The 2nd beast

[willians1002]

Hello, this is my 2^nd gaming/work machine. I need this upgrade because my present machine can't handle the job i need from it.

 

Gaming on it is fine, but recently I joined Google Maps and Waze team to do a mass update in my region and country and that need's a lot of maps and pages open, geographic software, etc... and my PC becomes slower... slower... and slower...

I'm also a photographer, and at the moment it takes in average 15 seconds to 2 minutes to process a full raw image (same as exporting to PNG).

"Oh 15 sec", seems fast but if we consider my average of 500 images per project it would be 2 hours of processing to open the raw file and 2 more to export. I can't move files around in Photoshop/Lightroom when one is being exported.

 

This is a 2.600€ / 2.292£ / 3.000 US$ / 3.920 CA$ machine with a i7 8700k and a GTX 1080 8GB (1080 Ti in the future)

I want to know if there is any suggestion to the build

 

Pc Part Picker: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/willian1002/saved/9RjcYJ

[ricksteendam1]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/nrp84q 

 

I have switch out the ram for some faster cheaper ram and put a beefier power supply in it so you will be sitting on top of the efficiency. curve. 

[Herman Mcpootis]

32 minutes ago, willians1002 said:

This is a 2.600€ / 2.292£ / 3.000 US$ / 3.920 CA$ machine with a i7 8700k and a GTX 1080 8GB (1080 Ti in the future)

I want to know if there is any suggestion to the build

don't convert your budget to a bunch of different countries, all it does is make things confusing for all of us.

[Sernefarian]

for the 2.5" drive switch in the Mx500 and save a few bucks while increasing 2.5" performance.

 

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/h3tQzy/crucial-mx500-1tb-25-solid-state-drive-ct1000mx500ssd1

[Herman Mcpootis]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700K 3.7GHz 6-Core Processor  (£303.60 @ Aria PC) 
CPU Cooler: Corsair - H150i PRO 47.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  (£137.99 @ CCL Computers) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte - Z370 AORUS ULTRA GAMING 2.0 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  (£149.99 @ Aria PC) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance RGB 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (£332.39 @ Aria PC) 
Storage: Samsung - 970 Evo 500GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  (£143.99 @ Aria PC) 
Storage: Crucial - MX500 1TB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£162.99 @ Aria PC) 
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB AORUS Video Card  (£692.33 @ Amazon UK) 
Case: Cooler Master - MasterBox MB500 ATX Mid Tower Case  (£54.95 @ AWD-IT) 
Power Supply: Corsair - TXM Gold 750W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  (£84.98 @ Aria PC) 
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit  (£84.92 @ Laptops Direct) 
Total: £2148.13
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-07-29 08:07 BST+0100

[Sernefarian]

if 1 TB m.2 SSD is an absolute then HP's new EX920 both has a cache and gives you a huge cost decrease on M.2 while still performing admirably.

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/88bwrH/hp-ex920-1tb-m2-2280-solid-state-drive-2yy47aaabc

 

Benchmark review link

 

Another lower cost option @ ~1TB at a lower price premium is the ADATA XPG SX8200. 

 

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/Msvbt6/adata-xpg-sx8200-960gb-m2-2280-solid-state-drive-asx8200np-960gt-c
 

Each option saves you in the range of 100 pounds with the ADATA option performing equivalent to a 960 Pro.

 

Benchmark Comparison link

Edited July 29, 2018 by Sernefarian
squash the typo!

[Jurrunio]

PCPartPicker part list: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/sTNqBb
Price breakdown by merchant: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/sTNqBb/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700K 3.7GHz 6-Core Processor  (£303.60 @ Aria PC) 
CPU Cooler: NZXT - Kraken X62 Rev 2 98.2 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  (£124.79 @ Aria PC) 
Motherboard: ASRock - Fatal1ty Z370 Gaming K6 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  (£160.44 @ Amazon UK) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance RGB 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (£332.39 @ Aria PC) 
Storage: Crucial - MX500 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£76.79 @ Aria PC) 
Storage: ADATA - XPG SX8200 960GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  (£254.99 @ CCL Computers) 
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB GAMING X Video Card  (£586.49 @ Amazon UK) 
Case: Fractal Design - Meshify C White TG ATX Mid Tower Case  (£64.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk) 
Power Supply: Corsair - TXM Gold 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  (£74.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit  (£84.92 @ Laptops Direct) 
Total: £2064.39
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-07-29 08:19 BST+0100

 

Changed the CPU cooler (while keeping RGB) because the ML240L just sucks.

Changed motherboard, cheap boards you picked are for overclocking 4 core CPUs only. The K6 has strong VRMs (kinda overkill), post code display and dual BIOS, good for those who might run into trouble while setting the BIOS up.

Replaced RAM to something much cheaper and identical performance.

MX500 as boot drive, SX8200 (NVMe SSD) for photo editing.

Upgraded to 1080ti that cost little bit extra. Too bad it's red, but better 1080tis cost 100+ quid more.

Changed the case to something that can mount the 280mm X62 cooler's radiator on the top

Changed the PSU for slightly more wattage and same price.

[willians1002]

I changed the:

- SSD as @Sernefarian suggested

- M.2 SSD to an older version of Samsung EVO (almost same write/read speed)

- Graphics Card to an Asus 1080 Ti

- PSU to a Corsair TXM 650 as @Herman Mcpootis & @Jurrunio suggested

 

11 hours ago, ricksteendam1 said:

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/nrp84q 

 

I have switch out the ram for some faster cheaper ram and put a beefier power supply in it so you will be sitting on top of the efficiency. curve. 

Thanks for the suggestion but the G Skill has an individual LED configuration sync.

 

10 hours ago, Herman Mcpootis said:

CPU Cooler: Corsair - H150i PRO 47.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  (£137.99 @ CCL Computers) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte - Z370 AORUS ULTRA GAMING 2.0 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  (£149.99 @ Aria PC) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance RGB 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (£332.39 @ Aria PC)

 

&

10 hours ago, Jurrunio said:

CPU Cooler: NZXT - Kraken X62 Rev 2 98.2 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  (£124.79 @ Aria PC) 
Motherboard: ASRock - Fatal1ty Z370 Gaming K6 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  (£160.44 @ Amazon UK) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance RGB 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (£332.39 @ Aria PC)
Case: Fractal Design - Meshify C White TG ATX Mid Tower Case  (£64.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk)

 

Changed the CPU cooler (while keeping RGB) because the ML240L just sucks.

Changed motherboard, cheap boards you picked are for overclocking 4 core CPUs only. The K6 has strong VRMs (kinda overkill), post code display and dual BIOS, good for those who might run into trouble while setting the BIOS up.

Replaced RAM to something much cheaper and identical performance.

MX500 as boot drive, SX8200 (NVMe SSD) for photo editing.

Upgraded to 1080ti that cost little bit extra. Too bad it's red, but better 1080tis cost 100+ quid more.

Changed the case to something that can mount the 280mm X62 cooler's radiator on the top

Changed the PSU for slightly more wattage and same price.

3

Both coolers have RGB at the CPU but I want in the fans too because of the front of the case.

The motherboard is more because of it's functionality, I don't want to overclock any part of the system.

The memory I want the 4 slots occupied and the G Skill have individual LED with more options of effects.

I don't plan to change the MB500 case.

 

The storage:

M.2 is for the main for System, Games and Programs.

2'5 SSD it's for all the folders and files.

 

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/willian1002/saved/9RjcYJ

[Jurrunio]

6 hours ago, willians1002 said:

I changed the:

- SSD as @Sernefarian suggested

- M.2 SSD to an older version of Samsung EVO (almost same write/read speed)

- Graphics Card to an Asus 1080 Ti

- PSU to a Corsair TXM 650 as @Herman Mcpootis & @Jurrunio suggested

 

Thanks for the suggestion but the G Skill has an individual LED configuration sync.

 

&

Both coolers have RGB at the CPU but I want in the fans too because of the front of the case.

The motherboard is more because of it's functionality, I don't want to overclock any part of the system.

The memory I want the 4 slots occupied and the G Skill have individual LED with more options of effects.

I don't plan to change the MB500 case.

 

The storage:

M.2 is for the main for System, Games and Programs.

2'5 SSD it's for all the folders and files.

 

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/willian1002/saved/9RjcYJ

You mean lack of functionality? Buy the non-K 8700 and mobo like the Asus B360-F or MSI B360 Gaming Pro Carbon if you arent overclocking

[willians1002]

3 hours ago, Jurrunio said:

You mean lack of functionality? Buy the non-K 8700 and mobo like the Asus B360-F or MSI B360 Gaming Pro Carbon if you arent overclocking

Which is the difference between the 8700-k and the non-k?

 

The MSI B370 have a lot's of functionalities. B360 is a single colour (i just found red) and I want an RGB machine.

[Jurrunio]

4 minutes ago, willians1002 said:

Which is the difference between the 8700-k and the non-k?

8700k allows overclocking, 8700 doesnt. Turbo clocks are the same, so they run the same when cooling is adequate and 8700k isnt overclocked

 

4 minutes ago, willians1002 said:

B360 is a single colour (i just found red) and I want an RGB machine.

It is RGB

 

[willians1002]

24 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

8700k allows overclocking, 8700 doesnt.

 

I will stay with the K version because it have 3.7Ghz (i need a lot of processing speed)

 

24 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

[Video]

It is RGB

 

I was looking at the prices in my country and there is a 10€ to 25€ difference. I don't mind spending that difference unless it is better than the Z370 Gaming Pro Carbon.

 

Edit: I mean, the Z370 is 10€ to 25€ expensive than the B360

[Jurrunio]

7 minutes ago, willians1002 said:

I will stay with the K version because it have 3.7Ghz (i need a lot of processing speed)

actually, you get 4.3GHz max all cores on both 8700 and 8700k because of Intel's turbo boost if you dont overclock.The base clock simply reflects their different TDP values (naturally, being allowed to push more heat means higher clocks), but while turbo boost kicks in the TDP value gets violated all the time.

[willians1002]

12 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

actually, you get 4.3GHz max all cores on both 8700 and 8700k because of Intel's turbo boost if you dont overclock.The base clock simply reflects their different TDP values (naturally, being allowed to push more heat means higher clocks), but while turbo boost kicks in the TDP value gets violated all the time.

So you're saying that they in the field (when is being used) even the non-K version will work at 4.3Ghz if needed?

[Jurrunio]

3 hours ago, willians1002 said:

So you're saying that they in the field (when is being used) even the non-K version will work at 4.3Ghz if needed?

yes

 

of course you cant use the stock cooler for that, it's rated for 73w only

[willians1002]

On 30/07/2018 at 8:57 AM, Jurrunio said:

yes

 

of course you cant use the stock cooler for that, it's rated for 73w only

Will my Water Cooler handle it? A Cooler Master 240mm

Like I said, I don't plan to OC.

[Jurrunio]

37 minutes ago, willians1002 said:

Will my Water Cooler handle it? A Cooler Master 240mm

Like I said, I don't plan to OC.

great cooler for the price and looks, as long as you dont look for great performance. You're good.

 

Be careful with screwing the fans onto the radiator though. Gamers Nexus failed to do their review because they used a slightly longer than specified screw, which punched through the water pipes in the radiator.

[willians1002]

5 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

great cooler for the price and looks, as long as you dont look for great performance. You're good.

 

Be careful with screwing the fans onto the radiator though. Gamers Nexus failed to do their review because they used a slightly longer than specified screw, which punched through the water pipes in the radiator.

The one I looked for already come with everything in the box.

[willians1002]

@Jurrunio I also swapped to this case. I would be better if I purchase the 360mm or can i stay with the 240mm?

[Jurrunio]

9 minutes ago, willians1002 said:

The one I looked for already come with everything in the box.

yeah, but you still need to mount the fans to the radiator yourself.

 

6 minutes ago, willians1002 said:

@Jurrunio I also swapped to this case. I would be better if I purchase the 360mm or can i stay with the 240mm?

You're buying that for looks, not performance.

 

Even the lowly Hyper 212 can cool the 8700 adequately.

[willians1002]

2 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

Even the lowly Hyper 212 can cool the 8700 adequately.

Yeah, I want a water cooler because I don't like how Air Cooler's look inside the case.

Any RGB Water Cooler that you recommend?

[Jurrunio]

Just now, willians1002 said:

Yeah, I want a water cooler because I don't like how Air Cooler's look inside the case.

Any RGB Water Cooler that you recommend?

NZXT Kraken series. They dont have RGB fans, but they do have RGB CPU block which looks very good. You can replace fans with RGB ones of your choice later on.