NEED HELP BUYING GAMING PC

[Herby]

I was hoping i could find some help deciding on what computer to buy.   I am looking for a rig that will only be used for gaming, and could also support streaming as well.  I have a budget of around $600 so these are the options i have come across so far.   

 

Please also tell me if there are specific things i have to look for that these computers dont have.  Based on the research i have done, i think these computers have a little bit of everything, but again, i really need a second opinion 

 

the help is much appreciated!!!

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/CUSTOM-INTEL-6th-Gen-i7-6700k-4-0GHz-BAREBONE-GAMING-DESKTOP-COMPUTER-SYSTEM-NEW/391948501809?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Dell-Gaming-PC-Desktop-Intel-Core-i7-GTX-1060-12GB-RAM-Fornite-80-FPS-Warranty/253398338791?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Dell-Intel-Core-i7-Gaming-Desktop-PC-Fortnite-80-FPS-NVIDIA-GTX-1060-WARRANTY/263467882514?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Custom-Built-AMD-Ryzen-8GB-DDR4-Gaming-Desktop-PC-AFFORDABLE-FORTNITE-GAMING-PC/232872541026?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649

[Herman Mcpootis]

i'd avoid those altogether, 1st and 4th rigs probably have rubbish PSUs while you can a seperate i7 rig and 1060/580 for less.

[Herby]

7 minutes ago, Herman Mcpootis said:

i'd avoid those altogether, 1st and 4th rigs probably have rubbish PSUs while you can a seperate i7 rig and 1060/580 for less.

Do you have any recommendations of pre-built PCs for 600-700 price range??

 

thanks for the help!

[Herman Mcpootis]

since you're fine with used parts:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/DELL-PRECISION-T3600-XEON-E5-1620-8GB-1TB-DVD-RW-AMD-RADEON-R7-250-GPU-WIN10-PRO/253841069199?hash=item3b1a1b548f:g:oGIAAOSw2stbiF0B $187.46

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Intel-SR0KX-Xeon-E5-2670-8-core-2-6Ghz-20M-8-GT-s-QPI-LGA2011-Processor-CPU/283132108791?epid=2202303011&hash=item41ebfd1ff7:g:FbEAAOSwp-5biJwU $80, optional but the extra cores will help for streaming.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/EVGA-NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-1070-Graphics-Card/332791662465?hash=item4d7bedc781:g:MUEAAOSw5WVbhJT1 $247

you can add an SSD or get a better GPU with the rest of the money.

[Herby]

5 minutes ago, Herman Mcpootis said:

since you're fine with used parts:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/DELL-PRECISION-T3600-XEON-E5-1620-8GB-1TB-DVD-RW-AMD-RADEON-R7-250-GPU-WIN10-PRO/253841069199?hash=item3b1a1b548f:g:oGIAAOSw2stbiF0B $187.46

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Intel-SR0KX-Xeon-E5-2670-8-core-2-6Ghz-20M-8-GT-s-QPI-LGA2011-Processor-CPU/283132108791?epid=2202303011&hash=item41ebfd1ff7:g:FbEAAOSwp-5biJwU $80, optional but the extra cores will help for streaming.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/EVGA-NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-1070-Graphics-Card/332791662465?hash=item4d7bedc781:g:MUEAAOSw5WVbhJT1 $247

you can add an SSD or get a better GPU with the rest of the money.

so the Dell Precision would be able to run the game? seems like its an amazing deal if it can.  Also, if it does run the game, is this computer easy to swap and install new parts?  I can easily upgrade the computer as i play... just hard to drop everything at once 

[GoldenLag]

Would you mind having alook at the used market and picking up a R9 290x for about 150$?

[GoldenLag]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($149.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($49.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Team - Vulcan 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($80.98 @ Newegg Business) 
Storage: Inland - Professional 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($24.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($43.90 @ OutletPC) 
Case: Cougar - MX330 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($34.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($32.98 @ Newegg) 
Total: $417.82
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-09-04 02:54 EDT-0400

 

This and find a used R9 290x for about 150$. 

Pick up OS for 25$ from Kinguin if it is needed

 

This will handle streaming really well

 

Edit: Other GPUs to pick up can be R9 390x/R9 390, gtx 970 (i would avoid the 970 due to Vram limitations)

Edited September 4, 2018 by GoldenLag

[Herby]

3 hours ago, GoldenLag said:

Would you mind having alook at the used market and picking up a R9 290x for about 150$?

amazing!! much appreciated 

 

3 hours ago, GoldenLag said:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($149.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($49.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Team - Vulcan 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($80.98 @ Newegg Business) 
Storage: Inland - Professional 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($24.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($43.90 @ OutletPC) 
Case: Cougar - MX330 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($34.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($32.98 @ Newegg) 
Total: $417.82
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-09-04 02:54 EDT-0400

 

This and find a used R9 290x for about 150$. 

Pick up OS for 25$ from Kinguin if it is needed

 

This will handle streaming really well

just to be sure, 

instead of the  Ryzen 5 i should get the R9?  or both

[GoldenLag]

3 hours ago, Herby said:

amazing!! much appreciated 

No problem.

 

If you have leftover cash at the end, swap the SSD for the one ill link below

 

Link: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/4mkj4D/crucial-mx500-250gb-25-solid-state-drive-ct250mx500ssd1

 

3 hours ago, Herby said:

just to be sure, 

instead of the  Ryzen 5 i should get the R9?  or both

No, the R5 is the CPU, you will get that regardless.

 

You will pick up the R9 in addition to this build

[Herman Mcpootis]

19 minutes ago, Herby said:

so the Dell Precision would be able to run the game? seems like its an amazing deal if it can.  Also, if it does run the game, is this computer easy to swap and install new parts?  I can easily upgrade the computer as i play... just hard to drop everything at once 

it'll run games just fine once you fit a decent GPU in there. upgrading the CPU and GPU should be business as usual, just look up a couple guides if you aren't sure.

[GoldenLag]

the R5 is the CPU

 

the R9 is the GPU.

 

(both are needed as the R5 doesnt have integrrated graphics)

 

you will stream using OBS using the R5 1600.

[forregacc02]

If you can somehow raise your budget a bit. You can get a complete PC that will run almost anything you throw at it.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($149.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: ASRock - X370 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($49.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($144.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Team - L5 LITE 3D 480GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($64.99 @ Newegg) 
Video Card: Gigabyte - Radeon RX 580 8GB AORUS 8G Video Card  ($229.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: Cougar - MX300 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($30.98 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($32.98 @ Newegg) 
Total: $703.91
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-09-04 03:02 EDT-0400

[GoldenLag]

3 minutes ago, forregacc02 said:

If you can somehow raise your budget a bit. You can get a complete PC that will run almost anything you throw at it.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($149.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: ASRock - X370 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($49.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($144.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Team - L5 LITE 3D 480GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($64.99 @ Newegg) 
Video Card: Gigabyte - Radeon RX 580 8GB AORUS 8G Video Card  ($229.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: Cougar - MX300 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($30.98 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($32.98 @ Newegg) 
Total: $703.91
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-09-04 03:02 EDT-0400

no need to raise the budget when a used R9 290x will perform the same as the rx 580.

 

that is providing he can get his hands on one

[Herby]

5 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

the R5 is the CPU

 

the R9 is the GPU.

 

(both are needed as the R5 doesnt have integrrated graphics)

 

you will stream using OBS using the R5 1600.

 

4 minutes ago, forregacc02 said:

If you can somehow raise your budget a bit. You can get a complete PC that will run almost anything you throw at it.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($149.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: ASRock - X370 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($49.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($144.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Team - L5 LITE 3D 480GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($64.99 @ Newegg) 
Video Card: Gigabyte - Radeon RX 580 8GB AORUS 8G Video Card  ($229.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: Cougar - MX300 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($30.98 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($32.98 @ Newegg) 
Total: $703.91
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-09-04 03:02 EDT-0400

 

I was looking around online and found this... 

 

is it smart to do a little bit of shortcut?  i was thinking of maybe buying a computer that i can just swap parts in and out.  

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/DELL-PRECISION-T3600-XEON-E5-1620-8GB-1TB-DVD-RW-AMD-RADEON-R7-250-GPU-WIN10-PRO/253841069199?hash=item3b1a1b548f:g:oGIAAOSw2stbiF0B

 

on the other hand though i have always wanted to run a computer i built myself.   I guess the problem i have is i would rather have a computer sooner than later and upgrade as I go.  Those two computers are definitely in my price range though so regardless I am that much closer 

[GoldenLag]

4 minutes ago, Herby said:

 

 

I was looking around online and found this... 

 

is it smart to do a little bit of shortcut?  i was thinking of maybe buying a computer that i can just swap parts in and out.  

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/DELL-PRECISION-T3600-XEON-E5-1620-8GB-1TB-DVD-RW-AMD-RADEON-R7-250-GPU-WIN10-PRO/253841069199?hash=item3b1a1b548f:g:oGIAAOSw2stbiF0B

 

on the other hand though i have always wanted to run a computer i built myself.   I guess the problem i have is i would rather have a computer sooner than later and upgrade as I go.  Those two computers are definitely in my price range though so regardless I am that much closer 

that is a nice build for a small budget. the issue is that you will have to swap most components for new ones, it will get expencive over time.

 

id grab the first build i did and look at getting one of the GPUs i mentioned for about 140-170$. its a tough price to pay, but it will last a while and you will be on a newer plattform

[forregacc02]

9 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

no need to raise the budget when a used R9 290x will perform the same as the rx 580.

 

that is providing he can get his hands on one

That's true. You already made a very compelling build for the said budget. Thus, I made an alternative that's more convenient albeit more expensive.

[GoldenLag]

Just now, forregacc02 said:

That's true. You already made a very compelling build for the said budget. Thus, I made an alternative that's more convenient albeit more expensive.

very true, a very nice build you did. could maybe cut a couple of corners and do it within budget. (though it would involve dropping the case among other things)

 

@Herby you can use the pc you found. though you will have to spend 220$ (a GPU, a new PSU and a small SSD) to get it on par with the other builds suggested. and you will be on a outdated plattform (not to mention only having 4 cores 8 threads to use for streaming). the other build it is just to slot in extra ram or swap the CPU without changing the mobo.

 

the end cost would be 400$ now, and another 250-300$ to get a new CPU, mobo and RAM for CPU upgrade in the future

[Herman Mcpootis]

don't make multiple of the same threads, just wait and see if anyone else answers. and don't just claim you found the T3600 when someone else sent you the link, feels abit rude IMO.

[Herby]

@GoldenLag yeah you make a great point. 

 

Roght now im tinkering with the build you sent me but i am already starting to buy parts for it.  

 

If i were to buy used parts... which would they be.  I know buying used parts can be a gamble in terms of long term use but if i were to cut some corners

[Herby]

@GoldenLag can i swap the CPU in your build with for an AMD-4000?  

 

i could always upgrade the CPU right?

3 hours ago, GoldenLag said:

very true, a very nice build you did. could maybe cut a couple of corners and do it within budget. (though it would involve dropping the case among other things)

 

@Herby you can use the pc you found. though you will have to spend 220$ (a GPU, a new PSU and a small SSD) to get it on par with the other builds suggested. and you will be on a outdated plattform (not to mention only having 4 cores 8 threads to use for streaming). the other build it is just to slot in extra ram or swap the CPU without changing the mobo.

 

the end cost would be 400$ now, and another 250-300$ to get a new CPU, mobo and RAM for CPU upgrade in the future

 

and do you guys have any opinions on these? I know these are not exactly what i should buy but in terms of whats its missing so i can get a better understanding 

 

again you guys have been so much help i can even describe 

 

3 hours ago, GoldenLag said:

very true, a very nice build you did. could maybe cut a couple of corners and do it within budget. (though it would involve dropping the case among other things)

 

@Herby you can use the pc you found. though you will have to spend 220$ (a GPU, a new PSU and a small SSD) to get it on par with the other builds suggested. and you will be on a outdated plattform (not to mention only having 4 cores 8 threads to use for streaming). the other build it is just to slot in extra ram or swap the CPU without changing the mobo.

 

the end cost would be 400$ now, and another 250-300$ to get a new CPU, mobo and RAM for CPU upgrade in the future

sorry to annoy

 

but thinking about it i wouldnt even need the PC to stream because i have a mac desktop that i will be keeping.  I can just get a capture card and use the mac to stream and to provide camera and other overlays.  considering this... is there a cheaper build i can go with?

[GoldenLag]

3 hours ago, Herby said:

@GoldenLag can i swap the CPU in your build with for an AMD-4000?  

 

i could always upgrade the CPU right?

 

Do not get an AMD 4000 CPU, its a bad buy regardless of price.

 

Regions where you can cut is to not buy a case and roll without one for a while. 

 

A 1TB HDD should be able to picked up used for 10$ (or less)

 

Do not skimp on the PSU

 

Dont touch the RAM.

 

If you want to save a bit on the GPU a HD 7970/R9 280 should be somewhat cheaper than the 290x (but lower performing)

 

2 hours ago, Herby said:

sorry to annoy

 

but thinking about it i wouldnt even need the PC to stream because i have a mac desktop that i will be keeping.  I can just get a capture card and use the mac to stream and to provide camera and other overlays.  considering this... is there a cheaper build i can go with?

A capture card will be a cost of its own, which is an issue

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 3 1200 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($93.40 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($49.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Team - Vulcan 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($80.98 @ Newegg Business) 
Storage: Inland - Professional 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($24.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($43.90 @ OutletPC) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($32.98 @ Newegg) 
Total: $326.24
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-09-04 03:52 EDT-0400

 

This plus one of the GPUs ive mentioned will be able to handle streaming (though not high quality streaming)

 

 

New CPUs can still be slotted without changing the mobo.

 

You can set up you mac as a rendering box yes, what mac is it? 

[Herby]

7 hours ago, GoldenLag said:

Do not get an AMD 4000 CPU, its a bad buy regardless of price.

 

Regions where you can cut is to not buy a case and roll without one for a while. 

 

A 1TB HDD should be able to picked up used for 10$ (or less)

 

Do not skimp on the PSU

 

Dont touch the RAM.

 

If you want to save a bit on the GPU a HD 7970/R9 280 should be somewhat cheaper than the 290x (but lower performing)

 

A capture card will be a cost of its own, which is an issue

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 3 1200 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($93.40 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($49.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Team - Vulcan 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($80.98 @ Newegg Business) 
Storage: Inland - Professional 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($24.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($43.90 @ OutletPC) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($32.98 @ Newegg) 
Total: $326.24
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-09-04 03:52 EDT-0400

 

This plus one of the GPUs ive mentioned will be able to handle streaming (though not high quality streaming)

 

 

New CPUs can still be slotted without changing the mobo.

 

You can set up you mac as a rendering box yes, what mac is it? 

it is a 2011 desktop.   It is also really fast because i upgraded the ram, only use it for microsoft word, and use an external hardrive for my files and applications.  

 

If i do this build, would a CPU be necessary to start?  I would get an el gato card instead which i can find used for a good price (also since used capture cards tend to work fine) 

 

 

i found online that this CPU runs pretty well along with fortnite and similar FPS shooters 

 

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Original-Intel-Xeon-X3430-Quad-Core-2-4GHz-LGA-1156-8M-Cache-95W-Desktop-CPU/32354920158.html

 

 

Edited September 4, 2018 by Herby
need to put the link

[GoldenLag]

16 minutes ago, Herby said:

it is a 2011 desktop.   It is also really fast because i upgraded the ram, only use it for microsoft word, and use an external hardrive for my files and applications.  

 

If i do this build, would a CPU be necessary to start?  I would get an el gato card instead which i can find used for a good price (also since used capture cards tend to work fine) 

 

 

i found online that this CPU runs pretty well along with fortnite and similar FPS shooters 

 

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Original-Intel-Xeon-X3430-Quad-Core-2-4GHz-LGA-1156-8M-Cache-95W-Desktop-CPU/32354920158.html

 

 

if  you do the build i listed above and you get one of the mentioned GPUs you will still have to get the CPU in that build as it is neccesary for the system to work. 

 

if you go Herman`s way you will follow his instructions.

 

if you use a capture card you still have encode the footage on the pc that is capturing.

 

also saying it is a 2011 desktop says nothing about its speed

[Herby]

late 2008 imac 2.4 ghz 4GB RAM intel core duo 

 

 

what do you think about his computer??

 

https://www.ebay.com/myb/Summary?MyEbay&gbh=1

 

 

[Herby]

On 9/4/2018 at 11:45 AM, GoldenLag said:

if  you do the build i listed above and you get one of the mentioned GPUs you will still have to get the CPU in that build as it is neccesary for the system to work. 

 

if you go Herman`s way you will follow his instructions.

 

if you use a capture card you still have encode the footage on the pc that is capturing.

 

also saying it is a 2011 desktop says nothing about its speed

late 2008 imac 2.4 ghz 4GB RAM intel core duo 

 

 

what do you think about his computer??

 

https://www.ebay.com/myb/Summary?MyEbay&gbh=1