Welp looks like a time to buy, unless it is that time of year, when the market crashes.

it's so hard to say @Origami Cactus I've been thinking about buying AMD or NVIDIA a couple times now but it just seems so risky and unpredictable. Even Linus and Luke say they don't own any tech stock for that reason. I'm not sure if there is an actual recession incoming in europe as some people are saying, but if there is e slight decrease in purchasing power "luxury products" like the current RTX line are the first thing that people are gonna save money on and not buy. I know NVIDIA has a lot of professional customers as well but the bulk is still us consumers. AMD might be in a better position with their growing server market share but I still feel that most of this is pure chance in how the stock will develop. Then again, that seems to be the case with many stocks...

They are so dumb...just remove 150$ on the 2080ti launch price and 100$ on the 2080 prices...and the situation would be completely different...nvidia is too greedy and focused on increasing prices each generation...today you can get a RTX 2060 (a low end card) for the price of that of a GTX 780 (a high end card) only a few years ago..it's RIDICULOUS.

@i_build_nanosuits I agree, and this is also the reason why I believe the newly announced Radeon VII should have MSRP of $599 not $699... I can only partly justify that price with the development costs of 7nm and 16GBs of HBM2 which GN found to be quite expensive, it's still too much IMO.

I think AMD should have ditched HBM memory for now...it's neat, but it's not worth the price...GDDR6 is plenty fast enough and it's much cheaper...imagine a version of this card with 8GB GDDR6 instead...cut a fair chunk of the production cost...AMD is still making the same profit margin on the cards, they can sell them for 499$ instead of 699$...everybody wins...

@i_build_nanosuits As far as i can tell, AMD needs the HBM to keep it's gpu feed with it's massive bandwidth, without HBM, the card would use more power and would have less performance.

@i_build_nanosuits From the video that I've seen some time ago, Steve from GN verified that AMD needed to use HBM for Vega because of how the architecture & memory structure is designed, Vega despite already having HBM2 with a lot of bandwidth greatly benefits from overclocking the memory so I'm almost sure that's the reason why AMD actually doubled the bandwidth (which is followed by capacity because they had to double the amount of HBM2 stacks to achieve double the bandwidth)

I'd like to see a cheaper, ~400-450ish model equipped with GDDR6 that replaces Vega 56 though as well!