Good passive speakers?

[Gershy13]

Hi Guys,

 

Does anyone know of a pair of good passive speakers? For not too expensive..

I got an amp for free (mcfarlow amp600) (sometimes called Ibiza amp600) and want to find some decent speakers that will sound ok.

Im looking for about £60ish around there... (for 2)

 

Also, i found a deal on a Pioneer passive sub for £5! that is a steal, if it works or not i dont care, its worth a try...

will i be able to power that from this amp? and can i get 2 speakers and this sub working somehow? the sub is 8ohms 100w i think. the amp is 2x320@8ohms and 2x480@4ohms.

 

How can i do this?

 

 

Thanks

Gershy13

[X_Rated_Box]

Hi Guys,

 

Does anyone know of a pair of good passive speakers? For not too expensive..

I got an amp for free (mcfarlow amp600) (sometimes called Ibiza amp600) and want to find some decent speakers that will sound ok.

Im looking for about £60ish around there... (for 2)

 

Also, i found a deal on a Pioneer passive sub for £5! that is a steal, if it works or not i dont care, its worth a try...

will i be able to power that from this amp? and can i get 2 speakers and this sub working somehow? the sub is 8ohms 100w i think. the amp is 2x320@8ohms and 2x480@4ohms.

 

How can i do this?

 

 

Thanks

Gershy13

Im jealous of your deals

but Im sorry, no i cant help you with your speakers:D

[Gershy13]

Im jealous of your deals

but Im sorry, no i cant help you with your speakers:D

lol yh i thought someone might appreciate this lol:

http://www.richersounds.com/product/subwoofers/pioneer/sslw500/pion-s-slw500

its UK only tho...

[Gershy13]

Im jealous of your deals

but Im sorry, no i cant help you with your speakers:D

its a decent amp, havent tested it yet, dont know if it works lol

[Peter Vaughan Truslow]

Hi Guys,

 

Does anyone know of a pair of good passive speakers? For not too expensive..

I got an amp for free (mcfarlow amp600) (sometimes called Ibiza amp600) and want to find some decent speakers that will sound ok.

Im looking for about £60ish around there... (for 2)

 

Also, i found a deal on a Pioneer passive sub for £5! that is a steal, if it works or not i dont care, its worth a try...

will i be able to power that from this amp? and can i get 2 speakers and this sub working somehow? the sub is 8ohms 100w i think. the amp is 2x320@8ohms and 2x480@4ohms.

 

How can i do this?

 

 

Thanks

Gershy13

that's a pretty darn powerful amp. unfortunately although there is a way to power that sub with that amp using a crossover and then parallelling the outputs of the crossover, it would be really terribly hacked together and would probably make something, somewhere in the universe explode.

as far as speakers are concerned, I don't even know what retailers to start looking at in the UK other than amazon.

[X_Rated_Box]

lol yh i thought someone might appreciate this lol:

http://www.richersounds.com/product/subwoofers/pioneer/sslw500/pion-s-slw500

its UK only tho...

[Gershy13]

that's a pretty darn powerful amp. unfortunately although there is a way to power that sub with that amp using a crossover and then parallelling the outputs of the crossover, it would be really terribly hacked together and would probably make something, somewhere in the universe explode.

as far as speakers are concerned, I don't even know what retailers to start looking at in the UK other than amazon.

i think it has a built in crossover...

[Peter Vaughan Truslow]

i think it has a built in crossover...

passive subs usually don't, and connecting both channels to one input is tricky to get right, and easy to get wrong, especially when complicated by having speakers connected as well.

[Gershy13]

Crossover Freq (Hz) The highest point at which bass is produced from. Use this figure to match to your speakers.

35 - 2000

 

it says that...

 

also, i will use a mono adapter....

[Gershy13]

Also, can i connect speakers with a lower wattage than the amp? or is that bad? how do i get it right? 

[Stagea]

Also, can i connect speakers with a lower wattage than the amp? or is that bad? how do i get it right? 

 

You surely can. Just adjust the volume (or gain structure) so as not to overdrive them. How loud are you looking at playing?

 

 

 

Does anyone know of a pair of good passive speakers? For not too expensive..

I got an amp for free (mcfarlow amp600) (sometimes called Ibiza amp600) and want to find some decent speakers that will sound ok.

Im looking for about £60ish around there... (for 2)

 

 

Here's a pretty good pair for that price:

http://www.richersounds.com/product/standmount-speakers/mission/mx1/miss-mx1-blk

 

 

Also, i found a deal on a Pioneer passive sub for £5! that is a steal, if it works or not i dont care, its worth a try...

will i be able to power that from this amp? and can i get 2 speakers and this sub working somehow? the sub is 8ohms 100w i think. the amp is 2x320@8ohms and 2x480@4ohms.

 

 

The nominal impedance of that subwoofer is too low to put in parallel with your other speakers (at least without a crossover). If you really want to put it in and not add a separate amplifier, you'd need to build a passive crossover for best results (and maybe get 2 of those subs for balanced channel loading). You may still need to equalize the output afterwards.

 

If you're dead set on using that sub, I suggest using your existing amp for the subwoofers then get another amp for your main speakers (one that has pre-outs preferably for amp daisy-chaining).

[Gershy13]

You surely can. Just adjust the volume (or gain structure) so as not to overdrive them. How loud are you looking at playing?

 

 

 

Here's a pretty good pair for that price:

http://www.richersounds.com/product/standmount-speakers/mission/mx1/miss-mx1-blk

 

 

 

The nominal impedance of that subwoofer is too low to put in parallel with your other speakers (at least without a crossover). If you really want to put it in and not add a separate amplifier, you'd need to build a passive crossover for best results (and maybe get 2 of those subs for balanced channel loading). You may still need to equalize the output afterwards.

 

If you're dead set on using that sub, I suggest using your existing amp for the subwoofers then get another amp for your main speakers (one that has pre-outs preferably for amp daisy-chaining).

nahh, i skipped the sub, because i couldnt drive em, dont have an amp that has 3 channel, so ill have to buy an amp, so... yh i left it

the sub is actually 4ohms.

 

Would those speakers be any good for normal music and monitoring of editing audio? would like it to have some bass. and i dont plan to put them too loud, just enough for a medium sized room at normal volume

 

thanks, my bro told me that one of his friends said you cant put lower wattage speakers to an higher amp cos itll blow em... lol

 

Ill look in to speakers, but if you can suggest some in the UK (or thomann.de) that are good for music listening (with a bit of punchy bass) and monitoring audio (we record a lot of songs...)

 

 

Thanks

Gershy13

[Stagea]

nahh, i skipped the sub, because i couldnt drive em, dont have an amp that has 3 channel, so ill have to buy an amp, so... yh i left it

the sub is actually 4ohms.

 

The sub is indeed rated as a 4 ohm nominal load, but if you run it in parallel with a set of speakers, the effective load on the amp will be much lower than that.

 

 

 

 

Would those speakers be any good for normal music and monitoring of editing audio? would like it to have some bass. and i dont plan to put them too loud, just enough for a medium sized room at normal volume

 

Ill look in to speakers, but if you can suggest some in the UK (or thomann.de) that are good for music listening (with a bit of punchy bass) and monitoring audio (we record a lot of songs...)

 

These are forgiving speakers that can compensate for the typically aggressive sound of some PA gear (like your amp). They are more for music listening than monitoring. Though they can be used for monitoring in a squeeze, studio monitor speakers are much better suited for that.

 

If you can spare some cash, these are more neutral sounding than the Missions:

http://www.richersounds.com/product/standmount-speakers/tannoy/mercury-v1/tann-mercury-v1-oak

[Gershy13]

The sub is indeed rated as a 4 ohm nominal load, but if you run it in parallel with a set of speakers, the effective load on the amp will be much lower than that.

 

 

 

These are forgiving speakers that can compensate for the typically aggressive sound of some PA gear (like your amp). They are more for music listening than monitoring. Though they can be used for monitoring in a squeeze, studio monitor speakers are much better suited for that.

 

If you can spare some cash, these are more neutral sounding than the Missions:

http://www.richersounds.com/product/standmount-speakers/tannoy/mercury-v1/tann-mercury-v1-oak

yh ill look into those, they are alright price wise, can maybe spare another £10 if there are any better ones, yes monitoring ones will be nice, can i make em sound better for music listening somehow?

 

thanks

[Stagea]

yh ill look into those, they are alright price wise, can maybe spare another £10 if there are any better ones, yes monitoring ones will be nice, can i make em sound better for music listening somehow?

 

thanks

Will you use a PC as a source? You can equalize either of these speakers to approximate monitoring sets (you have enough amp headroom anyway). An RTA would be needed to do this.

 

That being said, you can also equalize a monitoring set so that they are forgiving and enjoyable with multiple genres. Monitoring speakers will cost you more though, especially since they are normally sold per piece. 

[Gershy13]

Will you use a PC as a source? You can equalize either of these speakers to approximate monitoring sets (you have enough amp headroom anyway). An RTA would be needed to do this.

 

That being said, you can also equalize a monitoring set so that they are forgiving and enjoyable with multiple genres. Monitoring speakers will cost you more though, especially since they are normally sold per piece. 

they don't need to be legit monitoring speakers, just ones that are ok for that, yes I'm probe gonna use a mac or pc, maybe occasionally connecting a phone to play music through it, 

how can i get good bass with a phone? android probs

[Gershy13]

whats an RTA?

[Stagea]

they don't need to be legit monitoring speakers, just ones that are ok for that, yes I'm probe gonna use a mac or pc, maybe occasionally connecting a phone to play music through it, 

how can i get good bass with a phone? android probs

 

The speakers I mentioned should be okay if you don't need real monitoring speakers. They perform very well for the price. A software EQ on your Mac or PC should handle any major response issue. How's your room's acoustics by the way?

 

You can run a software EQ on your phone or buy a physical equalizer if you really want to boost the low end.

 

 

whats an RTA?

 

Real Time Analyzer. You can try to tune it without an RTA (normally quite roughly) if you have a good ear for it.

[Gershy13]

The speakers I mentioned should be okay if you don't need real monitoring speakers. They perform very well for the price. A software EQ on your Mac or PC should handle any major response issue. How's your room's acoustics by the way?

 

You can run a software EQ on your phone or buy a physical equalizer if you really want to boost the low end.

 

 

 

Real Time Analyzer. You can try to tune it without an RTA (normally quite roughly) if you have a good ear for it.

Thanks, which ones? The tannoy or the other ones? I'll have a look into a

legit eq, but it should be OK...

We are willing to spend up to £80ish

 

anything will do, decent monitoring speakers, and a good bit of headroom for an eq.

fairly loud, (the louder the better ) (since it is a nearly 1000w amp...)

 

 

Thanks

Gershy13

[Stagea]

Thanks, which ones? The tannoy or the other ones? I'll have a look into a

legit eq, but it should be OK...

We are willing to spend up to £80ish

 

anything will do, decent monitoring speakers, and a good bit of headroom for an eq.

fairly loud, (the louder the better ) (since it is a nearly 1000w amp...)

 

Bookshelf speakers generally don't get very loud (unless you have a small room). They get loud enough for enjoyable listening. Don't push them to dance club / rock concert volume levels, as they will distort and deteriorate much quicker.

 

If you want a really loud set, then look at PA speakers. Those in this price are pretty terrible in quality though, in my opinion.

[Gershy13]

Bookshelf speakers generally don't get very loud (unless you have a small room). They get loud enough for enjoyable listening. Don't push them to dance club / rock concert volume levels, as they will distort and deteriorate much quicker.

 

If you want a really loud set, then look at PA speakers. Those in this price are pretty terrible in quality though, in my opinion.

they don't need to be super loud! just enough to enjoy it in a medium room...

[Gershy13]

Im looking at the JBL Control 1,  the tannoy mercury v1, and the Roth Oli RA1

 

the ones look good, which one out of them would you recommend?

 

I'm mainly looking for music playing, but will also use them for a tiny bit of monitoring... i like my bass, so if i can atleast eq them to sound with some good bass that will be nice...

 

Thanks

Gershy13

[Gershy13]

Also, i found the Berhinger Monitor 1 Control from Thomann.de

 

how are they compared to the other ones above?

 

Thanks

Gershy13

 

EDIT: I think they are also called the Monitor 1c (more common)

 

EDIT again: I looked at some reviews, and people said the bass is not great, they dropoff at 500hz...

[Stagea]

Also, i found the Berhinger Monitor 1 Control from Thomann.de

 

how are they compared to the other ones above?

 

I am not a fan of Behringers, but you can EQ them to sound decent. They can deliver good value for pro equipment.

[Gershy13]

I am not a fan of Behringers, but you can EQ them to sound decent. They can deliver good value for pro equipment.

yeah, i think I'm gonna skip em,

 

which one out of the others should i get?