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I went into windows disk management and simply took the drive giving me problems offline then did my backup, everything works fine now

though I'm not sure how the image will behave in a VM environment just yet... I know the system itself would be fine but it might still treat the drive as offline making me re-enable it each time I want to use it in the VM though considering it's just a game drive (steam, desura, origin, glyph, uplay, battle.net, etc) I don't imagine myself needing the drive in a VM environment...

I just picked up a couple new drives, and after setting them up they're already messing with me.

I have a 4x 4tb drives and 2x 250gb ssd's. One of the ssd's being the newest addition and a new 4tb hybrid drive along with it.

While I still haven't made up my mind to do raid0 with the ssd's or use one as a cache for my game drive it seems to be doing alright for now.

My problem is I decided before I do anything I'd make a new full system image and put it on the 2tb hybrid drive this new 4tb is replacing.

 

The new 4tb drive is listed as a system disk, when the 2tb was not and all I did was copy the data over and swap drive letters.

I don't see what I did wrong with the partition or the data transfer.

I don't know how or why it's acting like this and was hoping someone might now how I can fix it.

bonus point for recommendations on what to do with the new ssd.

 

initialized and partitioned using windows 7 disk management, data transferred with teracopy verified with crc checks

 

 

worst case I'll use true image or something to image instead, though it would irk me if that were what it came down to.

 

seems one of the digital distributors installed some services and they're what's holding me back

 

 

Edit Oct, 27 2015: working/viable solution

I went into windows disk management and simply took the drive giving me problems offline then did my backup, everything works fine now

though I'm not sure how the image will behave in a VM environment just yet... I know the system itself would be fine but it might still treat the drive as offline making me re-enable it each time I want to use it in the VM though considering it's just a game drive (steam, desura, origin, glyph, uplay, battle.net, etc) I don't imagine myself needing the drive in a VM environment...

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Hey there biotoxin,
 
Although RAID0 offers good speed boost for some types of usage, other things like gaming hardly benefit from it. Moreover it increases the risk of data loss and provides no redundancy whatsoever so in case a drive drops out of the array, corrupts data or simply fails, you'd lose everything on the whole array. I would recommend either using them separately or getting a single larger SSD.
 
I would try to back up everything to a storage drive and do a fresh install of the OS and the most demanding applications in order to fully utilize the benefits of the SSD's capabilities and avoid any potential compatibility issues and driver problems. :)
 
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Hey there biotoxin,
 
Although RAID0 offers good speed boost for some types of usage, other things like gaming hardly benefit from it. Moreover it increases the risk of data loss and provides no redundancy whatsoever so in case a drive drops out of the array, corrupts data or simply fails, you'd lose everything on the whole array. I would recommend either using them separately or getting a single larger SSD.
 
I would try to back up everything to a storage drive and do a fresh install of the OS and the most demanding applications in order to fully utilize the benefits of the SSD's capabilities and avoid any potential compatibility issues and driver problems. :)
 
Captain_WD.

 

 

I wasn't much planning on using the raid0 for gaming purposes, and as I did mention I am doing full image backups of the drive/s and potentially array so data loss is not a concern with my raid. So I'll mark your comment as a vote for using the drive as a cache though...

 

considering I was going to upgrade to 10 anyway a clean install is probably in order

though I'd still rather do an image prior to the upgrade... as it is I did one using true image last night just to get it done, still working on eliminating the errant service causing me the headache.

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CPU: TR3960x enermax 360 AIO Mobo: Aorus Master RAM: 128gb ddr4 trident z royal PSU: Seasonic Prime 1300w GPU: 5700xt, 5500xt, rx590 Case: c700p black edition Display: Asus MG279Q ETC: Living the VM life many accessories as needed Storage: My personal cluster is now over 100tb!

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I think I'm going to go raid0, clean install win10, and use it to run a vm of my win7 image when I'm feeling like it...

anyone thoughts?

 

my specific board has issues with SSD's in raid0 and apparently also won't pass trim commands along either, so that just went right out the window

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CPU: TR3960x enermax 360 AIO Mobo: Aorus Master RAM: 128gb ddr4 trident z royal PSU: Seasonic Prime 1300w GPU: 5700xt, 5500xt, rx590 Case: c700p black edition Display: Asus MG279Q ETC: Living the VM life many accessories as needed Storage: My personal cluster is now over 100tb!

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working/viable solution

I went into windows disk management and simply took the drive giving me problems offline then did my backup, everything works fine now

though I'm not sure how the image will behave in a VM environment just yet... I know the system itself would be fine but it might still treat the drive as offline making me re-enable it each time I want to use it in the VM though considering it's just a game drive (steam, desura, origin, glyph, uplay, battle.net, etc) I don't imagine myself needing the drive in a VM environment...

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CPU: TR3960x enermax 360 AIO Mobo: Aorus Master RAM: 128gb ddr4 trident z royal PSU: Seasonic Prime 1300w GPU: 5700xt, 5500xt, rx590 Case: c700p black edition Display: Asus MG279Q ETC: Living the VM life many accessories as needed Storage: My personal cluster is now over 100tb!

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I'm glad you found a way around this. You shouldn't have to re-enable it every time, but do try this and post back with the results. I would imagine it would really depend on the VM and the type of backup but it shouldn't be a problem. :)
 
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took me a while to figure out the built in VM in win10, think I'll be sticking with more professional VM software in the future...

Once I got the VM working the image loaded fine and I used it to setup apps I had in win7 that I need like firefox profiles and session information

rough start but a smooth finish all around

 

edited for clarity

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took me a while to figure out the built in VM in win10, think I'll be sticking with more professional VM software in the future...

It seems to be working fine though, already setup what I needed from the image, namely  my firefox profiles and session information

rough start but a smooth finish all around

 

Do tweak with it for a while and post back with some comments :) Did you solve the problem with the drive? MS's support may have a solution and contacting them could be useful :)
 
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I made an edit for clarification, I got the vm to work and load the image and it worked perfectly without having to turn the drive back online

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CPU: TR3960x enermax 360 AIO Mobo: Aorus Master RAM: 128gb ddr4 trident z royal PSU: Seasonic Prime 1300w GPU: 5700xt, 5500xt, rx590 Case: c700p black edition Display: Asus MG279Q ETC: Living the VM life many accessories as needed Storage: My personal cluster is now over 100tb!

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