Building a PC.[Need help]

[GrizzlyBear0]

so umm. i'm building a pc with a 870$ budget. i was able to make a decent build But apparently the local computer store said his company told him. almost all of these are OLD.! and they don't make them anymore except for the video card.

What i need help is to make a good pc with new parts that are actually in store. with the 870$ budget. need help

 

2017-2018 or even 2016 parts etc. hopefully they got them in store.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YF6hP3

 

i need these parts

 

cpu

motherboard[ATX for the case i got]

ram

psu

video card

 

Don't need cases/storage etc. already got.

[deXxterlab97]

Where are you from and what store are you buying from? Ryzen was released after the 1060'was released so wtf is wrong with that store. 

[Herman Mcpootis]

11 minutes ago, GrizzlyBear0 said:

so umm. i'm building a pc with a 870$ budget. i was able to make a decent build But apparently the local computer store said his company told him. almost all of these are OLD.! and they don't make them anymore except for the video card.

What i need help is to make a good pc with new parts that are actually in store. with the 870$ budget. need help

 

2017-2018 or even 2016 parts etc. hopefully they got them in store.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YF6hP3

 

i need these parts

 

cpu

motherboard[ATX for the case i got]

ram

psu

video card

 

Don't need cases/storage etc. already got.

ryzen isn't even a full year old, and they're calling it 'old'? which country?

[GrizzlyBear0]

2 minutes ago, herman mcpootis said:

ryzen isn't even a full year old, and they're calling it 'old'? which country?

 

3 minutes ago, deXxterlab97 said:

Where are you from and what store are you buying from? Ryzen was released after the 1060'was released so wtf is wrong with that store. 

let me recall this idiot this. sec..his busy he said recall me in 30 mins. gotta  be patient then.

btw is gtx 1060 6gb for 516.85$ good? and is gtx 1060 4gb for 287.14$ a good price?

[deXxterlab97]

1 minute ago, GrizzlyBear0 said:

 

let me recall this idiot this. sec..his busy he said recall me in 30 mins. gotta  be patient then.

btw is gtx 1060 6gb for 516.85$ good? and is gtx 1060 4gb for 287.14$ a good price?

You have not answered my question. 1060 6GB for over 500 is way too expensive and so does 1060 3 GB 

[Blebekblebek]

This isn't a good time to build new computer.

So any GPU price you get isn't a good deal but then again, there are no other option, it just getting worse each day.

 

if you think you can afford it then go for it, if not then wait till you get better deal, or buy used (even used market is dry for maxwell/pascall gpu)

[GrizzlyBear0]

2 minutes ago, deXxterlab97 said:

You have not answered my question. 1060 6GB for over 500 is way too expensive and so does 1060 3 GB 

Sorry. israel. apparently the computer store said there's a 1060 4gb[4gb] For 287.14 is that good.?

and should i tell him. ill take it for.488.14$ the 1060 6gb?

 

[GrizzlyBear0]

2 minutes ago, Blebekblebek said:

This isn't a good time to build new computer.

So any GPU price you get isn't a good deal but then again, there are no other option, it just getting worse each day.

 

if you think you can afford it then go for it, if not then wait till you get better deal, or buy used (even used market is dry for maxwell/pascall gpu)

what's a good price that's not 2 expensive and not 2 cheap for gtx 1060 6 gb and gtx 1060 4gb?

Computer store said 1060 4gb is 287.14$ and 6gb is  516.85$

[Blebekblebek]

There is no GTX 1060 4GB (yet), there are only 3 variant as for now, 6GB, 5GB (only released in china), and 3GB.

it must be GTX 1050 Ti 4GB, it match the price with current market.

 

Either way, it's expensive and you will over limit your budget.

[Crunchy Dragon]

5 hours ago, Blebekblebek said:

There is no GTX 1060 4GB (yet), there are only 3 variant as for now, 6GB, 5GB (only released in china), and 3GB.

it must be GTX 1050 Ti 4GB, it match the price with current market.

 

Either way, it's expensive and you will over limit your budget.

Agreed.

 

Look on the used market for a Kepler(GTX 700) or Maxwell(GTX 900) card

[GrizzlyBear0]

1 hour ago, Crunchy Dragon said:

Agreed.

 

Look on the used market for a Kepler(GTX 700) or Maxwell(GTX 900) card

is gtx 700 or 900 good?. though...

[Crunchy Dragon]

40 minutes ago, GrizzlyBear0 said:

is gtx 700 or 900 good?. though...

Yeah, although those are just the series numbers. Something like a GTX 780/780Ti or GTX 980 would be a good option.

[GrizzlyBear0]

7 minutes ago, Crunchy Dragon said:

Yeah, although those are just the series numbers. Something like a GTX 780/780Ti or GTX 980 would be a good option.

GTX 780 or 980 

Difference? can you tell me all the small details etc

[Crunchy Dragon]

8 minutes ago, GrizzlyBear0 said:

GTX 780 or 980 

Difference? can you tell me all the small details etc

GTX 780 consumes higher power, only has 3Gb VRAM, and is clocked lower(863Mhz base, in the region of 900Mhz boost).

 

GTX 980 consumes less power, has 4Gb VRAM, and is clocked higher(1126Mhz base, 1216Mhz boost).

 

Overall the GTX 980 is better, but may be harder to find at decent pricing(200 USD) since it's good for mining. Kepler series cards like the GTX 780 can be found for pretty good prices since miners can't use them in their rigs. The 780 and 780Ti perform about the same as a 1060 3Gb and are excellent cards for gaming at 1080p.

[GrizzlyBear0]

4 minutes ago, Crunchy Dragon said:

GTX 780 consumes higher power, only has 3Gb VRAM, and is clocked lower(863Mhz base, in the region of 900Mhz boost).

 

GTX 980 consumes less power, has 4Gb VRAM, and is clocked higher(1126Mhz base, 1216Mhz boost).

 

Overall the GTX 980 is better, but may be harder to find at decent pricing(200 USD) since it's good for mining. Kepler series cards like the GTX 780 can be found for pretty good prices since miners can't use them in their rigs. The 780 and 780Ti perform about the same as a 1060 3Gb and are excellent cards for gaming at 1080p.

can you explain this mining thing  total noob here <3

Will GTX 780 though run also new games that will come out in the future 2019 2020 etc...

 

[Crunchy Dragon]

Just now, GrizzlyBear0 said:

can you explain this mining thing  total noob here <3

Mining is a term used to describe running calculations and solving equations through a process called hashing. Every time a hash is completed, a coin is created, such as Bitcoin. Mining is basically what generates bitcoin, ethereum, and all the other cryptocurrencies. Miners are the people who buy all the GPUs since they're better for mining than CPUs. Different GPUs have different hashrates(hashrate = how long it takes a card to finish a hash).

 

Most of the GTX 900-series cards, the GTX 10-series cards, and the RX 400 and 500 series cards are really good for mining due to higher hashrates and lower power consumption. Due to this, miners have been buying a lot of GPUs which is why prices are so high right now.

 

This is also why the GTX 700-series cards like the 780 are really good budget cards since they've gone down in value a fair bit since their release in 2013-14. The 780 doesn't have a very high hashrate, and that series struggled with power efficiency a lot. The GTX 780 draws 250W, which is a fairly high amount, but due to those two reasons miners wouldn't profit from mining with Kepler-based cards. They can usually be found for a pretty low price.

 

Before you ask how much I paid for my GTX 780, I got it for free from a generous friend <3.

[GrizzlyBear0]

1 minute ago, Crunchy Dragon said:

Mining is a term used to describe running calculations and solving equations through a process called hashing. Every time a hash is completed, a coin is created, such as Bitcoin. Mining is basically what generates bitcoin, ethereum, and all the other cryptocurrencies. Miners are the people who buy all the GPUs since they're better for mining than CPUs. Different GPUs have different hashrates(hashrate = how long it takes a card to finish a hash).

 

Most of the GTX 900-series cards, the GTX 10-series cards, and the RX 400 and 500 series cards are really good for mining due to higher hashrates and lower power consumption. Due to this, miners have been buying a lot of GPUs which is why prices are so high right now.

 

This is also why the GTX 700-series cards like the 780 are really good budget cards since they've gone down in value a fair bit since their release in 2013-14. The 780 doesn't have a very high hashrate, and that series struggled with power efficiency a lot. The GTX 780 draws 250W, which is a fairly high amount, but due to those two reasons miners wouldn't profit from mining with Kepler-based cards. They can usually be found for a pretty low price.

 

Before you ask how much I paid for my GTX 780, I got it for free from a generous friend <3.

Will GTX 780 though run also new games that will come out in the future 2019 2020 etc..

that's my main problem. i don't wanna be upgrading. every once in a while. i want my pc to last

[Crunchy Dragon]

Just now, GrizzlyBear0 said:

Will GTX 780 though run also new games that will come out in the future 2019 2020 etc..

that's my main problem. i don't wanna be upgrading. every once in a while. i want my pc to last

It'll run most modern games pretty well with a decent overclock(I got mine to 1105Mhz), but you would be better off with a GTX 980 if you don't want to upgrade in a year or two.

 

I don't run enough demanding games on my GTX 780 so I plan on keeping it around for a few years until I start playing some more demanding games.

[GrizzlyBear0]

1 minute ago, Crunchy Dragon said:

It'll run most modern games pretty well with a decent overclock(I got mine to 1105Mhz), but you would be better off with a GTX 980 if you don't want to upgrade in a year or two.

 

I don't run enough demanding games on my GTX 780 so I plan on keeping it around for a few years until I start playing some more demanding games.

since 980 and 1060 almost same price. which one would you suggest?

[Crunchy Dragon]

Just now, GrizzlyBear0 said:

since 980 and 1060 almost same price. which one would you suggest?

Check the used market in Craigslist or whatever you have in Israel. You should be able to find a GTX 980 or even a 980Ti for a pretty decent price. I see 970s and 980s all the time in my area for 150-175 USD.

[GrizzlyBear0]

Just now, Crunchy Dragon said:

Check the used market in Craigslist or whatever you have in Israel. You should be able to find a GTX 980 or even a 980Ti for a pretty decent price. I see 970s and 980s all the time in my area for 150-175 USD.

but why 980 and why not 1060?

[Crunchy Dragon]

Just now, GrizzlyBear0 said:

but why 980 and why not 1060?

They'll be cheaper even if you're buying used. The 1060 is one of the best value mining cards right now, and have been hard to find for MSRP for quite some time now.

[GrizzlyBear0]

14 minutes ago, Crunchy Dragon said:

They'll be cheaper even if you're buying used. The 1060 is one of the best value mining cards right now, and have been hard to find for MSRP for quite some time now.

i found though a 1060 6gb for about 400$. a pretty decent price i'd say

[Crunchy Dragon]

6 minutes ago, GrizzlyBear0 said:

i found though a 1060 6gb for about 400$. a pretty decent price i'd say

Israeli dollars or USD? In USD, that's pretty high, but still not low enough that I'd get one.

[GrizzlyBear0]

2 minutes ago, Crunchy Dragon said:

Israeli dollars or USD? In USD, that's pretty high, but still not low enough that I'd get one.

well it's 331$-400$ usd.