Hyper x Cloud or Hyper x Cloud IIs?

[Dr0pp3r]

I'm just wondering which one of these headsets are worth it? I know that the only feature you get with the Cloud II is Dolby Surround Sound, but does that change anything during gaming?

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1 minute ago, bazookaman36 said:

I'm just wondering which one of these headsets are worth it? I know that the only feature you get with the Cloud II is Dolby Surround Sound, but does that change anything during gaming?

I got the Cloud II's simply because they were a generation newer and on sale. They're pretty legit, I don't really notice the Dolby - I think it's mostly a gimmick. But the sound quality overall is pretty good so all in all I'd get the II's.

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Just now, Stylized_Violence said:

I got the Cloud II's simply because they were a generation newer and on sale. They're pretty legit, I don't really notice the Dolby - I think it's mostly a gimmick. But the sound quality overall is pretty good so all in all I'd get the II's.

 

Can the Cloud II's compare to something like an Audio Technica ATH M50x?

[Spuriae]

Get the standard clouds. The USB dongle that comes with the Cloud II's doesn't sound good, and "surround sound" isn't going to help you (even if you needed it, Razer's surround sound software is free and works with any headphones). 

 

Refurbished Clouds are also incredibly cheap:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/HyperX-Cloud-Core-Pro-Gaming-Headset-for-PC-Xbox-One-PS4-RE-CERTIFIED-/172509689710

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The dolby surround from the included dac is pretty garbage, and in many games just obfuscates sound way too much, making almost everything sound as though its about 3 ft behind you.

 

As long as they're the same price, i would still get the cloud IIs though, simply because its a generation newer, and in the few occasions where the simulated surround is nice, it would be beneficial to have.

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4 minutes ago, Stylized_Violence said:

I got the Cloud II's simply because they were a generation newer and on sale. They're pretty legit, I don't really notice the Dolby - I think it's mostly a gimmick. But the sound quality overall is pretty good so all in all I'd get the II's.

 

2 minutes ago, Atmos said:

The dolby surround from the included dac is pretty garbage, and in many games just obfuscates sound way too much, making almost everything sound as though its about 3 ft behind you.

 

As long as they're the same price, i would still get the cloud IIs though, simply because its a generation newer, and in the few occasions where the simulated surround is nice, it would be beneficial to have.

The Cloud II's and Cloud Cores are the exact same headphones, just with different accessories.

4 minutes ago, bazookaman36 said:

Can the Cloud II's compare to something like an Audio Technica ATH M50x?

I liked the Takstar Pro 80's (OEM Clouds) more than the M50's in an AB test. That has more to do with sound signature than quality; although the M50's felt technically better (better transients, more bass extension), the Takstars have a wider soundstage and a less recessed midrange with a slightly rolled-off treble instead of the M50's sibilance. I fatigued with the M50's; I didn't with the Clouds.

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1 minute ago, Nimrodor said:

 

The Cloud II's and Cloud Cores are the exact same headphones, just with different accessories.

 

I never said they were different? If he's buying new though, and they're the same price, then what's the problem with getting a slightly more updated dac?

The included one is well, a standard cheap dac, but like I said having that SS in the few situations it won't just make things worse, then it would be nice to have.

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5 minutes ago, Atmos said:

I never said they were different? If he's buying new though, and they're the same price, then what's the problem with getting a slightly more updated dac?

The included one is well, a standard cheap dac, but like I said having that SS in the few situations it won't just make things worse, then it would be nice to have.

Onboard audio is better than the included dongle in almost all cases. It's very low quality. Better to never get it so you're never tempted to use the thing.

 

Razer's surround sound is also free here for any headphones:

https://www.razerzone.com/surround

 

In other words, you're paying extra for the option of worse audio with the Cloud II's.

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1 minute ago, Nimrodor said:

Onboard audio is better than the included dongle in almost all cases. It's very low quality. Better to never get it so you're never tempted to use the thing.

 

Razer's surround sound is also free here for any headphones:

https://www.razerzone.com/surround

 

In other words, you're paying extra for the option of worse audio with the Cloud II's.

Just... one issue...

The included cable on the cloud without the dac is very short, only a few feet long, so often running it to your rear io isn't an option, and the front audio connector can often introduce static.

That and... it requires a 4 pole audio connection for the integrated microphone to function, and many front panel audio ports are only 3 pole, same goes often for motherboard rear io.

 

You'd more than likely have to buy an adapter and extension if you planned to use it without the included dac.

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5 minutes ago, Atmos said:

Just... one issue...

The included cable on the cloud without the dac is very short, only a few feet long, so often running it to your rear io isn't an option, and the front audio connector can often introduce static.

That and... it requires a 4 pole audio connection for the integrated microphone to function, and many front panel audio ports are only 3 pole, same goes often for motherboard rear io.

 

You'd more than likely have to buy an adapter and extension if you planned to use it without the included dac.

Spoiler

 

This is the extender included with the Cloud Cores. The Cloud I's also have a similar extension cable.

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2 minutes ago, Nimrodor said:

 

This is the extender included with the Cloud Cores. The Cloud I's also have a similar extension cable.

Welp, then that makes it an excellent option.

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12 hours ago, bazookaman36 said:

Can the Cloud II's compare to something like an Audio Technica ATH M50x?

I have no idea on that point, I'm far from an audiophile. I just needed a decent pair so I wouldn't bug my wife on my late night gaming sessions, and these so far have fit the bill.