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There are also other components on the PCB that need cooling besides the core. You see stuff like the Kraken G10 sporting a fan on the rear to blow air over the VRMs and memory even though the AIO H2O cooler sits on the core.

Thank you! Which is why I can't stand overclocked (past factory overclock) GPU comparisons.

Regardless of processing power too. The ultimate factor is what games. There is a big difference between 4k League of Legends and 4k Battlefield 4.

Take out both sticks and stick one in. See if it boots and works. Then replace with the other stick and retry. If both work try in different DIMM slots to see if one slot died. If everything still works hit them with a memtest. If still nothing try malware bytes or bit defender for the malware side.

What operating system and bit version?

Asrock, Asus, MSI, EVGA. I no longer buy Gigabyte boards after 3 different boards with various issues. The GPUs have been fine for me so far. Gigabyte 990FX UD3 vrm issues despite 8+2 power phase for FX 8150. GA F2A75M D3H blue screens when opening Gigabyte related apps. 3 fresh installs and no change. Occasionally loses all drives connected to it. Drives have worked fine on another PC for a year now. GA Z97MX gaming 5 onboard audio acts up. Thinks ghost devices connect and disconnect despite cleaning out the 3.5 jacks, driver troubleshooting, and 3 months of debugging attempts.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant CPU: Intel Core i3-4130T 2.9GHz Dual-Core Processor ($119.95 @ SuperBiiz) Motherboard: ASRock H97M-ITX/AC Mini ITX LGA1150 Motherboard ($82.98 @ Newegg) Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($30.99 @ Newegg) Storage: Crucial MX100 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($64.95 @ SuperBiiz) Case: Silverstone ML03B HTPC Case ($59.99 @ SuperBiiz) Power Supply: EVGA 430W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply ($27.99 @ Newegg) Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.78 @ Directron) Keyboard: Logitech K400 Wireless Slim Keyboard w/Touchpad ($24.99 @ Amazon) Total: $431.62 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-03-26 11:35 EDT-0400

Do you want the ability to play any games natively on it? @Supermast Also please follow your posts using the follow this topic button in the top right corner.

I don't care for Vessel. If videos aren't on Youtube then I'll probably just not watch them (in reference to a hypothetical scenario in which any of my current Youtube subscriptions completely jump ship). I don't care for Vessel's UI. The homepage is mess of thumbnails that I don't want to dig through. I have Youtube's my subscription page bookmarked and can see what all my subs have posted in chronological order. I haven't found anything close to that on Vessel and no matter what page I'm on 95% of the thumbnails are from channels that I frankly don't give a shit about. I take that back, I do give a shit because I'm actually annoyed of having them there.

It depends on the game. Most games from the PS3 / Xbox 360 era of multiplats don't have as high of system requirements since those multiplats were also targeting the consoles. Most of the newer stuff will be much harder to run. It also depends on how much you lower in game settings. You can probably easily run stuff like TF2 at 4k by just turning off anti aliasing and lowering shadows. Just use Nvidia's DSR and try out 4k for yourself. The 770 is a rebadged 680, I have a 690 (680 SLI) and even when the game lacks an SLI profile, games like Fallout, TF2, etc can be cranked to 4k 60fps via DSR.

Just uninstall and reinstall the stable build / non beta version Geforce experience. The error doesn't prevent you from using it, though I've had troubles with the last beta Geforce experience version that did.

GTX 690, (680 SLI).

I use my console for game rentals of new stuff that I don't want to pay 60 for or stuff with launch issues. LEGAL DEMOING. Can't do that much on PC.

It has to plugged in for the laptop version of Turbo Boost.

Overclocking a CPU is about mitigating the minimum fps dips that are experienced. Almost all CPUs won't throttle a GPU to sub 60 average fps. Keeping the CPU related frame dips above 30 fps is preferable, above 60 is even better.

If you hit start, type event viewer, then under critical or error do you have an event ID 13 / 14 related to nvd something?

Still, significance of difference while already using best case scenario tests for the cpu not being the limiting factor. Which was one of my gripes considering he should have included a worst case scenario game that is cpu bound and one average 50/50 game. Before we flood OP's topic too much can take this to PM if you want. If not, have a good day / night and see you around on the forums!

No it wouldn't justify the cost. You're correct. Obviously building a PC is a balancing act of best performance you could get for your dollar. If your budget doesn't allow it then your budget doesn't allow it. For people that play a specific niche of titles, you can often target a more specialized build for them. Though all of my statements are in reference to JayZ's video. Every scenario he gave exhibited lowering cpu frequency resulted in lower fps. His benchmarks were ultimately from the best case scenario for a cpu not being a bottleneck (a synthetic gpu benchmark, and battlefield) and even still showed lowering cpu performance caused lower overall performance of the game. A non bottleneck would be something more like RAM frequency where the differences in game are within margin of error (<1-2 frames). We are actually both in agreement that the 860k would be the best cpu for that board and overall it won't be the limiting factor in a majority of stuff. Can see my original post. My replies about bottlenecking aren't over 860k but JayZ's facepalm worthy video in my opinion.

In response to edit. Benchmarks show a couple of popular games. Not every game is the same and most RTS and MMOs are extremely cpu bound. 2-5 fps is nothing on a game that isn't cpu bound and is already over 100 fps. What if you want to play ARMA, Total War Shogun 2 / Rome 2, or Dying Light? Battlefield, glitches aside, is very well optimized cpu wise. Should never build a system with best case scenario in mind. http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2013/06/01/intel-core-i7-4770k-cpu-review/6(Shogun is 2nd chart.)

No problem. I honestly have no idea what JayZ was thinking in that video. If you think your cpu is holding you back then troubleshooting it would be you lowering its frequency. If the frame rate goes down then some part of the game is bound to CPU performance. Regardless of the gpu usage the cpu can still be a bottleneck. Such as AI, physics, and other background management of the game.

Probably the single worst video I've seen explaining bottlenecking. Considering his own tests contradict his statement constantly. If lowering your cpu's frequency causes the frame rate to go down then you've found a limiting factor on what is effecting performance. If changing said variable has no impact frame rate then it can be said frame rate is not dependent on that parts performance.

If it is 88x then it should be FM2+ which means you can get the Athlon 860k. I recommend a Cooler master Evo to go with it so you can overclock as the extra will help. Depending on more cpu intensive games you'll still get a bit of a bottleneck.

I'd say this one http://pcpartpicker.com/p/jXJFyc The only thing I would change is maybe lower the power supply down to 750w (still plenty for SLI 900 series cards) and pick up a 2-4TB hard drive. More of the AAA games are using up 25-50GBs and if you don't like uninstalling the larger drives allow more breathing room. I pulled the trigger on getting a 4TB because I was tired of uninstalling and reinstalling some of my old favorites. It entirely depends on your usage habits though. 1TB is enough for most people.

Again. Original post is over extreme budget gaming rigs. Just because everyone else went off track doesn't mean my points about gaming should be taken in context to HTPCs or media servers. My 1st post is in reference to gaming. When it comes to HTPC or server use I don't hate them nearly as much. Though I still wouldn't invest in a dead end. I've looked up the roadmap for AM1 in the past. It is the low power / mobile line. Some of the chips are clones of tablet processors. Power consumption on the other hand... Dynamic frequency scaling lets my I7 4770k idle at 15w, my HTPC with an G1820 idle at ~6w. I have another HTPC with a A8 6600k in it but I keep it on a more aggressive performance profile. Whenever you're not using the machine it goes idle which is the majority of the time with most personal 24/7 machines. Intel is has been pretty aggressive in their idle low power states. Don't take my word for it though. http://www.techspot.com/review/806-amd-kabini-vs-intel-bay-trail-d/page8.html (please note it is power consumption of the entire system.) http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/athlon-5350-am1-platform-review,3801-9.html(vs a different celeron) Performance when you need it, power savings when you don't. The graphs also show off the nice misconception that TDP = power consumption. The G1820's TDP is double and then some of the AMD 5350 yet the largest delta (CPU+GPU load) is only 23w. Far from double and then some for system power consumption. When it is only the CPU being tested the delta is even smaller at 9w. Then finally the G1820 actually idles at a -3w delta from the AMD 5350. I don't know what else I can say about AM1. I've done plenty of research in the past over the platform. My distaste for it is not out of ignorance. It is over personal opinion with the upgrade path and objective data you can get from benchmarks over its performance versus things of a similar price.

You're good then. That board has 8+2 power phases. I would still keep a case fan close to the VRMs though.