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flatline

Hi All,

 

Would like to ask for your opinions as I would be doing an upgrade to my current rig:

A88X Gigabyte Sniper 

8gig DDR3 ram

A10 7850k APU

270x Sapphire Dual-X

M12II 520 Bronze

LG monitor 1080p 23inch

 

My question is about the CPU, 8600k or 2600x, i have been reading that the 8th gen CPUs are running into some throttling issues that is why i am hesitant in choosing that over the 2600x. The cooling that i will be using is Noctua NHD14 (i have the upgraded bracket for am4 too) Which one should i go with

 

My load:

 

Internet stuff (Surfing, youtube, etc)

Light productivity (excel, word, etc)

VM (using VDI when working at home)

Gaming, planning to play BF5 and COD BO4 and alot of driving games, Currently playing PUBG (all low settings), SC2, Dota2.

 

Upgrading to:

 

AMD:

Asus Strix X370-F Gaming + 2600x

 

Intel:

Asus Strix Z370-F Gaming + 8600k

 

 

GSkill Trident Z RGB 16gb 2x8gb 3200Mhz CL16 F4-3200C16D-16GTZR

EVGA 750GQ 80+ Gold Semi Modular

Palit GTX 1070 Ti Jetstream 8gb 256bit

Viewsonic 32 VX3276-2K MHD IPS 2560x1440

 

 

Do i still need to upgrade my PSU?

Is it worth the wait for RTX to arrive or should i settle with the 1070 TI?

 

I am asking you guys this as you can see of my current rig, it is outdated almost 4 years since I got that PC. I am looking for future proofing as well as minimal issues with the components as the next upgrade will be in 4-5 years from now.

 

Thank you for your time.

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31 minutes ago, flatline said:

i have been reading that the 8th gen CPUs are running into some throttling issues

Not sure where you heard this, but obviously a cpu won't throttle if you cool it properly. Don't cool an Intel CPU with stock cooler. 

Upgrading your PSU sounds like a good move.

Intel will be a better choice for you, given your use case.

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

Primary PC:

i7 8086k - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Skill Trident Z RGB - WD SN750 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G3 650W - dual booting Windows 10 and Linux - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me.

Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

How many watts do I needATX 3.0 & PCIe 5.0 spec, PSU misconceptions, protections explainedgroup reg is bad

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Well.PSU is loosing is output with age so upgrading it is neccesary,520w would be low even new.Anything over 650w from reputable brand will do the job.Graphic card wise 1070ti is good,but 1070 is 5-10% slower.So check pricing 1070 tends to be 15% cheaper.However in your case  Asus Strix X370-F Gaming + 2600x  would be better,swap RAM to something cheaper (AMD support up to 2933mhz only) and get gtx1080 cause u save on CPU.Prices just dropped anyway.Your cooler is decent you can even overclock CPU if u need.RTX cards arent worth it.RTX 2700 for 650$+ is slower than GTX 1080ti...for 2k gaming 1080 should be the best price to performance ratio at this time.There is not much performance difference between  8600k and 2600x and games are mostly GPU bound.              

My PC --- CPU: Ryzen 7 3700x @ 4.3 || MoBo: Asus strix x470-F || RAM:32GB@3400mhz  4x8GB Corsair vegeance pro RGB || Cooler: Corsair H150i Pro AIO || GPU: Sapphire Rx5700 XT nitro+ || PSU: Corsair rm750i || Case: Thermaltake TG 31 RGB || SSD: 1x hp ex900 nvme 500gb 3x crusial mm500 1tb || Corsair M65 elite & Corsair platinum K95 || 2x Acer ed323 qura 1440p@144hz + Samsung c27fg70 1080@144hz.tb

 
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     

 

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2 hours ago, Xcoool said:

Well.PSU is loosing is output with age so upgrading it is neccesary,520w would be low even new.Anything over 650w from reputable brand will do the job.Graphic card wise 1070ti is good,but 1070 is 5-10% slower.So check pricing 1070 tends to be 15% cheaper.However in your case  Asus Strix X370-F Gaming + 2600x  would be better,swap RAM to something cheaper (AMD support up to 2933mhz only) and get gtx1080 cause u save on CPU.Prices just dropped anyway.Your cooler is decent you can even overclock CPU if u need.RTX cards arent worth it.RTX 2700 for 650$+ is slower than GTX 1080ti...for 2k gaming 1080 should be the best price to performance ratio at this time.There is not much performance difference between  8600k and 2600x and games are mostly GPU bound.              

Hi thanks for that.

 

Just checked local pricing for 1080 and it did go down, ill go with it. with the ram, the price difference is not that significant on the lower speed rams.

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Well if you can get higher frequency ram and run them under-clocked for amd CPU it is better (less heat generated).Mobo with am4 socket will be good for another 2 gens according to amd,so later on you can just upgrade cpu,gpu and use those higher frequencies ram:).BTW,pleasure if you will have any other questions feel free to message me.

My PC --- CPU: Ryzen 7 3700x @ 4.3 || MoBo: Asus strix x470-F || RAM:32GB@3400mhz  4x8GB Corsair vegeance pro RGB || Cooler: Corsair H150i Pro AIO || GPU: Sapphire Rx5700 XT nitro+ || PSU: Corsair rm750i || Case: Thermaltake TG 31 RGB || SSD: 1x hp ex900 nvme 500gb 3x crusial mm500 1tb || Corsair M65 elite & Corsair platinum K95 || 2x Acer ed323 qura 1440p@144hz + Samsung c27fg70 1080@144hz.tb

 
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     

 

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8 hours ago, Xcoool said:

Well if you can get higher frequency ram and run them under-clocked for amd CPU it is better (less heat generated).Mobo with am4 socket will be good for another 2 gens according to amd,so later on you can just upgrade cpu,gpu and use those higher frequencies ram:).BTW,pleasure if you will have any other questions feel free to message me.

Did you just say slower ram is better for AMD? Also, you don't "underclock" ram, you can opt out of running it at jedec speeds.

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

Primary PC:

i7 8086k - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Skill Trident Z RGB - WD SN750 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G3 650W - dual booting Windows 10 and Linux - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me.

Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

How many watts do I needATX 3.0 & PCIe 5.0 spec, PSU misconceptions, protections explainedgroup reg is bad

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Im confused now. All the reviews state that the higher the speed the better for ryzen?

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Just now, flatline said:

Im confused now. All the reviews state that the higher the speed the better for ryzen?

To clarify, yes, higher memory speeds are definitely better for Ryzen (at least up to 3200 MHz).

 

Past 3200 MHz, however, you start to get diminishing returns, and at that point, you're better off reducing the latency.

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On 9/22/2018 at 8:13 PM, m0n4rchy said:

To clarify, yes, higher memory speeds are definitely better for Ryzen (at least up to 3200 MHz).

 

Past 3200 MHz, however, you start to get diminishing returns, and at that point, you're better off reducing the latency.

2933mhz is the highest supported frequency.With those frequencies your cpu is guarantied to be stable.As m0n4chy stated you can go higher however it can cause problems with stability.I dont have amd CPU,cant confirm nor deny you can use up to 3200mhz.However in future gens of ryzen CPU you should be able to go higher.Btw try to check vega 64 cards,i just picked one for $500 on amazon.In newer titles they offer slightly better performance than gtx 1080.

 

My PC --- CPU: Ryzen 7 3700x @ 4.3 || MoBo: Asus strix x470-F || RAM:32GB@3400mhz  4x8GB Corsair vegeance pro RGB || Cooler: Corsair H150i Pro AIO || GPU: Sapphire Rx5700 XT nitro+ || PSU: Corsair rm750i || Case: Thermaltake TG 31 RGB || SSD: 1x hp ex900 nvme 500gb 3x crusial mm500 1tb || Corsair M65 elite & Corsair platinum K95 || 2x Acer ed323 qura 1440p@144hz + Samsung c27fg70 1080@144hz.tb

 
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     

 

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