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I cant say about how you will feel with a new system. But X58 is still a dessent al around platform. Im rocking X58 with an I7 980X also has 6 cores as your xeon. Your Xeon shut also cut hit 4 GHz+ if its properly cooled. 3.5 GHz is nothing for an X58 xeon. I have seen many go well above 4 GHz and 4.4 GHz is not impossible. Just take a look a my CPU and that is only aircooled. I will deffently try and fix the problem you have. I cut might be a dead Bios battery, have you tryed change that? Meaning does bios loos settings every time you reboot or shutdown and then bootup later? About sata 3. You have options with X58. Option 1. Get a second gen X58 mobo, they have sata 3 and USB 3.0 onboard. But be aware of that onboard sata 3 is not true sata speed since they run on a marvel controller and not Intels own. Speed you can espect is read about 400 MB/s and whrite is about 250 MB/s. My mobo is by the way Asus P6X58D Premium Option 2: Get a PCIe sata 3 adaptor but besure it runs X2 or X4 if you want full speed on PCIe 2. I have testet adaptors with X1 and they can not come much over 400 MB/s (true sata 3 speed is about 580 Mb/s). X4 adaptors can be pretty priced so that might not be the bedst option. I used this adaptor: https://www.asus.com/dk/Motherboard-Accessory/U3S6/ before i swapped to a second gen X58 mobo that have sata 3 and USB 3.0 in the same adaptor. It where awesome little adaptor and it where cheap to. But it runs X1 so you will not have full true sata 3 speed with it. Option 3: forget sata 3 and think M.2 NVMe SSD in steed. But be aware you can not just swap any M.2 SSD in your mobo if you want to boot from it. If you want boot, then you are stuck with Samsung 950 PRO 256 GB/512 GB. You can exspect speed of op to about 1700 MB/s on PCIe 2 cause PCIe is limited in speed to around 2000 MB/s at X4 and most M.2 PCIe adaptors run with X4. I dit this and its awesome. You will also need an M.2 PCIe adaptor. Because you can run this SSD on old X58 is that samsung has been so kind to build in a Legacy mode in the firmware of the SSD and that makes so old bios mobo can se it as a IDE drive and by that boot from it aswell and it works great and pretty easy. No Samsung 960 EVO/PRO does not have legacy mode so thats a no go. I have asked samsung support about it. 950 PRO is only option if you want M.2 SSD to boot and use as C-drive. Option 4. you stick to your plan and upgrade to shinny new hardware. You can take a look of my pc under here if you want to. Spec on my pc is. I7 980X @ 4.25 GHz Noctua NH-D14 CPU cooler with 3 fans mounted on it. Asus P6X58D Premium second gen X58 board with onboard sata 3 and USB 3.0 12 GB Corsair DDR3 1600 MHz triple channel ram (6 x 2 GB sticks) 2 x GTX 970 in sli Samsung 950 PRO 256 GB M.2 NVMe SSD C-drive Samsung EVO 850 250 GB SSD Crucial MX300 275 GB SSD Crucial M4 64 GB SSD (old C-drive) WD Velociraptor 150 GB 10000 RPM HDD WD caviar black 1 TB HDD WD AV-GP GREEN 2 TB HDD Windows 10 PRO 64 bits This is how my pc runs now. This is how my drives compare together. Remember what i told about marvel sata 3 onboard and limitation on speed on PCIe 2 and thats why my sata SSD and M.2 SSD is not running at there full max speeds, but i an still pretty happy with it. This is the speed you can exspect whit an PCIe sata 3 adaptor that only runs X1 on PCIe 2. Thats why i will reccomend one that runs at least X2 or X4 if you want full sata 3 speed. Here it is my Crucial MX 300 275 GB SSD running on the that pci adaptor and as you see its not full speed and because of that i choose the M.2 SSD and thats is great. Two 3dmark firestrike runs so you have some thing to compare with. CPU at 4.25 Ghz and 4.77 GHz Bonus bios, boot and shutdown video with my M.2 SSD. So you can se what that can do for you. But you off cause need to get that problem you have fixed first. Hope you do cause X58 is still awesome i think at least.

Im shocked that you say that I7 920 dit not hold up so well as that I7 3770K. I had a I7 920 @ 4.1 GHz with 12 GB triple channel ram and two GTX 970 sli setup until as late as February this year and that setup holdet up very well even in the latest games as BF1 and i am still on X58 just with an I7 980X now. I am sure if you had overclokked that I7 920 and swapped that old 9800GT out with a better GPU it would also had hold up much longer or dit the cpu or motherboard die? But why 32 GB of ram. Only make sence for a Ramdisk? This is how my old system where and as it is now. Old I7 920 And with my current I7 980 at 4.25 GHz and 4.77 GHz a more detailed screenshot.

Well i adopted ssd ealy on. Got my first ssd back in 2011 with and crucial c300 64 gb and i never locked back again on hdd for os drive. Trust me when you first have tried ssd you will never want to return to hdd ever again. Since then i am now owner of 4 ssd. An old crucial m4 64 gb now retired os drive and used for older games only because its old so i dont trust this drive any for importent files. Besides that samsung evo 850 250 gb and crucial mx300 275 gb only for games. Main os/c drive is a samsung 950 pro m.2 nvme 256 gb ssd and is also used as a game drive but mainly for os. All put in a old x58 system and works flawless. If you havent tryed an ssd yet and are still on hhd. Its about dam time you try an ssd.

It is not that cheap, but a I7 920 does indeed overclock well if they are properly cooled. They can hit above 4 GHz. But notice that there are two revision of 920 andthat will be CO and DO. DO is the bedst overclokker becuase that revision needs les voltage and by that oveclock better, but it still needs good cooling To be fair if you bay it, you can sell that I7 920 and get a 6 core xeon for more or less the same money I7 920 can be sold for. Just a hint and Xeon is also a great overclokker. You might want to read and take a look here. See post i made longer down in the thread. That can properly answer your about OC I7 920.

Yes a new cooler is a good start. Aw that was else a great deal with that Xeon and 6 cores nice. About Evo hyper 212. Its better with a rated max TDP of 180 watt, but i will say you need something that can handle up to 200 watt like Arctic Cooling Freezer 13. These old chips does run hot when oc if not properly cooled. https://www.arctic.ac/eu_en/freezer-13.html

Lets make one thing clear. All X58 CPU can overclock and K model does not apply to X58 since they come out before intel invented K model based CPU´s. its more does your motherboard support overclock and as far i can see it does. Besides that X58 CPU´s needs good cooling if you overclock them. Cheap ass cooling is no go. Lucked CPU´s just oveclock on the bus side and not multiplier while X or extreme models can overclock on bus side aswell as multiplier. I can confirm that since i have oc an I7 920 to 4.4 GHz (4.1 for dauly use) and right not i have an I7 980X overclock to 4.25 GHz for daily use and for benchmark i can take her all the way to 4.77 GHz. OP im sorry to say that your cooler is not sufficiant for overclock an I7 950. As told they need good cooling. I7 950 stock is a 130 watt TDP CPU and that cooler you have is Recommended for TDP up to 115 watt with a Max. Cooling Performance of 150 watt. So with a cpu that have 130 TDP stock that cpu cooler is already near its limit so i think ilde temp at 40-45 is alright. But for overclock deffently not recommended. There you will ned a better cpu cooler. https://www.arctic.ac/eu_en/freezer-7-pro-rev-2.html To give you and idea of what cooling you need, i can tell you what coolers i am using. For my dear old and now parted I7 920 a thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme with artic silver 5 thermal paste and two high RPM/presure 120 MM fans (silverstone FM 121). For my current I7 980X i use a noctua NH-D14 with Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut Thermal Paste and replaced the two stock fans with 3 x high RPM/presure 120 MM fans (silverstone FM 121). I will recommended a Noctua NH-U9B SE2 or something with the same or better performence. These where the settings for 4 GHz i used on my I7 920 but remember no cpu overclock the same so your cpu might need more or less voltage for the same overclock. Bios is on a Asus X58 motherboard by the way so it may differ from gigabyte´s bios. Used this guide back then i started oc my I7 920 cpu and you shut cut use it two. Just take in the counter for that your cpu has a few ekstra multiplier that will increase clock speed even more for every time you increase bus speed. http://whirlpool.net.au/wiki/rmp_i7_920_overclocking As a last thing a few screenshots of my system with I7 920 and my current I7 980X just to prove that lucked aswell as unlocked X58 cpu can overclock. and my I7 980X first ass it runs for daily use and then the max oc i got out of it. This shut hoppefully guide you in the right way. But a better cpu cooler is needed if you want to oc that I7 950 to where its really fun like 4 GHz+.

that will be games like crysis 3, BF1, metro games, far cry series, DOOM so yeah mostly FPS games but also games like GTA V.

No i dont have memory problems now for 1080P or 2K gaming. Its more when moving to 4K that might be a problem i am concerned for.

Great to here. Well then 4K might be possible then on X58. now i will deffently try out GTX 1080 TI first on my current system before getting new CPU/mobo. Thanks for your response.

ah i see. I have no plans for VR yet. That is to exspensive so i will wait for prices to go down and mature when it comes to teknologi. So 12 GB is still fine then i asume.

True if its a Quad-core cpu, but as told my I7 980X is a 6 core cpu with 12 MB of cashe. http://ark.intel.com/products/47932/Intel-Core-i7-980X-Processor-Extreme-Edition-12M-Cache-3_33-GHz-6_40-GTs-Intel-QPI Does any one have exspirence with 4K on X58?

Jesus why is it every dam time an Intel/AMD war begins just because i or another say i dont like AMD or intel for thats matter. I just asked if X58 would be suficiant for 4K or not and AMD is not an option, thats it. And yet again it end up as a dissusion thread and totally off topic. If you cant handle some one not liking AMD, intel or nvidia, then just leave the thread its that simple. Back to topic. I decided to wait an se what X299 has to offer and when just try out a GTX 1080 TI with my current system for now and them simulate 4K with nvidia DSR on my current screen to get an idea how that runs and if that feel alright, stick to that and if not se what X299 has to offer when it comes out. That seems most logic right now to me.

its not my plan to get 6900X but a 6 core X99 cpu. That shut be enoufh for me. But i might wait cause as Princess Cadence says if X299 is only a few monfh away, that might be the bedst choise. AMD is just not my thing and can we please leave it at that. Im not gonna get a ryzen pc. They dosent overcock to my satifaction and that is a al ready told very importen to me. To all please no more AMD. That desicion is final.

Hmm some thing dosent make sense to me. Why only a GTX 1080 and a Xeon 5680? I think 1080 Ti is a better chiose for 4K and i al ready have a 6 core X58 cpu. 24 GB ram yeah that might be a good idea since som games has recommended 16 GB now and DDR3 memory is cheap now.

I am well aware that 970 is not for 4K. That is also why i planning on at least getting a new GPU. Oh a new chipset again intel. Well that might be better waiting for that then since i use to keep my systems for a longer period before retire them. I will be thinking on that for sure. AMD is just not my thing. They dosent overclock that great and that is an importent thing for me and as far i have seen ryzen is not so great in games compared to intel.

I cant deside if its time to let my old X58 system go or i just shut keep it a while longer and maybe just upgrade GPU. Main reason for upgrade is 4K gaming in a very near future, right now i gaming in 2K or 1920 x 1200 but after i come home again later this year from studying in a nother country i want a new 4K monitor and for that i want to get my pc ready for that task now. System spec is a following. I7 980X @ 4.25 GHz cooled by an Noctua NH-D14 and 3 120 MM fans and thermal grizzly kryonaul thermal paste ASUS ASUS P6X58D PREMIUM second gen X58 with USB 3.0 and sata 3. 12 GB triple channel DDR3 1600 MHz corsair memory (6 x 2 GB) Samsung 950 PRO 256 GB M.2 NVMe SSD for OS and games Crusial M4 64 GB SSD for games (my old OS drive thats now has been retired) SAMSUNG EVO 250 GB SSD for games CRUCIAL MX300 275 GB SSD for games 2 x WD Velociraptor 150 GB 10000 RPM in software raid 0 for older games. WD Caviar Black 1 TB for storage WD AV-GP 2 TB for storage 2 x Zotac GTX 970 in sli Thermaltake ToughPower 1500 Watt PSU its is all put in a Antec Twelve Hundred case. Windows 10 PRO 64 bits OS Im thinking my self a X99 based system if i change my current X58 setup and a GTX 1080 Ti (later get another used 1080 TI for sli and then i shut have desent power for 4K). So what you guys say. Keep X58 and just upgrade GPU or slaugther piggy bank and get a X99 based system. To be fair im not much in to AMD so that is not my plan to get.

No other that have tried out M.2 SSD on older systems?

Normal yes you cant boot, but if you have a drive with legacy mode, you can boot from it. Se my post above.

No not with any M.2 SSD. You need a m.2 SSD with legacy mode build in its firmware and there are not many of them that have it. Only two i now of has it. Samsung 950 PRO i use my self and have seen other report that Kingston HyperX Predator shut work also, but can not comfirm that. Besides that you need an PCIe M.2 adaptor. Legacy mode alows old non UEFI bios motherboard to see the SSD as an IDE drive and by that makes it possible to boot from but only in AHCI mode (raid dosent work). Non legacy mode m.2 SSD will ether not work at all or can only be used as an storege drive for files and games. But to prove M.2 SSD with legacy mode can work. Here is my own system And a video. Not the bedst but show what its sopose to show.

Last week i took the step to M.2 SSD on my old X58 system and it nice. No more crappy sata 2 og 3 speed. Just wanted to here it other had done the same and what do you think of M.2 SSD?

Overclocking on X58 is not that hard. But you need good cooling (a cheap air cooler like Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo, is no go). Overclocking on X58 is on BCLK on less you have an unlocket cpu like I7 975X/980X and I7 990X. When that is said x58 oc best on BCLK any way. That comming from one that have oc an I7 920 up to 4.4 GHz and now a I7 980X up to 4.77 GHz. Even throw I7 980X has unlocket multiplier i endet up disable turbo mode and oc on BCLK alone. That gave by far the bedst result for me. To give you and idea of what cooling you need i cooled my I7 920 CPU with a 4.1 GHz oc for 24/7 use with an Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme and two 120 MM fans. And my current I7 980X @ 4.25 GHz is cooled by an Noctua NH-D14 with 3 120 MM fans mounted (yes 3 fans). With these coolers and oc i cut keep the core temp at max 70 C that is safe. critical temp for X58 CPU´s 85-90 C but every thing over 80 C is to high. Here is 3dmark firestrike score from my setups old I7 920 and my current I7 980X with is a lovely CPU to OC and use. This OC guide is for I7 920 and the one i used back when i Wahs noob my self on oc on X58, but besides 133 MHz clock frekvens and one multiplier more. Your I7 930 is the same as an I7 920. http://whirlpool.net.au/wiki/rmp_i7_920_overclocking these image under here is the settings i used for my I7 920 cpu on a asus motherboard for a 4 GHz overclock. That can might help you to get yours up to speed. But remember you can not just copy voltage since every cpu overclock differently when it comes to needed voltage. This shut be a great help and start for your oc adventure. Good luck.

Yeah as already told. That is turbo boost in action. This Xeon CPU can boost up to 3.8 GHz depending on work load (how many cores/threads that is in use), heat and power consumption. These tree things decide when or when not the cpu are in turbo mode and how hig it will boost to. https://ark.intel.com/products/80910/Intel-Xeon-Processor-E3-1231-v3-8M-Cache-3_40-GHz

Good old X58 is not bad. X58 performence great counter its age if you overclock the crap out of it. First i had a 4 core I7 920 oc, but not so long a go i swapped it out with an I7 980X cpu and yes X58 is most fun with 6 cores when ever its a I7 or a Xeon cpu.. Thats still a great setup with two GTX 970 in sli and 12 GB triple channelmemory for 1080P gaming. Take a look at my system first with I7 920 and them with I7 980X. This are the clocks i run my system at for every day use. I7 980X again but abuse, kicket and overclock to 4.77 GHz.

Good old X58 can still deliver a nasty bite if you clock them properly. I7 980X @ 4.77 GHz Single thread: 1716 Multi thread: 11541

Just a heads up as an ekstra service from my first post. About that intel dx58so motherboard. Be sure to use only the 3 blue memory slots cause X58 is triple channel for bedst support and by that the optimal to use is a triple channel memory kit with 3 x 4 GB modules (you can use the black slot also but that is not optimal performence wise). The mobo also support overclock but what i can se around the web, this motherboard overclock potentiale is more limited than other more hig-end boards. So it may limit your oc more than most other boards. Besides that, it is still a good deal.