Ryzen + Vega or Intel + Nvidia

[Baba14yaga]

Hi,

I'm stuck between these two builds:

1) ASUS PG279Q-27" [G-sync]
Intel i7-8700k 
Asus ROG Strix Z370-F 
Cryorig R1 Universal
G.skill Trident Z 16GB 3200Mhz
Gigabyte 1080 WF oc

2) ASUS MG278Q 27" [Freesync]
AMD Ryzen 7 1700 
Asus ROG Strix X370-F 
*Corsair Dom. 16GB 3200Mhz*
Sapphire RX vega 64 

3) PSU: Corsair RM750i
SSD: PNY Phantom 240GB
HDD: Toshiba 1TB 
Fan: Corsair AF120 quiet edition x3
Case: NZXT S340 

* cmd16gx4m2b3200c16 is the only 
available RAM stick which is
compatible with this motherboard. 
I would buy B350-F but I can't find
the compatible RAMs in my country 
Bangladesh.

# The Intel build is expensive due to 
the monitor I can't find any other 
G-SYNC monitor.

[HKZeroFive]

What's the price difference between the two PCs?

[Morgan MLGman]

To be perfectly honest, at that resolution with those GPUs performance in games should be pretty much identical and any potential differences from game to game would be compensated by either FreeSync or G-Sync so overall gaming experience shouldn't really differ IMO.

[Baba14yaga]

16 minutes ago, HKZeroFive said:

What's the price difference between the two PCs?

USD 450 

14 minutes ago, Morgan MLGman said:

To be perfectly honest, at that resolution with those GPUs performance in games should be pretty much identical and any potential differences from game to game would be compensated by either FreeSync or G-Sync so overall gaming experience shouldn't really differ IMO.

So there is a USD 450 difference between these two. I want to keep the PC for 5 years depending on which one is more futureproof.

[Ricardo56]

I do realize I'm a huge idiot when it comes to tech but does coffee lake even benefit from 3200 mhz memory

[HKZeroFive]

3 minutes ago, Baba14yaga said:

USD 450 

So there is a USD 450 difference between these two. I want to keep the PC for 5 years depending on which one is more futureproof.

There's no such thing as future-proofing. The best thing you can do is to buy the best PC that suits your needs now.

 

From a performance standpoint, the i7-8700K + GTX 1080 build is clearly better and the PG279Q has an IPS panel as opposed to the TN one of the MG278Q. Whether or not that's worth the $450 more is subjective.

 

The best "medium" I can suggest is to get the i7-8700K with a RX Vega 56 and pair that with a MG279Q.

[Baba14yaga]

2 minutes ago, Ricardo56 said:

I do realize I'm a huge idiot when it comes to tech but does coffee lake even benefit from 3200 mhz memory

Yes it does https://amp.reddit.com/r/intel/comments/75sg9m/coffee_lake_benefits_greatly_from_faster_ram/

2 minutes ago, HKZeroFive said:

There's no such thing as future-proofing. The best thing you can do is to buy the best PC that suits your needs now.

 

From a performance standpoint, the i7-8700K + GTX 1080 build is clearly better and the PG279Q has an IPS panel as opposed to the TN one of the MG278Q. Whether or not that's worth the $450 more is subjective.

 

The best "medium" I can suggest is to get the i7-8700K with a RX Vega 56 and pair that with a MG279Q.

Oh I see, but the thing is they don't sell RX Vega 56 and MG279Q and can't even import these (taxed to death).

[HKZeroFive]

8 minutes ago, Ricardo56 said:

I do realize I'm a huge idiot when it comes to tech but does coffee lake even benefit from 3200 mhz memory

Intel's processors have always seen performance gains from faster memory. It usually comes in the form of higher minimums, but it also means higher average framerates in CPU-bound scenarios.

 

Digital Foundry has a few videos about the matter. You gain more performance from faster memory than from overclocking your CPU.

[Ricardo56]

Just now, HKZeroFive said:

Intel's processors have always seen performance gains from faster memory. It usually comes in the form of higher minimums, but it also means higher average framerates in CPU-bound scenarios.

 

Digital Foundry has a few videos about the matter. You gain more performance from faster memory than overclocking your CPU.

I thought it was a Ryzen thing

 

good to learn though, thank you

[HKZeroFive]

5 minutes ago, Baba14yaga said:

Oh I see, but the thing is they don't sell RX Vega 56 and MG279Q and can't even import these (taxed to death).

I see. Perhaps the i7-8700K + RX Vega 64 + MG278Q then. It's not IPS, but a 1440p 144Hz monitor with FreeSync is still good.

[Baba14yaga]

11 minutes ago, HKZeroFive said:

I see. Perhaps the i7-8700K + RX Vega 64 + MG278Q then. It's not IPS, but a 1440p 144Hz monitor with FreeSync is still good.

Thanks for this but does it affect the games in any way ?

[HKZeroFive]

Just now, Baba14yaga said:

Thanks for this but does it affect the games in any way ?

Performance-wise, no. But in terms of colour accuracy and viewing angles, IPS panels are generally considered to be better. It's not a huge deal though.

[Baba14yaga]

 

5 minutes ago, HKZeroFive said:

Performance-wise, no. But in terms of colour accuracy and viewing angles, IPS panels are generally considered to be better. It's not a huge deal though.

Thanks again just what I wanted to hear.

[PepeCZ]

I am for: Ryzen 1700 without X and with Vega64.

This setup I has few weeks back, and all was perfect for price this  setup.

 

Now I switch on Threadripper but my previous setup with 1700 and V64 was really okay for this price range.

 

Ryzen with Vega64 cost same or less than Intel and geforce1070 (or Intel and Vega64).

So why buy Intel now

 

Last decade I always bought only Intel (before Ryzen 1700 and now Tr1950x) my last amd cpu was During 900MHz and Athlon64, and from time Athlon64 I bought only Intel..but this year is first after long time when is better pickup Amd setup (for bucks, for money).

 

Only when you can create other pickup is GPU, I using Vega64 because I have very good 144hz VA freesync display. But true is that Nvidia 1080 for fullhd is perfect too (or 1080Ti for 4k). But I love more street power of Vega64 than smaller chip Pascal. But this select is on you. :-)

 

...only one tip, if you pickup amd build, so buy ram 3200MHZ minimal :-) lower speed ram is not good for Ryzen, and higher ram as 3600 etc cost more but speed is not so better versus price (I mean price and speed for 3200, and price and speed of 3600 etc) but lower ram than 3200mhz isn't good because Ryzen love faster ram :-)