ryzen Ryzen 5 build help

[He_162]

I have been making plans for a Ryzen 5 build at or around 400$. (USD) ---I get paid next friday April 21st (So I'd like to get it around a week after that, or so.)

 

(MOTHERBOARD, CPU, AND RAM ARE THE ONLY PARTS REQUIRED)

 

I would like a Ryzen processor, motherboard, and 8gb kit of ram, it does not matter how many dimms there are, as long as it is no more than 2.

 

That being said, I want a 6 core, and I have a few other questions, which will be listed below:

-What are the benefits of the 1600x over the non X variant, other than the higher clock speeds and higher XFR boost?
-Are the VRM's on the B350 boards not good enough to run a Ryzen CPU at 4ghz or higher?
-Will I have to worry about overheating the Ryzen processor with the stock air cooler in light overclocks? (3.8ghz? @1.375v?)
-What kind of aesthetics should I go for in this build? I have a black coolermaster case, forgot which one, I'll include a photo in the comments later on but it's just black, with some blue fans, and I'd like to clean it up a bit, make it look nice.

[He_162]

I included it in the CPU & motherboard section because of the CPU and Motherboard questions, I can and probably will turn it into a build log when I start getting the parts, in which case I will make a thread in the "build logs" section of the forum.

[xXNadThuXx]

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Will I have to worry about overheating the Ryzen processor with the stock air cooler in light overclocks? (3.8ghz? @1.375v?)

Personally, I think that you would not have to worry about overheating the Ryzen processor in an overclock of 3.8 gigahertz at 1.375 volts with the stock air cooler. You should probably expect temperatures around 40° at idle, and 85° under load. For more information, check out this website I found: http://www.techspot.com/review/1379-and-ryzen-5-1600x-1500x/page7.html Hope I helped!

 

~xXNadThuXx

 

P.S. I'll try to find the answers to your other questions! 

[ItsTurbo]

If you're overclocking, I would recommend getting a better cooler than the stock one. The Cooler Master 212 Evo is cheap, but tried and true in most if not all use cases. 

You're better off with the 1600 if you're overclocking. If you overclock, XFR is diabled, so your $50 for the X goes to the trash can.

 

From a quick googling session it looks like the only benefit from X370 instead of the B350 chipset is SLI and more USB ports. So overclocking looks like it isn't affected.

 

For aesthetics I would stick with black and blue, since you've already got blue led fans and a black case.

 

Good luck!

[stealth80]

You should look for a board with external clock generator to allow for BLCK overclock, however that won't be achievable in your budget (wasn't in mine either as I went for the 1700) - Those are Asus Crosshair, AsRock Taichi, Gigabyte K5/K7

[xXNadThuXx]

@stealth80 I agree. With that fairly low budget, there aren't many good options around, for you. I made a quick part list on PCPP, which added up to $615 (US). If you want to tinker around with that, here is the link: https://pcpartpicker.com/user/xXNadThuXx/saved/xNczyc

 

~xXNadThuXx

[Shura]

41 minutes ago, He_162 said:

I have been making plans for a Ryzen 5 build at or around 400$. (USD) ---I get paid next friday April 21st (So I'd like to get it around a week after that, or so.)

 

I would like a Ryzen processor, motherboard, and 8gb kit of ram, it does not matter how many dimms there are, as long as it is no more than 2.

 

That being said, I want a 6 core, and I have a few other questions, which will be listed below:

-What are the benefits of the 1600x over the non X variant, other than the higher clock speeds and higher XFR boost?
-Are the VRM's on the B350 boards not good enough to run a Ryzen CPU at 4ghz or higher?
-Will I have to worry about overheating the Ryzen processor with the stock air cooler in light overclocks? (3.8ghz? @1.375v?)
-What kind of aesthetics should I go for in this build? I have a black coolermaster case, forgot which one, I'll include a photo in the comments later on but it's just black, with some blue fans, and I'd like to clean it up a bit, make it look nice.

Will you be reusing any parts like HDD, GPU, Power Supply, Case? or is this a completely new build? $400 for R5 1600 build is extremely low. Going with the cheapest motherboard, cheapest 6 core and cheapest decent ram, you are already at $344.

 

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DwwmvV
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DwwmvV/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($218.39 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock AB350M-HDV Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($69.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2800 Memory  ($55.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $344.37
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-04-17 19:43 EDT-0400

[stealth80]

11 minutes ago, xXNadThuXx said:

@stealth80 I agree. With that fairly low budget, there aren't many good options around, for you. I made a quick part list on PCPP, which added up to $615 (US). If you want to tinker around with that, here is the link: https://pcpartpicker.com/user/xXNadThuXx/saved/xNczyc

 

~xXNadThuXx

Well if budget allows (it does if OP only needs Cpu, board and ram) needs to be 3200mhz ram

[Shura]

2 minutes ago, stealth80 said:

Well if budget allows (it does if OP only needs Cpu, board and ram) needs to be 3200mhz ram

Doesn't need to be, but a performance boost if it is. Problem is the budget because of the state of Ryzen boards atm; even on more higher-end boards, getting the rated RAM speed is hard.

[He_162]

2 hours ago, Shura said:

Will you be reusing any parts like HDD, GPU, Power Supply, Case? or is this a completely new build? $400 for R5 1600 build is extremely low. Going with the cheapest motherboard, cheapest 6 core and cheapest decent ram, you are already at $344.

 

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DwwmvV
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DwwmvV/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($218.39 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock AB350M-HDV Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($69.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2800 Memory  ($55.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $344.37
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-04-17 19:43 EDT-0400

I will reuse everything except for the motherboard, ram and CPU, which will be my "upgrade"

The motherboard has to be from MSI, or ASUS, I'm picky.

2 hours ago, Shura said:

Doesn't need to be, but a performance boost if it is. Problem is the budget because of the state of Ryzen boards atm; even on more higher-end boards, getting the rated RAM speed is hard.

All MSI and ASUS B350 boards support 3200mhz ram from what I've heard, and they seemingly work without issues based on most reviews I have seen in the past week.

[Shura]

3 minutes ago, He_162 said:

I will reuse everything except for the motherboard, ram and CPU, which will be my "upgrade"

 

The motherboard has to be from MSI, or ASUS, I'm picky.

Okay, if you are reusing, then it makes things easier.

 

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/r2pzRG
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/r2pzRG/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($218.39 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: MSI B350 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($97.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $396.36
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-04-17 19:58 EDT-0400

[He_162]

Just now, Shura said:

Okay, if you are reusing, then it makes things easier.

 

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/r2pzRG
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/r2pzRG/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($218.39 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: MSI B350 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($97.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $396.36
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-04-17 19:58 EDT-0400

It looks like the total budget is going to be 450$ (470 with shipping + taxes if that's an issue)

However, i'd like to shave it down as much as possible, keep it under 500$ please.

Is the Mortar any better than the Tomahawk, or worse?

[xXNadThuXx]

6 minutes ago, He_162 said:

I will reuse everything except for the motherboard, ram and CPU, which will be my "upgrade"

 

The motherboard has to be from MSI, or ASUS, I'm picky.

In that case, this PCPP part list would probably work pretty well:

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/xXNadThuXx/saved/xNczyc

[Shura]

2 minutes ago, He_162 said:

It looks like the total budget is going to be 450$ (470 with shipping + taxes if that's an issue)

However, i'd like to shave it down as much as possible, keep it under 500$ please.

Is the Mortar any better than the Tomahawk, or worse?

It's not a bad board but worse than Tomahawk. thought the prices included tax and shipping, does it differ for your state? I'm in Canada so not sure how it works between states.

[JoostinOnline]

The motherboard and CPU alone will take up 3/4 of your budget.  You need to save some money and revisit this, or go with something a lot weaker.

 

Edit: Never mind, just saw you already have some old parts.

[xXNadThuXx]

@JoostinOnline Well, all that he really needs, is a CPU, motherboard, and some RAM.

[JoostinOnline]

1 minute ago, xXNadThuXx said:

@JoostinOnline Well, all that he really needs, is a CPU, motherboard, and some RAM.

I realized that right after posting. I skimmed through the topic too fast. 

[He_162]

2 hours ago, Shura said:

It's not a bad board but worse than Tomahawk. thought the prices included tax and shipping, does it differ for your state? I'm in Canada so not sure how it works between states.

I just realized the Mortar was just a mATX version of the Tomahawk, so I'll get the Tomahawk, it's only 5$ more at 100$ with shipping and stuff.

2 hours ago, JoostinOnline said:

I realized that right after posting. I skimmed through the topic too fast. 

I clarified in the OP.

[JoostinOnline]

You might find this useful.

[He_162]

1 minute ago, JoostinOnline said:

You might find this useful.

Wow 40$ off almost! Nice! I'm definitely using this.

[stealth80]

28 minutes ago, He_162 said:

All MSI and ASUS B350 boards support 3200mhz ram from what I've heard, and they seemingly work without issues based on most reviews I have seen in the past week.

It needs to be low cas though, none of the reviewers are saying this, non Samsung b die doesn't play nice, mine is sat at 2666mhz and its rated for 3200mhz