Question about water cooling

[Wolfire]

Hi, next year im planning to do my first pc and i want it to be watercooled but some questions came. Here is what i want in my pc (some part may be missing but feel free to add or replace some components) 

 

 

Intel i7 7820x

MSI X299 Tomahawk Arctic

Noctua NH D-15

Corsair Vengence RGB Pro 32GB 4x8

Seagate Ironwolf 10TB

Samsung  970 Evo 1TB M.2 2280

Intel Optane M10 64GB

Asus GTX 1080Ti Strix Gaming OC

Corsair Vengence C70 White

Corsair AX760w 80+ Platinum

Windows 10 home

Acer XB281HK Bmiprz 28 3840x2160 60hz G-sync

Corsair K95 RGB Platinum 

Logitch G-pro

Kit custom ek waterblock

-EK-DBay D5 PWM

-EK XRES X4 250 

-EK-FC1080 GTX Ti Strix Nickel rev 2.0

-EK-FC1080 GTX Ti Strix Backplate rev.2 nickel

-EK-HD Tube 10/12mm 500mm x3

-EK-HDC fitting 12mm x14

-XSPC EC6 Clear + UV Orange

-EK-ATX Bridging Plug

-EK-Cable Y-Splitter 3 fan PWM

10cm

-EK-Cable Y-Splitter 2 fan PWM 10cm

sorry for the size of the text

 

so first question, the DBay being in the 5.25" bay, it's higher than the X4 reservoir so will it have some max capacity problems like a reservoir filled to the top and one not so much and will it have an aspiration problem?

second, how do you flush the loop, do you just open the drain and voila all the coolant is all out?

Third, is the diy kit for tubing from ekwb enough to do the bending or should i get more specialized tools.

and final (for now) in wich order do i place my rads? Pump-cpu-360-gpu-240 etc...

 

i know it might sound derpy but i have absolutely no experience in watercooling

[Mick Naughty]

Using another res with the bay res won’t cause an issue it’s just gonna act like another component. So you need to fill it all the way manually unless you’re gonna run the inlet and outlet on opposite end of the large res. 

 

If your loop is designed perfectly you can get all fluid out by opening the top of the loop and the drain port. Or have two drain ports. Depends a lot on the routing. 

 

You need a heat gun at least to do the bending. Aside from that the kit it “enough” 

 

Routing order will not matter. Do what is easier or looks better. You have a pump res combo so you don’t need to do anything special. 

[Wolfire]

On 2018-06-28 at 8:10 AM, Mick Naughty said:

Using another res with the bay res won’t cause an issue it’s just gonna act like another component. So you need to fill it all the way manually unless you’re gonna run the inlet and outlet on opposite end of the large res. 

 

If your loop is designed perfectly you can get all fluid out by opening the top of the loop and the drain port. Or have two drain ports. Depends a lot on the routing. 

 

You need a heat gun at least to do the bending. Aside from that the kit it “enough” 

 

Routing order will not matter. Do what is easier or looks better. You have a pump res combo so you don’t need to do anything special. 

Alright thank you

 

i got another question, Do you know any other reservoir that can be accessed by the top to feed the pump? Like on the photo the dbay feed from the x4 res from the top and the x4 res by ekwb is the only one that i saw with that kind of hole placement

[Mick Naughty]

55 minutes ago, Wolfire said:

Alright thank you

 

i got another question, Do you know any other reservoir that can be accessed by the top to feed the pump? Like on the photo the dbay feed from the x4 res from the top and the x4 res by ekwb is the only one that i saw with that kind of hole placement

The pump is already being fed by the res that its built into. Almost all res' have access to the top. If not they have another top you can swap it out to gain access. So im not really sure what you are trying to do exactly.

 

[Wolfire]

36 minutes ago, Mick Naughty said:

The pump is already being fed by the res that its built into. Almost all res' have access to the top. If not they have another top you can swap it out to gain access. So im not really sure what you are trying to do exactly.

 

The second drawing thats how i want it to look like

[W-L]

1 hour ago, Wolfire said:

Alright thank you

 

i got another question, Do you know any other reservoir that can be accessed by the top to feed the pump? Like on the photo the dbay feed from the x4 res from the top and the x4 res by ekwb is the only one that i saw with that kind of hole placement

Why are you running two res units especially a pump combo bay unit. If your wanting to fill out the system and provide it with a specific look I'd recommend to have a tube res pump combo unit and have the Bay res only as a secondary res that cycles fluid through it. 

[Wolfire]

7 minutes ago, W-L said:

Why are you running two res units especially a pump combo bay unit. If your wanting to fill out the system and provide it with a specific look I'd recommend to have a tube res pump combo unit and have the Bay res only as a secondary res that cycles fluid through it. 

A bay pump combi is worse than a tube pump combo?

[W-L]

1 minute ago, Wolfire said:

A bay pump combi is worse than a tube pump combo?

It's not worst but there are some downsides to them, mainly vibration and noise since they readily transfer it to the case. As for the loop layout what you have there with the loop running fromt he bay res to the CPU, GPu back around to the res isn't ideal. Your essentially pressurizing the tube res to then force the fluid up to the combo unit, it works but wouldn't be something I'd suggest to do. 

[Wolfire]

7 minutes ago, W-L said:

It's not worst but there are some downsides to them, mainly vibration and noise since they readily transfer it to the case. As for the loop layout what you have there with the loop running fromt he bay res to the CPU, GPu back around to the res isn't ideal. Your essentially pressurizing the tube res to then force the fluid up to the combo unit, it works but wouldn't be something I'd suggest to do. 

But the pump doesnt suck the coolant in from the tube?

[Wolfire]

23 minutes ago, W-L said:

Why are you running two res units especially a pump combo bay unit. If your wanting to fill out the system and provide it with a specific look I'd recommend to have a tube res pump combo unit and have the Bay res only as a secondary res that cycles fluid through it. 

So it would be better to do tube res pump to 240mm, to gpu, to cpu, to 360 and to the bay res and back in the tube?

[W-L]

16 minutes ago, Wolfire said:

But the pump doesnt suck the coolant in from the tube?

The coolant won't get drawn up the tube it's the fluid that's moving through the loop that would displace the tube res to force it up.

 

13 minutes ago, Wolfire said:

So it would be better to do tube res pump to 240mm, to gpu, to cpu, to 360 and to the bay res and back in the tube?

That would be a little better in my eyes to ensure that it's at least gravity fed back to the tube combo unit. In general though unless you want it for look a single res/pump unit is enough for the whole loop.

[Wolfire]

13 minutes ago, W-L said:

The coolant won't get drawn up the tube it's the fluid that's moving through the loop that would displace the tube res to force it up.

 

That would be a little better in my eyes to ensure that it's at least gravity fed back to the tube combo unit. In general though unless you want it for look a single res/pump unit is enough for the whole loop.

The bay res is basically just for show. I know it’s extra cash and work but i love the look of a bay res

[W-L]

5 minutes ago, Wolfire said:

The bay res is basically just for show. I know it’s extra cash and work but i love the look of a bay res

It's up to you but for sure doable, in this case you will want to just get the regular bay unit with no pump options. 

https://www.ekwb.com/shop/ek-dbay-spin-reservoir-r3-0

[Wolfire]

6 minutes ago, W-L said:

It's up to you but for sure doable, in this case you will want to just get the regular bay unit with no pump options. 

https://www.ekwb.com/shop/ek-dbay-spin-reservoir-r3-0

Now that i think more and more abou it. The bay won’t fill up until the tube res is full right? Gosh i didn’t think that conceiving a water loop could take that much thinking

[W-L]

1 minute ago, Wolfire said:

Now that i think more and more abou it. The bay won’t fill up until the tube res is full right? Gosh i didn’t think that conceiving a water loop could take that much thinking

That should be possible as long as there is back pressure to prevent the fluid from draining into the tube res. One thing you can do is configure it so the tube res is higher to ensure that it always keeps to the same level if it does drain.

[Wolfire]

13 minutes ago, W-L said:

That should be possible as long as there is back pressure to prevent the fluid from draining into the tube res. One thing you can do is configure it so the tube res is higher to ensure that it always keeps to the same level if it does drain.

I think it would be quite hard as the 5.25 bays are at the top of the tower. This is quite hard on the C70 as the interior is small. The end of the gpu will interfere with the tube reservoir so i need either put a small combo or put no tube at all and put a d5 somewhere

[W-L]

14 hours ago, Wolfire said:

I think it would be quite hard as the 5.25 bays are at the top of the tower. This is quite hard on the C70 as the interior is small. The end of the gpu will interfere with the tube reservoir so i need either put a small combo or put no tube at all and put a d5 somewhere

Depends on the card you have but with a full cover block it shouldn't stick out crazy far unless it's a special non-reference board. Overall though I don't see why it wouldn't work, you will want to use an internal tube if your going to feed the fluid back into the tube res from the top to prevent splashing and keep that back pressure. 

 

https://www.ekwb.com/shop/ek-res-x3-tube-250-204mm

https://www.ekwb.com/shop/ek-res-x3-internal-tube-12-16-140mm

Edited June 30, 2018 by W-L

[Wolfire]

6 hours ago, W-L said:

Depends on the card you have but with a full cover block it shouldn't stick out crazy far unless it's a special non-reference board. Overall though I don't see why it wouldn't work, you will want to use an internal tube if your going to feed the fluid back into the tube res from the top to prevent splashing and keep that back pressure. 

 

https://www.ekwb.com/shop/ek-res-x3-tube-250-204mm

 

Ok. So from the top inlet i put a piece of tubing that goes midway through the tube res. With a multiport cap of course

[W-L]

4 hours ago, Wolfire said:

Ok. So from the top inlet i put a piece of tubing that goes midway through the tube res. With a multiport cap of course

Correct and it would be this part not that one, linked the wrong one. 

https://www.ekwb.com/shop/ek-res-x3-internal-tube-12-16-140mm

[Wolfire]

4 hours ago, W-L said:

Correct and it would be this part not that one, linked the wrong one. 

https://www.ekwb.com/shop/ek-res-x3-internal-tube-12-16-140mm

Alright thanks alot