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48 minutes ago, Grand Admiral Thrawn said:

Were you able to note what error code did the blue screen contain?

There were 2 different codes, dont remember them. Also the pc does not even get to the bios, and when it does the crash happens even inside the bios

So, I pretty much singled out which component is faulty, but I just wanted to see if im not missing anything.

My pc was working fine, until I had 2 blue screens in a row followed by no POST. I tried reconnecting everything, tried turning it on without each ram stick, without the HDD, SSD... And nothing.

So the next day I try to turn it on and it works, UNTIL I connect the ethernet cable: instant crash. I manage to boot it again, and as soon as I connect the cable it crashes and cant POST anymore. The mouse and keyboard light up, but the screen is black (the monitor and gpu are working).

After some time I manage to boot it again into the BIOS, and when I connect the ethernet cable it shuts down again (at this point I tried another cable, AND the cable wasnt connected to anything).

Can it be anything other than the motherboard causing this? When I manage to turn it on I can run benchmarks and play, but its hard to make it boot. 

On 9/25/2020 at 11:39 AM, minibois said:

The game is not out yet, but if we can assume 'Recommended specs' is for 1080p60fps Ultra (which I would expect), this build would run the game at 1080p60fps easily.

https://support.cdprojektred.com/en/cyberpunk/pc/sp-technical/issue/1556/cyberpunk-2077-system-requirements

Absolutely DOUBT that the recommended specs are for 1080p60fps ultra. For sure its for 1080p, but I would guess with lower settings (not low per se, but maybe medium/high mix)

But this pc seens very capable to do 1080p with high settings (ultra is stupid and pointless) with possibly well above 60 fps.

I have no idea about that...

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CPU may be overheating, but thats ra

extreme. I had this problem when my CPU was hitting 110°C.

Most likely the PSU is going bad or it is bellow the adequate wattage for the pc on full load.

Do you have a reason to upgrade? Because as far as I can tell, of you are having a good experience with the pc, there is no need to change anything. Just dont buy stuff you dont need just because you feel like you have to.

That being said, 120mm AIOs usually suck, so if the temps are not to your liking, just get a better one.

15 minutes ago, AndreiArgeanu said:

A windows reinstall could fix the issue you're having, potentially if you have 2 drive in your system install windows on the drive without windows and remove the one with windows already installed to see if it changes anything. If not, then plug your drive back in and delete the new windows installation.

The other solution to this is getting a separate network card, like an expansion card for your system, however it is not guaranteed to fix your issues.

I had the same issue with my last pc, after changing the mobo+cpu+ram the problem persisted. then I formated my SSD and did a fresh install of windows, same problem.

So, basically I have been having this problem for ages, after being on for some time the pc starts to lag (the cursor, audio cracks and stutters, video lags and stutters). I noticed it is really bad when there is a lot of network traffic, like torrents or lots of tabs being opened. So I saw on the monitor a high usage of cpu by "system interrupts" and after some time, got the DPC latency checker and checked drivers.

By disabling the realtek network driver, the stutters go away and the dpc checker also shows a big improvement - so I concluded that the realtek driver is the culprit. The image shows the imediate drop on latency as soon as I disable the driver.

BUT I JUST CANT FIX IT!!!

Disabling the driver means I have no internet, and I tried different versions of the driver (2015,2017,2018, 2020) and the problem persists. I tried disabling some WOL settings of the driver, I tried everything I could find, and the problem just persists. im honestly feeling out of options, I have this problem for years and the only "fix" I found is reseting the pc, and when it starts again, I reset it again. it works, but it sucks to have to restart the pc multiple times per day.

Well, to me the pc is a "new pc" when J change the core: mobo+cpu(+memory usually too).

Since I never do pointless upgrades, the core always change at the same time (ram being the exception, because of failures or expanding) 

The secondary components (hdd, psu, etc) can change all the time because of failures, or carry on to new pcs - to me they are almost like peripherals regarding to the pc "identity'.

The exception is the GPU, which can be VERY relevant. So the gpu is like a "1.5 version" situation, for example I went from a 750ti to a 960 and THEN I changed my pc, and later the 960 got out and a rx 580 went in. 3 gpus, but only 2 pcs - the 960 was in both the old and the new pc.

17 minutes ago, LurkerKing said:

The RTX 2080 is common for most lower-cost gaming PCs? LOL

Of course they are, I have a Ryzden and a GRTX 2095Ti-tan in my budget build.

I have most of my legal games on steam, but I prefer buying on GOG when possible because it has no DRM and it pays the devs more iirc. also its always good to try to avoid the titan sometimes, even though its convenient to have it all on the same platform.

Tl;dr:

Esd CAN kill your components, but realistically it wont. Taking minor precautions is enough, and if you are unsure or have really expensive components, just discharge yourself from time to time and avoid buing on carpet, etc.

I remember a jayztwocents video where he actively tries to kill stuff with ESD, you can see the arcs from his figer to the components, and iirc nothing dies. Not even usb ports. That means stuff cant die? NO, but it shows how resistant your hardware is.

For me, the fact that tech reviewers "mistreat" their hardware is good, because it makes me less afraid to damage stuff since they basically spit and kick the hardware and it still works. 

ALSO: A BIT unrelated, but can we agree that water kills hardware? Cool. Everybody knows that, everybody agrees that water is waaaaaaay more dangerous than esd. So I didnt find the jayztwocents video about esd, but I found this one. It goes without saying that this is insane and nobody should try it, but the video card just refuses to die (after the video he flashes a new bios and it works):

https://youtu.be/iJUl_IqDbNA

3 hours ago, Dabombinable said:

Far better than my desktop with its 22" 1080p 100ppi screen. Phones BTW just use the screen resolution (and therefore ppi) as marketing. You certainly don't need and can't make proper use of the super high resolutions on them (plus it kills the battery faster).

True. I honestly prefer 1080p than 720p, the difference is really small, but since 1080p is mainstream, its fine.

But on my 1080p phone I cant make out individual pixels even looking really close

9 hours ago, SlimyPython said:

@schwellmo92

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not a really great PPI

Not a great PPI, an AMAZING PPI.

Waaaaay better than the normal 24" 1080p screens, which are not bad at all.

I love low res for small devices, a 1080p phone and a 4k one are literally identical, as we are humans with eyes and not microscopes.

From low to medium/high it is very noticeable in some games, and in some settings. The water in tw3 for example, its way better on high than on low or medium. It depends a lot on the game and the setting, but a lot of settings usually have minir differences and a lot of impact on performance.

As for ultra, its just a "tank performance, change nothing else" button. Never use ultra, unless your fps is maxed out anyways... Ultra is just stupid.

I think the "problem" with rgb is how it is marketed. Its always rainbow puke and crazy effects, but in reality this is just to showcase what the product can do. The "right" use of rgb should be way less distracting, because you dont want a blinking rainbow next to you when you are looking at the monitor.

That being said, I still prefer no LEDs, with just a few exceptions.

Is the gpu overclocked? Maybe its stable on most tests, but not on csgo.

Also, it may be a driver problem, try DDU and reinstall the latest driver.

ALSO, check your PSU voltages - the 12V rail specifically. If it is below 11.4V, than it is a problem and you have to change your PSU.

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any GPU for example doesnt cost more than about 30$ to manufacture yet they can have a retail price of even 1000$.

Sorry if someone adressed this already, but WHAT?!?

Dude, this is so wrong that is hurts. Is not only the materials that cost money, R&D is also huge. Do you think Ryzen took little time and money to be done? AMD could have gone bankrupt it ryzen wasnt competitive.

Also, there GPUs have really small margins, unlike keyboards for example. Thats why you dont see a 500$ GPU on sale for 250$, but you see fairly often keyboards and mice with 30-50% discount.

There is a video by Gamers Nexus (I cant find it right now) that explains with good detail the cost of components and why the price of the VEGA cards werent competitive (spoiler: they were so expensive that to be competitive, AMD would have to sell at a loss)

7 minutes ago, Drakenthagod said:

what would be the better bet between upgrading the motherboard and then a new CPU or just getting the 8350. For money/performance ratio like the best bang for buck per say

I couldnt say... I think you could get a used 83xx for VERY cheap, so for me thats good value, since if you change the processor for a modern one you have to get a new mobo, new ram...

15 minutes ago, Fasauceome said:

Dota shouldn't be suffering on that hardware but eso, and rust especially, are probably having a hard time with that CPU. Unfortunately you don't really have an upgrade path to anything modern without getting a new motherboard. If you currently have a decent motherboard the only route for immediate performance increase is an overclock.

That /\.

Or maybe buy a used 8300(or 8350, or any variaton)

For normal human applications, a cheap sata ssd will be almost identical to a expensive nvme one. Still, the nvme should not be worse in any way, if that is what you are saying.

You can change the 2600x for a 2600, and OC manually. Idk how much price difference there is, so it may or it may not be worth it.

4 hours ago, MadAnt250 said:

It is becoming the norm and sometimes gaming and multitasking at the same time can use more than 8-10Gb of RAM. 

Sure, but overall it would be better to have 8Gb of RAM and a rx 580, for example. Clearly he has a budget system, so thats why I tought it was a bit weird.

I personally have a rx 580 and a r5 2600 with 12Gb RAM, and never used more than 10Gb, but OP said he cares a lot about aesthetics so I wonder if he wanted to have 2 RAM sticks for that reason

There is a few ways to get any of the attributes. I dont know what you can do for honor specifically, but just search on GOOGLE that you will find it easily.

Dont worry about bottleneck, its pointless 99% of the time.

But just out of curitosity, why 16Gb of RAM? its by far the most overkill part of the system, and it is weird considering that the CPU and GPU are budget ones