No display even during BIOS

[Scott82]

Hello, this is my first post on here and my first time asking a troubleshooting question in general, so sorry in advance if I don't fully explain things right off.

 

Here's what's going on currently:

When I turn on my PC, the fans whirl up and I can hear the HDD going, can hear the DVD drive starting up, and that's it. Nothing on the display, the monitor just keeps saying "No Signal."

 

What I noticed leading up to this:

A couple weeks ago I had to restart the PC due to an update, I got the same problem as explained above but eventually after turning the PC off and on so many times it booted up and displayed just fine. The very next time I had to reboot the problem above happened again and even a week later it still won't display anything.

 

Here's what I've tried so far:

Removing all components other than the Mobo and CPU one at a time (With and without swapping back to the original power supply).

Removing every piece of hardware not necessary to get into the BIOS (kept power supply, mobo, cpu, one stick of RAM and changed throughout my 4 sticks to try each one individually), I tried this with both the original power supply and the corsair.

Clearing the CMOS, both with jumper and by unplugging everything and removing the battery for an hour.

Different HDMI cables, different monitors.

When it booted before and displayed I ran Malwarebytes and nothing was found (at all). The PC had very little use between that and the next reboot where it stopped displaying altogether.

I see no bloated capacitors at all, the CPU doesn't look bulged in any way.

 

My question(s): Is it safe to say at this point that the problem is the MoBo, CPU, or both? Are there still other things to try? Am I missing something obvious? What mobo and cpu (and possibly ram) would you recommend for a budget of $300 to $400 (US), keeping in mind I care about longevity more than raw power (my son mostly plays TF2, it doesn't need to amaze, just last). I won't buy AMD.

 

 

[Scott82]

Another question, is it better to wait for the next generation, as it seems to be coming really soon.

[Quaker]

I've occasionally had problems with flaky HDMI connections. Since you've tried different cables and monitors, the next most likely suspect is the motherboard.

 

I'd try replacing the motherboard, but if it's an older model, it may be better to upgrade to something newer anyway.

I'd recommend an AMD 6-core Ryzen 5, but since you "won't buy AMD" I suppose you can stick to something from Inhell. (i5-7500 or w/e)

[Quaker]

7 minutes ago, Scott82 said:

Another question, is it better to wait for the next generation, as it seems to be coming really soon.

The only "next generation" things  coming soon are the new Intel I9's (and other X299 based chips) and AMD Threadripper. Both of these are multi-core CPUs aimed at content creators.

If you are a gamer stick with the usual I5, I7, R5, or R7

[JoostinOnline]

12 minutes ago, Scott82 said:

My question(s): Is it safe to say at this point that the problem is the MoBo, CPU, or both? Are there still other things to try? Am I missing something obvious? What mobo and cpu (and possibly ram) would you recommend for a budget of $300 to $400 (US), keeping in mind I care about longevity more than raw power (my son mostly plays TF2, it doesn't need to amaze, just last). I won't buy AMD.

Just be aware that the days of AMD sucking are over.  With fast RAM, Ryzen does better than Intel pretty much everywhere.  Especially since developers have been rolling out patches with Ryzen optimizations.  As a previous Intel fanboy who would never recommend an AMD CPU, I can tell you that there is practically no reason to go Intel now.  Especially if you want longevity.  Extra threads are proving to be more and more useful.  12 threads from Ryzen are better than the 4 threads you'll get with an i5.

[Scott82]

Thanks for the responses, it seems as though the consensus is that I'm correct in thinking that it's the Mobo/CPU. My issue with AMD is that in the past they just didn't last long. I don't have the time or knowledge or time to gain the knowledge of water cooling to implement that and AMD used to run really hot making them not last long with a stock cooler. Have they fixed that particular issue? Do they still run crazy hot and burn themselves out over time?

 

With Intel, I could go with 6th gen and keep my RAM or go to 7th and I would need to replace it. Is 7th gen and ddr4 really worth that price difference considering I want it to last about 4 years VS It's for my son and while spoiled he's just a kid and might overheat it (this is what I think happened before, I think it was due to him leaving games running when not using the computer, sometimes for over a day). I realize that this gets into opinion, but opinions are usually valuable. I'm just frustrated with the situation and torn between the generations as there was the switch in RAM and with that the added cost. Maybe this should just come down to whether or not I trust my son to not burn out a new mobo and cpu.

[Quaker]

I'd go for 6th generation and keep the RAM.

 

In regards to AMDs running hot - I never had any problems with AMDs not lasting, except for some instances where people tried to overclock them too much (particularly the old FX series)

Overdriving and creating excessive heat can shorten the life of any CPU - Intel, AMD, or whoever.

 

 

[JoostinOnline]

38 minutes ago, Scott82 said:

Thanks for the responses, it seems as though the consensus is that I'm correct in thinking that it's the Mobo/CPU. My issue with AMD is that in the past they just didn't last long. I don't have the time or knowledge or time to gain the knowledge of water cooling to implement that and AMD used to run really hot making them not last long with a stock cooler. Have they fixed that particular issue? Do they still run crazy hot and burn themselves out over time?

They fixed that.  They aren't power hungry anymore either.  That being said, they can't overclock very well.  Of course, you can't overclock most Intel chips at all anyway.

 

The stock cooler is pretty decent.  It's comparable to (if not quite as good as) the Hyper 212 Evo, which is a very popular budget-friendly cooler.  It's a little ugly though, so you might consider replacing it if you've got a windowed case.  It is NOT included in the 1600X though.

 

Keep in mind this was before developers started rolling out Ryzen patches.

 

The most important thing with Ryzen is to get FAST RAM.  Without it, it doesn't do that good when compared to an i5.  If you look at benchmarks where they're running 2400MHz RAM, the i5 is a winner.

[0x1e]

Are you using a GPU, or iGPU?