Professional Monitor Help - 8 bit plus AFRC v. True 10 bit

[P e r s e p h o n e]

I need help picking out a monitor for a professional photographer with a maximum budget of $800 for a single 4k IPS monitor. 

 

A lot of display manufacturers seem to sell 8 bit plus AFRC as 10bit or 1.07 billion colors? I want to know is this the same as a true 10bit color or at least similar? Do I need a quadro in order to fully utilized 10bit color. Or is this basically like having a 10bit lut for approximating 10bit. Even then do I still need a quadro?

 

I'm looking at these monitor as my friend wants to spend as little as possible for a high quality monitor.

http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=us&cs=04&l=en&sku=210-ADOF

http://www.lg.com/us/commercial/lcd-computer-monitors/lg-27MC67-B

[techguru]

I need help picking out a monitor for a professional photographer with a maximum budget of $800 for a single 4k IPS monitor. 

 

A lot of display manufacturers seem to sell 8 bit plus AFRC as 10bit or 1.07 billion colors? I want to know is this the same as a true 10bit color or at least similar? Do I need a quadro in order to fully utilized 10bit color. Or is this basically like having a 10bit lut for approximating 10bit. Even then do I still need a quadro?

 

I'm looking at these monitor as my friend wants to spend as little as possible for a high quality monitor.

http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=us&cs=04&l=en&sku=210-ADOF

http://www.lg.com/us/commercial/lcd-computer-monitors/lg-27MC67-B

you need a quadro for 10bit

or I think a fire pro for 10 bit

as the monitor...check out asus and nec and Eizo artist monitors

 

http://www.eizo.com/products/coloredge/cg318-4k/

 

btw..you won't get a 10bit 4k monitor for 800 or less

[P e r s e p h o n e]

you need a quadro for 10bit

or I think a fire pro for 10 bit

as the monitor...check out asus artist monitors

 

I have but my friend wants a large 27"4k monitor and the PA series only has WQHD until you hit the 31" $1,200 4k one. 

 

I know I need everything from software to GPU to DP to monitor to accept 10bit, but is 8bit AFRC similar?

[ALwin]

Read this article, it gives a brief explanation of the difference between 8-bit and 10-bit monitors.

https://photographylife.com/what-is-30-bit-photography-workflow

[P e r s e p h o n e]

Read this article, it gives a brief explanation of the difference between 8-bit and 10-bit monitors.

https://photographylife.com/what-is-30-bit-photography-workflow

 

I understand what you need in order to utilize 10bit. What I want to know if 8bit AFRC, which manufacturers claim to be 10bit, can actually achieve the same or at least similar results. If so do I still have to use a quadro? I also have no idea what AFRC is, is just like having a large look up table so it can approximate colors better or is that something different?

[ALwin]

I understand what you need in order to utilize 10bit. What I want to know if 8bit AFRC, which manufacturers claim to be 10bit, can actually achieve the same or at least similar results. If so do I still have to use a quadro? I also have no idea what AFRC is, is just like having a large look up table so it can approximate colors better or is that something different?

 

For the GPUs, with nVidia and their GeForce cards (especially the high end latest ones) there are some vagueness about their support for 10-bit color.  Officially they say it is supported with DirectX but not for applications (e.g. Photoshop) that utilize OpenGL/OpenCL.  As I don't currently own a 10-bit monitor yet, I cannot test whether the support is there or not for my Titan X GPU.  Going into Photoshop's preferences I have 30-bit color support enabled.

 

I don't know about AMD GPUs.

 

 

For monitors, if you are looking to buy some quality 10-bit color monitors that are not as expensive as the Eizo ColorEdge series, look at Dell and HP PremierColor/DreamColor monitors.

 

This is a monitor I will be getting soon, and while it costs about $2000 on Dell, it only costs $1500 where I live.

http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=bsd&cs=04&sku=up275k3

 

HP DreamColor

http://www8.hp.com/us/en/campaigns/workstations/dreamcolor-displays.html

 

I can't say with any certainty about Asus, Samsung or other brands either way because among some of the mid to high end monitors I've looked at within their product lines, the quality control and design specifications are not clear.  The Dell monitor I linked above has the clearest specifications I've seen outside of Eizo monitors.

 

And I don't want to spend $5000 on an Eizo ColorEdge 4K monitor.

[Glenwing]

AFRC is an 8-bit panel flickering rapidly between two shades of color to simulate an inbetween shade. It's not quite as good as a true 10-bit panel but it's very close and generally difficult to tell the difference. True 10-bit monitors are not very common, most are 8-bit + AFRC.

[ALwin]

AFRC is an 8-bit panel flickering rapidly between two shades of color to simulate an inbetween shade. It's not quite as good as a true 10-bit panel but it's very close and generally difficult to tell the difference. True 10-bit monitors are not very common, most are 8-bit + AFRC.

 

 

True 10-bit monitors are also expensive...

[P e r s e p h o n e]

For the GPUs, with nVidia and their GeForce cards (especially the high end latest ones) there are some vagueness about their support for 10-bit color.  Officially they say it is supported with DirectX but not for applications (e.g. Photoshop) that utilize OpenGL/OpenCL.  As I don't currently own a 10-bit monitor yet, I cannot test whether the support is there or not for my Titan X GPU.  Going into Photoshop's preferences I have 30-bit color support enabled.

 

I don't know about AMD GPUs.

 

 

For monitors, if you are looking to buy some quality 10-bit color monitors that are not as expensive as the Eizo ColorEdge series, look at Dell and HP PremierColor/DreamColor monitors.

 

This is a monitor I will be getting soon, and while it costs about $2000 on Dell, it only costs $1500 where I live.

http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=bsd&cs=04&sku=up275k3

 

HP DreamColor

http://www8.hp.com/us/en/campaigns/workstations/dreamcolor-displays.html

 

I can't say with any certainty about Asus, Samsung or other brands either way because among some of the mid to high end monitors I've looked at within their product lines, the quality control and design specifications are not clear.  The Dell monitor I linked above has the clearest specifications I've seen outside of Eizo monitors.

 

And I don't want to spend $5000 on an Eizo ColorEdge 4K monitor.

Thanks for the help, but neither monitor really fits the description.

 

AFRC is an 8-bit panel flickering rapidly between two shades of color to simulate an inbetween shade. It's not quite as good as a true 10-bit panel but it's very close and generally difficult to tell the difference. True 10-bit monitors are not very common, most are 8-bit + AFRC.

So 8-bit AFRC will be just fine, in which case I should just be looking for panel uniformity and calibration right?

 

True 10-bit monitors are also expensive...

Yeah, and apparently very difficult to even utilize right.