Need help with modifying my Build

[TechSavyJew]

I plan on using this build http://pcpartpicker.com/p/QJB6yc , I plan to modify if need be , but I would like to express one thing , I will not go lower than a Quad-core processor and I would rather like to stick with AMD processors because I see their company as pretty ambitious in the way that they do bussiness , to me the company represents Dreamers and I have a strong desire to support their cause so for the most part screw Intel
Also the processor in this build is supposed to at least have 1 upgrade coming to the socket.

Note - Im upgrading from a Phenom 9850 2.5Ghz Quad-core processor that has served me faithfully and has taken everything I have thrown at it in the past.
This will be a shift from a 60nm process to a 28nm process ..... I'm drooling just thinking about the power I shall feel *-*
But anyways I'm not to fond of intel and how they tend to do bussiness X_X

 

 

 

My overall budget is $1600

[79wjd]

Whats wrong with the way Intel doe business  

 

Lose the platinums.... 

Get a cheaper board, and get an EVGA G2 750 instead of the RM 750

 

And an Intel i5 will wreck a 760k  

 

A much better build, by refusing to go Intel you only hurt yourself. 

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($229.94 @ OutletPC) 

CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler  ($92.95 @ Mwave) 

Motherboard: MSI Z97 U3 Plus ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($69.99 @ Newegg) 

Memory: A-Data XPG V1.0 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($69.99 @ Newegg) 

Storage: Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($99.99 @ Newegg) 

Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($54.98 @ OutletPC) 

Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 290 4GB Tri-X Video Card  ($249.99 @ Newegg) 

Case: NZXT Phantom (Black/Green) ATX Full Tower Case  ($119.99 @ Amazon) 

Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($79.99 @ NCIX US) 

Keyboard: Cooler Master OCTANE Wired Gaming Keyboard w/Optical Mouse  ($59.00 @ Newegg) 

Mouse: Razer DeathAdder Chroma Wired Optical Mouse  ($68.99 @ Amazon) 

Headphones: Sony MDR-XB920/B Headphones  ($119.99 @ Newegg) 

Total: $1315.79

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-11-17 11:36 EST-0500

[TheSLSAMG]

 

It's daft to choose an inferior option if you have the budget to shoot higher. Intel are ambitious as well, but they are also successful. AMD are to their own right, but they make what is an inferior product. AMD is meant for budgets currently, Intel is meant for enthusiasts.

 

Lose the Dominator Platinums for HyperX Fury, lose the 860K for an i5 4690K and lose the A88X Ranger for a Z97 Ranger.

[TheSLSAMG]

Whats wrong with the way Intel doe business  

 

Lose the platinums.... 

Get a cheaper board, and get an EVGA G2 750 instead of the RM 750

 

And an Intel i5 will wreck a 760k  

Intel are more cutthroat. They came to a knives-only fight with a gun and killed everyone.

[MasterRaceFanBoy]

 

I plan on using this build http://pcpartpicker.com/p/QJB6yc , I plan to modify if need be , but I would like to express one thing , I will not go lower than a Quad-core processor and I would rather like to stick with AMD processors because I see their company as pretty ambitious in the way that they do bussiness , to me the company represents Dreamers and I have a strong desire to support their cause so for the most part screw Intel

Also the processor in this build is supposed to at least have 1 upgrade coming to the socket.

Note - Im upgrading from a Phenom 9850 2.5Ghz Quad-core processor that has served me faithfully and has taken everything I have thrown at it in the past.

This will be a shift from a 60nm process to a 28nm process ..... I'm drooling just thinking about the power I shall feel *-*

But anyways I'm not to fond of intel and how they tend to do bussiness X_X

 

 

 

My overall budget is $1600

 

perfect! BUt get an EVGA g2 gold 80+ full mod, is cheaper and get a crucial mx100 256gb ssd, at the same price. pls don't look for the world overkill, whoever is telling you, the rig is perfect! I rly like that cooler hahaha tho the CRYORIG R1 Ultimate perform better and looks WAY better than nh-d15.. also cheaper or same price I hope you will get that and do some pics

[TechSavyJew]

 

It's daft to choose an inferior option if you have the budget to shoot higher. Intel are ambitious as well, but they are also successful. AMD are to their own right, but they make what is an inferior product. AMD is meant for budgets currently, Intel is meant for enthusiasts.

 

Lose the Dominator Platinums for HyperX Fury, lose the 860K for an i5 4690K and lose the A88X Ranger for a Z97 Ranger.

uhm I do believe the i5 has heating issues , overall less heat , but in terms of overclocking you can't go as high because their was an issue with the i5's ... unsure if they resolved it , but still

Also I have read multiple things about ram , seems that Kingston isn't the best quality Nor does it have good customer service

[Fate]

uhm I do believe the i5 has heating issues , overall less heat , but in terms of overclocking you can't go as high because their was an issue with the i5's ... unsure if they resolved it , but still

What are you talking about? None of those things are true.

Also, Kingston is good quality as long as it's not the V300 SSD line. 

[79wjd]

uhm I do believe the i5 has heating issues , overall less heat , but in terms of overclocking you can't go as high because their was an issue with the i5's ... unsure if they resolved it , but still

Also I have read multiple things about ram , seems that Kingston isn't the best quality Nor does it have good customer service

Its not an issue, and the 4690k (devils canyon) has a better TIM, so its no longer an issue; but even without an overclock, a 4690k will still decimate a 760k. 

 

Kingston, Adata, G. Skill, Corsair, Crucial all make EXCELLENT RAM. Ram really isn't one of those things you'll have an issue with. 

[TechSavyJew]

 

Whats wrong with the way Intel doe business  

 

Lose the platinums.... 

Get a cheaper board, and get an EVGA G2 750 instead of the RM 750

 

And an Intel i5 will wreck a 760k  

 

A much better build, by refusing to go Intel you only hurt yourself. 

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($229.94 @ OutletPC) 

CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler  ($92.95 @ Mwave) 

Motherboard: MSI Z97 U3 Plus ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($69.99 @ Newegg) 

Memory: A-Data XPG V1.0 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($69.99 @ Newegg) 

Storage: Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($99.99 @ Newegg) 

Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($54.98 @ OutletPC) 

Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 290 4GB Tri-X Video Card  ($249.99 @ Newegg) 

Case: NZXT Phantom (Black/Green) ATX Full Tower Case  ($119.99 @ Amazon) 

Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($79.99 @ NCIX US) 

Keyboard: Cooler Master OCTANE Wired Gaming Keyboard w/Optical Mouse  ($59.00 @ Newegg) 

Mouse: Razer DeathAdder Chroma Wired Optical Mouse  ($68.99 @ Amazon) 

Headphones: Sony MDR-XB920/B Headphones  ($119.99 @ Newegg) 

Total: $1315.79

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-11-17 11:36 EST-0500

 

i5 is a no no , either AMD's best or an i7 , Unsure of how good EVGA is at making PSU's    and A-Data isn't really a top / trusted brand in terms of Quality , this is a One shot type of deal , I won't be able to really upgrade for awhile 

[TheSLSAMG]

uhm I do believe the i5 has heating issues , overall less heat , but in terms of overclocking you can't go as high because their was an issue with the i5's ... unsure if they resolved it , but still

Also I have read multiple things about ram , seems that Kingston isn't the best quality Nor does it have good customer service

The 4690K has no heating issues. Overclocking is limited by the silicon, whether it's an Intel CPU, AMD CPU or any CPU. But that's a whole different lesson.

 

Kingston are a company well known for their NAND flash. They produce almost every component on one of their RAM sticks, while Corsair produce only the heatsink.

[TheSLSAMG]

i5 is a no no , either AMD's best or an i7 , Unsure of how good EVGA is at making PSU's    and A-Data isn't really a top / trusted brand in terms of Quality , this is a One shot type of deal , I won't be able to really upgrade for awhile 

i5 is better than AMD's best at almost everything...

 

EVGA are one of the best PSU rebranders, the unit uses a SuperFlower platform, which is consistently scored 10/10 by reviewers like JonnyGURU. I have heard both good and bad about A-DATA though, but I would trust them personally.

[TechSavyJew]

What are you talking about? None of those things are true.

Also, Kingston is good quality as long as it's not the V300 SSD line. 

I know that at least earlier i5 Processors had an issue with how they dispersed heat

[Fate]

i5 is a no no , either AMD's best or an i7 , Unsure of how good EVGA is at making PSU's    and A-Data isn't really a top / trusted brand in terms of Quality , this is a One shot type of deal , I won't be able to really upgrade for awhile 

i5 is a nono? Who has brain washed you? Evga makes greats PSUs. Adata is a great brand and is highly trusted. 

[TechSavyJew]

i5 is a nono? Who has brain washed you? Evga makes greats PSUs. Adata is a great brand and is highly trusted. 

i5 yes are damn amazing , but honestly It has had some issues in the past that just worries me , also i7's are said to be much better than i5's , also the 860k ( Kaveri stripped of GPU ) has had good reviews and so has the Kaveri Processor , My main goal is to shoot for the ability to use the Unreal Editor , either 3 or 4

[TechSavyJew]

i5 is better than AMD's best at almost everything...

 

EVGA are one of the best PSU rebranders, the unit uses a SuperFlower platform, which is consistently scored 10/10 by reviewers like JonnyGURU. I have heard both good and bad about A-DATA though, but I would trust them personally.

hmm , alright , I will definitely reconsider my choice of PSU , thank you very much

[TechSavyJew]

The 4690K has no heating issues. Overclocking is limited by the silicon, whether it's an Intel CPU, AMD CPU or any CPU. But that's a whole different lesson.

 

Kingston are a company well known for their NAND flash. They produce almost every component on one of their RAM sticks, while Corsair produce only the heatsink.

I have heard rave reviews on other tech sites about Corsair and the quality / Customer service , im mostly wishing to get some DDR3-2400 ram so that I can overclock to open it up farther if I would later need the performance push.

[TechSavyJew]

 

Whats wrong with the way Intel doe business  

 

Lose the platinums.... 

Get a cheaper board, and get an EVGA G2 750 instead of the RM 750

 

And an Intel i5 will wreck a 760k  

 

A much better build, by refusing to go Intel you only hurt yourself. 

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($229.94 @ OutletPC) 

CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler  ($92.95 @ Mwave) 

Motherboard: MSI Z97 U3 Plus ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($69.99 @ Newegg) 

Memory: A-Data XPG V1.0 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($69.99 @ Newegg) 

Storage: Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($99.99 @ Newegg) 

Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($54.98 @ OutletPC) 

Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 290 4GB Tri-X Video Card  ($249.99 @ Newegg) 

Case: NZXT Phantom (Black/Green) ATX Full Tower Case  ($119.99 @ Amazon) 

Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($79.99 @ NCIX US) 

Keyboard: Cooler Master OCTANE Wired Gaming Keyboard w/Optical Mouse  ($59.00 @ Newegg) 

Mouse: Razer DeathAdder Chroma Wired Optical Mouse  ($68.99 @ Amazon) 

Headphones: Sony MDR-XB920/B Headphones  ($119.99 @ Newegg) 

Total: $1315.79

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-11-17 11:36 EST-0500

 

they get kinda trigger happy with lawsuits , the moment they find even a minor infraction on a patent they sue like hell , also their processors seem a little overpriced for half of the top end processors

[79wjd]

they get kinda trigger happy with lawsuits , the moment they find even a minor infraction on a patent they sue like hell , also their processors seem a little overpriced for half of the top end processors

Considering that a locked i5 on an h81 board will outperform and 8350 (overclocked--which requires an aftermarket cooler and expensive mobo) in gaming. So an i5 4460 will be cheaper than an fx8350 and outperform it in everything except rendering. In which case a Xeon 1231v3 +h81 board will outperform an 8360 in rendering and still be cheaper.

[TechSavyJew]

Considering that a locked i5 on an h81 board will outperform and 8350 (overclocked--which requires an aftermarket cooler and expensive mobo) in gaming. So an i5 4460 will be cheaper than an fx8350 and outperform it in everything except rendering. In which case a Xeon 1231v3 +h81 board will outperform an 8360 in rendering and still be cheaper.

I know that i5's smoke the FX series and then go on to sip some tea before they Blow up even more benchmarks , this was mostly due to an inferior architecture and a bigger nm process , I have heard rumors and confirmed plans for new processors with whole new Architectures , I plan on upgrading the processor down the road to a even more capable processor.

The whole reason I was going with the 860k was because of that one upgrade as well as HSA being used in the design of the Kaveri Processor.

This is going to be a huge upgrade for me anyways , I don't plan on gaming over Ultra 1080p on any game , not that into graphics , but If it can run the Unreal Editor fairly well then imma go with the 860k

[79wjd]

I know that i5's smoke the FX series and then go on to sip some tea before they Blow up even more benchmarks , this was mostly due to an inferior architecture and a bigger nm process , I have heard rumors and confirmed plans for new processors with whole new Architectures , I plan on upgrading the processor down the road to a even more capable processor.

The whole reason I was going with the 860k was because of that one upgrade as well as HSA being used in the design of the Kaveri Processor.

This is going to be a huge upgrade for me anyways , I don't plan on gaming over Ultra 1080p on any game , not that into graphics , but If it can run the Unreal Editor fairly well then imma go with the 860k

youre literally shooting yourself in the foot here....

[TechSavyJew]

Honestly I will try to fit an i7 or even a top model i5 into the build , it might just be safer to get an i7 or i5 build and save up to buy a FM2+ build , I really was hoping to get a crack at AMD's newest Architecture , but fine ..... no 860k  * cries a little *

[79wjd]

I have heard rave reviews on other tech sites about Corsair and the quality / Customer service , im mostly wishing to get some DDR3-2400 ram so that I can overclock to open it up farther if I would later need the performance push.

Don't even bother spending money on higher clocked Ram. 

 

firstly, you probably wouldn't notice a difference anyway (certainly not in gaming). And secondly, overclocked RAM affects CPU overclock stability to the point where it's very common for anything above 1600mhz to prevent you from achieving a stable overclock on the cpu; and a cpu overclock is worth a LOT more than a memory overclock. 

 

Honestly I will try to fit an i7 or even a top model i5 into the build , it might just be safer to get an i7 or i5 build and save up to buy a FM2+ build , I really was hoping to get a crack at AMD's newest Architecture , but fine ..... no 860k  * cries a little *

Theres no reason to "save up" for an FM2+ board. AMD just isn't there at the high end; and its highly unlikely the FM2+ platform will EVER be a high end platform. 

[TechSavyJew]

Don't even bother spending money on higher clocked Ram. 

 

firstly, you probably wouldn't notice a difference anyway (certainly not in gaming). And secondly, overclocked RAM affects CPU overclock stability to the point where it's very common for anything above 1600mhz to prevent you from achieving a stable overclock on the cpu; and a cpu overclock is worth a LOT more than a memory overclock. 

 

Theres no reason to "save up" for an FM2+ board. AMD just isn't there at the high end; and its highly unlikely the FM2+ platform will EVER be a high end platform. 

with VISC and MRAM under AMD's belt as major clusterF***ing bombs I suspect things could really change dramatically in the future for AMD , the test VISC processor already beat the shit out of Haswell , it crushed haswell by an incredible 51%  include MRAM as a replacement to DRAM ( fairly certain it's DRAM in all modern Processors )  and you have a massive Rapage bomb set to detonate some time in the future , the FM2+ board doesn't seem like it's honestly going to be a massive platform for any big changes that AMD will have , but I see a bright future for AMD *-*

[79wjd]

with VISC and MRAM under AMD's belt as major clusterF***ing bombs I suspect things could really change dramatically in the future for AMD , the test VISC processor already beat the shit out of Haswell , it crushed haswell by an incredible 51%  include MRAM as a replacement to DRAM ( fairly certain it's DRAM in all modern Processors )  and you have a massive Rapage bomb set to detonate some time in the future , the FM2+ board doesn't seem like it's honestly going to be a massive platform for any big changes that AMD will have , but I see a bright future for AMD *-*

Will AMD make a comeback into the high end market? Possibly, they've been there before and they certainly have the potential to do so again; however not for a few years and that high end product won't be on the FM2+ platform anyway. 

 

What you're talking about with VISC is more of a theoretical idea that AMD has been funding that won't become a consumer product for YEARS, by which point Intel will have something comparable. And MRAM isn't really getting anywhere atm, but DRAM will certainly be replaced by something better, but again, not for a YEARS, and Intel will be replacing it as well, not just AMD. 

[TechSavyJew]

I honestly just hope that one day AMD and Intel will fuse together to make a super beast of a Company , but right now Intel is in the lead by a huge margin , AMD seems to be strapping on rockets at the moment while Intel gloats , and even if it's 3 years from now .... How much will Intel have changed it's architecture ? a boosted 20% ?  Broadwell was only a measely 3-4% performance upgrade from haswell , things seem a little bleak for Intel , they seem to not notice that they will soon be beating a dead horse Architecture , I don't really like Intel because they tend to play it safe and not really try new architectural ideas , AMD was told that it's Modular cores were damn near impossible , but they achieved it , regardless of the poor performance they did it , AMD take's risk , Evolution is all about risk , sometimes it's a severe miss and sometimes it's a industry shaking Hit. AMD seems to really get this concept while Intel just seems to be solely focused on Single threaded performance , you can only go so far with that