Which volume?

[RhysMusique]

Hey all,

 

So yesterday I did a clean install of Windows 10 on an SSD in my system, this shall be called 'SSD install' from now on. All went well, and drivers were installed fine when it was on, apart from one small problem that I have.

 

There's still my original install of windows on my WD Green HDD, this shall be called 'HDD install' from now on.

Now, when booting, up comes up a light blue coloured screen, with the option to 'Select which volume to run Windows from', and then lists a Windows 10 install on 'Volume 1', and a Windows 10 install on 'Volume 3'. Now, through trial and error, I found out that 'Volume 1' referred to 'SSD install' and that therefore 'Volume 3' referred to 'HDD install'. 

I did a bit more digging in the BIOS, and found out that only one drive shows in the boot order, and somehow I have to choose whether I want 'P2 - WD HDD' or 'P1 - Kingston SSD' as my boot drive, there is no option to have a boot order. Whatever I click, it tells me I am booting off of the HDD, but the speeds of the boot tell me otherwise.

I don't want to unplug my HDD as it is 1TB of good storage space, and I'd always like my old windows install as a quick backup. How do I just bypass this 'select volume' page?

 

Thanks,

Rhys

[Anghammarad]

It is the bootloader. While setting up the new windows on the ssd the setup routine recognized the old installation. Then you get both to chose from at startup.

 

There are tools to change that. But the last time I did that with a windows 10 installation, Windows 10 wasn't happy at all.

 

The thing that would have prevented that is unplugging the old disk before installing on the new one. Then after the successful installation you can plug it back in.

 

[BubblyCharizard]

6 minutes ago, RhysMusique said:

but the speeds of the boot tell me otherwise.

the bootloader is so small, it would load on UEFI well before you would know

[RhysMusique]

2 minutes ago, Anghammarad said:

It is the bootloader. While setting up the new windows on the ssd the setup routine recognized the old installation. Then you get both to chose from at startup.

 

There are tools to change that. But the last time I did that with a windows 10 installation, Windows 10 wasn't happy at all.

 

The thing that would have prevented that is unplugging the old disk before installing on the new one.

So would you recommend formatting my SSD and just doing the clean install again, this time with the HDD unplugged? - It doesn't matter about time or effort to be honest, I have all evening after work to do it, just want it to work seamlessly to be honest.

Could you also help me out with another thing?...
- Now when trying to access my old user profile on the HDD, from the new 'SSD install', it's locked because I am not an Administrator? I click the continue as Administrator button in a prompt box that comes up, but it's ineffectual, nothing actually happens?

[RhysMusique]

2 minutes ago, BubblyCharizard said:

the bootloader is so small, it would load on UEFI well before you would know

I think with the boot speeds I was referring to the fact that it was booting much faster than my HDD ever has in the past 3 years, so it must've been the SSD install that was booting. 

[DnFx91]

you could use a 3rd party bootloader like GRUB or PLOP, they are fairly customisable. but messing with windows boot sector often doesn't go well

[Anghammarad]

1 hour ago, RhysMusique said:

So would you recommend formatting my SSD and just doing the clean install again, this time with the HDD unplugged? - It doesn't matter about time or effort to be honest, I have all evening after work to do it, just want it to work seamlessly to be honest.

Could you also help me out with another thing?...
- Now when trying to access my old user profile on the HDD, from the new 'SSD install', it's locked because I am not an Administrator? I click the continue as Administrator button in a prompt box that comes up, but it's ineffectual, nothing actually happens?

If you don't want that behavior you talked about in the first post, having to chose which to boot, yes, I would start over. 

 

And for accessing the old user profile, it has a completely different SID. So the Administrator from the old system isn't the administrator of the new one. If clicking "do it as admin" doesn't work, you need to take the ownership of the folder. in advanced security options.

[RhysMusique]

1 minute ago, Anghammarad said:

And for accessing the old user profile, it has a completely different SID. So the Administrator from the old system isn't the administrator of the new one. If clicking "do it as admin" doesn't work, you need to take the ownership of the folder. in advanced security options.

Are the advanced security options in the preferences of the folder, or in the general windows settings?

Thanks for your help by the way!

[Anghammarad]

right click on the folder you want to access => properties => security tab => Advanced button (down right) => next to Owner click change => select the existing user you are logged on with and hit ok => place the hook on the bottom and hit OK. 

 

Afterwards you can add your user to the fullaccess list. recursive again. And then you should see everything but hidden folders and files if not deactivated in the settings.

[RhysMusique]

8 minutes ago, Anghammarad said:

right click on the folder you want to access => properties => security tab => Advanced button (down right) => next to Owner click change => select the existing user you are logged on with and hit ok => place the hook on the bottom and hit OK. 

 

Afterwards you can add your user to the fullaccess list. recursive again. And then you should see everything but hidden folders and files if not deactivated in the settings.

Thank you! In both installs, the account is called 'Administrator - (my microsoft account)' - allowing me to quickly activate windows etc, by using the same login microsoft account? Would this be a problem, considering that i'd literally just be replacing the microsoft account of the old install with the identical microsoft account of the new one?

[Anghammarad]

How you log on, or if you connect your microsoft account isn't changing the need to take the ownership. It is a different installation, a different windows with another unique ID (the windows itself) 

[RhysMusique]

Just now, Anghammarad said:

How you log on, or if you connect your microsoft account isn't changing the need to take the ownership. It is a different installation, a different windows with another unique ID (the windows itself) 

Okay, I was just wondering what to actually type in for 'Enter the object name to select'? 

[Anghammarad]

Just now, RhysMusique said:

Okay, I was just wondering what to actually type in for 'Enter the object name to select'? 

Usually, the account name you are logged on with is the best option =) 

[RhysMusique]

1 minute ago, Anghammarad said:

Usually, the account name you are logged on with is the best option =) 

And just to double check, this account name is fine to be the exact same wording as the account name I previously had the privileges with on the other install? Both installs' account names are identical.

Sorry for being such a noob at this, software is not something I'm all that good at, I like building PCs for the hardware installation

[Anghammarad]

yes... again =) 

 

The administrator account is created by default with every windows installation. Even though local administrators are not the same on different installations due to the machine sid being different and with that the administrator sid even if it is the same.