgrade later and that one tier up in memory speed gives you something to play around with as a first timer. I think what Nex is trying to say is that with 6 cores and hyper-threading you would be better utilizing the CPU with more RAM speed and memory on the Ryzen. Don't be fooled by what seems to be a similar CPU at a lower price point though, AMD fills a niche but personally I'm not sold just yet.

I'm talking about hard disk space and RAM speed not RAM memory. Yeah I didn't realize people had replied ahead of me. Took me a little while to put the parts together. I'm also sourcing for components around the same price range for my own build. I put that one together for you given the components you specified but check out my build to see where you could save some money. https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/ Coffee lake are apparently better at keeping cool therefor better over-clockers. RAM is apparently a pain to overclock if it is even achievable given your circumstances and components. Ryzen apparently run hotter than Intel but it seems like you want more of a gaming station than a work station.

Have you considered an i5 Coffee Lake over an i7 Kaby Lake? Your power supply wattage seems excessive. Do you really need that much disk space? I feel the RAM speed is excessive as well if not unnecessary. I would worry more about performance than aesthetics like tempered glass. I think you're going to find it difficult to build under $1700 with what you've included so far. https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/vPj9qk $2000-$2500 CAD

You're looking at about $275-$375 CAD for the cheapest displays on newegg. https://www.newegg.ca/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100166066 600417886&IsNodeId=1&Description=144 hz&bop=And&Order=PRICE&PageSize=96

Shouldn't the FPS be higher on a lower resolution display?

Like the title says; I'm a newb, so I want to make sure I have this all figured out before March and know exactly what to expect. This is all pretty overwhelming for me at this point. Messed up how? Kaby? Coffee? I'd rather buy something powerful that has its price reduced over time than something new for the price listed at launch if that makes any sense. By plenty do you mean too much? Intel - Core i7-6800K 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor was the alternative I was looking at. I'm not very familiar with AMD. I noticed that with some GTX 1080 GPU's I get a message that reads: "2 additional PCI-Express pcie6-pin power connectors are needed". Does this mean that I would have to select another mother board? Thanks for the input.

I've been using PC Part Picker to find components that are actually available and so far it's been a pretty great help with the compatibility check. I'll probably be buying the components in March when I get my tax return. I'm from Canada so I'm looking at components in CAD. My budget is between $1000-$2000 and I don't want to spend any more than that. The total system cost right now is about $1900 and I'm just trying to whittle away at that price as much as I can trying to figure out where I can save some money and/or make compromises. https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/FGPY6X I want to use this system for a variety of things and I want to be able to upgrade later on down the road. I'm looking for a balanced build that can do anything I want it to adequately or better rather than one or two particular things excellently. I plan to be using the system on a 1080p 60hz display and I don't really have any interest in 4K at the moment but that's one of the things I'd like to leave open to the system later on. I want to be able to game but most importantly I want to be able to stream and create content. I usually game on my xbox so the gaming aspect isn't as high a priority as the digital design or streaming. If I could preview my projects in after effects in full resolution without waiting or skipping or waiting an hour or more to export any given project that would be ideal. I plan on buying and running windows 10. I don't need a mouse, keyboard, headset, external storage, speakers, fan controller, ups, etc. I don't really care about how loud the system is or aesthetic type stuff like LED's (RGB). I'm also not really interested in liquid cooling. I would like to attempt overclocking the system in the future as well after I have it built and I'm familiar with the system and its components but I would like a system that performs without it "as is". I would also like to leave the possibility of an SLI bridge open to the future. I don't need a ton of internal memory since I have a fairly large external drive. A couple hundred GBs or less seems like plenty since I like to keep my systems pretty clean and my files backed up and that's something I would like to upgrade later if need be. I plan on buying a new power supply when I upgrade so I only need enough to power what I'm buying in the initial purchase. If I can reduce the price any further I'd like to add a read/write optical drive. Some of the things I'm wondering about is whether I should go for less Ghz and more cores for a similar price, an extra fan or two, 2133 RAM vs higher memory speeds, the amount of RAM, SSD interface & cache, and overall the efficiency and compatibility of the system based on the individual components. Is the processor and graphics card beefy enough or too beefy? Do I need 6 Gb/s and a 512mb cache on the SSD? Is my power supply adequate? If I get another fan or two and an optical drive will my power supply be able to incorporate them? What size fans do I need for this case? Is the motherboard lacking anything? What benefits and pitfalls am I looking at here so far?