CPU stable during overclock, bsod while adaptive

[Wano97]

My CPU is stable at 4.4GHz with 1.39v but as soon as I switch back to adaptive mode instead of static, I get an instant BSOD

[scaryjam823]

My CPU is stable at 4.4GHz with 1.39v but as soon as I switch back to adaptive mode instead of static, I get an instant BSOD

Lower your voltage now! That is way too high even on an aio. You don't want adaptive enabled if you're overclocking.

[Wano97]

Lower your voltage now! That is way too high even on an aio

It's still safe though, why lower it?

I know I don't want adaptive enabled during the overclock itself, but I meant when I finished, I switched to adaptive

[scaryjam823]

It's still safe though, why lower it?

1.3v is about the highest you want to go, anything higher than that is risking damaging your cpu. That's safe? I'm at 4.7ghz with 1.27v.

[Wano97]

1.3v is about the highest you want to go, anything higher than that is risking damaging your cpu. That's safe?

1.3v is probably impossible for me, or I might be doing something wrong. I've seen quite a few people keeping their core voltage at 1.4v

[scaryjam823]

1.3v is probably impossible for me, or I might be doing something wrong. I've seen quite a few people keeping their core voltage at 1.4v

You can but you drastically reduce your cpu's life span. Those who are running that high may also be on custom loops, which if you are you're safer at higher voltages. You probably just got a bad overclocker, as I said I'm at 1.27v and 4.7ghz with my overclock. You really need to lower your voltage or you will most likely see damage.

[Wano97]

You can but you drastically reduce your cpu's life span. Those who are running that high may also be on custom loops, which if you are you're safer at higher voltages. You probably just got a bad overclocker, as I said I'm at 1.27v and 4.7ghz with my overclock. You really need to lower your voltage or you will most likely see damage.

 I'm not even running it at 1.39v atm I wish someone could help me through teamviewer or something though.

[runit3]

Is the core voltage the only voltage setting you have modified? You can't just set core voltage and expect a stable OC. Cache voltage and VCCIN have to be modified and RAM voltage as well depending on your kit.

[scaryjam823]

 I'm not even running it at 1.39v atm I wish someone could help me through teamviewer or something though.

There's not much to help with? Just reset everything back to stock. Start by turning adaptive off, leaving the voltage around 1.25v or whatever the default is. Start increasing your overclock multiplier by a few 100mhz at a time, until it either doesn't boot or becomes unstable. Then try raising your voltage up to no higher than 1.3v or until it is stable again. Try raising your multiplier again until it crashes, then lower it back to where it was stable. Then repeat if you have room to increase the voltage, if you don't then stress test and watch the temps. If it gets too hot you need to lower the voltage and the multiplier.

 

It's really just time consuming and trial and error. Increasing each thing little by little. 

 

@runit3

 No they don't. I reached 4.9ghz by only touching my core voltage and my multiplier. Never messed with ram voltage, cache or VCCIN voltages. I even managed my ram overclock without touching the voltage. I'm not saying they wont help, just that you can be stable without touching them.

[Wano97]

Is the core voltage the only voltage setting you have modified? You can't just set core voltage and expect a stable OC. Cache voltage and VCCIN have to be modified and RAM voltage as well depending on your kit.

 

I did indeed only change the core voltage

 

There's not much to help with? Just reset everything back to stock. Start by turning adaptive off, leaving the voltage around 1.25v or whatever the default is. Start increasing your overclock multiplier by a few 100mhz at a time, until it either doesn't boot or becomes unstable. Then try raising your voltage up to no higher than 1.3v or until it is stable again. Try raising your multiplier again until it crashes, then lower it back to where it was stable. Then repeat if you have room to increase the voltage, if you don't then stress test and watch the temps. If it gets too hot you need to lower the voltage and the multiplier.

 

It's really just time consuming and trial and error. Increasing each thing little by little. 

 

@runit3

 No they don't. I reached 4.9ghz by only touching my core voltage and my multiplier. Never messed with ram voltage, cache or VCCIN voltages. I even managed my ram overclock without touching the voltage. I'm not saying they wont help, just that you can be stable without touching them.

 

I've reached around 80 degrees with 1.39v, but I'll try keeping it at 1.3v. The only problem was that I just got a bsod after switching to adaptive, You stress test in static and after it is stable, you just change it to adaptive, right? While keeping the overclock settings of course

[scaryjam823]

I did indeed only change the core voltage

I've reached around 80 degrees with 1.39v, but I'll try keeping it at 1.3v. The only problem was that I just got a bsod after switching to adaptive, You stress test in static and after it is stable, you just change it to adaptive, right? While keeping the overclock settings of course

No do not change it back to adaptive, When overclocking you do not want to enable adaptive at all. Sorry wasn't clear on that.  Adaptive just doesn't know how to handle overclocks and gives too low voltages, which causes the bsod. Adaptive basically lowers your voltage when not under load to save power, the problem is adaptive may be lowering it below what the processor needs to be stable at the overclock you have. It just causes headaches and is recommended to be disabled.

[Altecice]

is 80c not to high for that CPU? I thought the TJMAX was in the pre70's?

 

As said above you never want to run adaptive/speedstep/turbo etc with such a heavy overclock. Turn it all off/set to manual

[Wano97]

No do not change it back to adaptive, When overclocking you do not want to enable adaptive at all. Sorry wasn't clear on that.

Oh so I think I've misunderstood a lot of people, even with the overclock applied during normal usage such as gaming, I still keep it at static?

 

is 80c not to high for that CPU? I thought the TJMAX was in the pre70's?

 

As said above you never want to run adaptive/speedstep/turbo etc with such a heavy overclock. Turn it all off/set to manual

I've googled around and saw people saying that reaching 85 is just fine.

[runit3]

There's not much to help with? Just reset everything back to stock. Start by turning adaptive off, leaving the voltage around 1.25v or whatever the default is. Start increasing your overclock multiplier by a few 100mhz at a time, until it either doesn't boot or becomes unstable. Then try raising your voltage up to no higher than 1.3v or until it is stable again. Try raising your multiplier again until it crashes, then lower it back to where it was stable. Then repeat if you have room to increase the voltage, if you don't then stress test and watch the temps. If it gets too hot you need to lower the voltage and the multiplier.

 

It's really just time consuming and trial and error. Increasing each thing little by little. 

 

@runit3

 No they don't. I reached 4.9ghz by only touching my core voltage and my multiplier. Never messed with ram voltage, cache or VCCIN voltages. I even managed my ram overclock without touching the voltage. I'm not saying they wont help, just that you can be stable without touching them.

What bench, how long, and what RAM? I've never had a chip 6-12hr AIDA, XTU, or Prime stable in those time frames with ONLY modifying core voltage and core mult. I also only have ran 2133mhz or higher RAM, but regardless taking other voltage settings OFF auto is always recommended whenever anyone is doing a high OC/synthetic benchmarks.

[scaryjam823]

Oh so I think I've misunderstood a lot of people, even with the overclock applied during normal usage such as gaming, I still keep it at static?

 

I've googled around and saw people saying that reaching 85 is just fine.

Yes that is correct you always have static enabled. Temp is one thing, but voltage is another to keep in mind. I fried my graphics card from too much voltage, even though temps were in the 65c range.

 

@runit3

Intel burn test for 24 hours, AIDA 64 extreme for 12 hours. Ram is below in my sig (G.Skill Ripjaws), it was 1600mhz at the time. I later lowered the cpu clock speed to 4.7ghz and overclocked the ram to 2000mhz, lowered the cpu overclock because of temps.

[Wano97]

Yes that is correct you always have static enabled. Temp is one thing, but voltage is another to keep in mind. I fried my graphics card from too much voltage, even though temps were in the 65c range.

@runit3

Intel burn test for 24 hours, AIDA 64 extreme for 12 hours. Ram is below in my sig (G.Skill Ripjaws), it was 1600mhz at the time. I later lowered the cpu clock speed to 4.7ghz and overclocked the ram to 2000mhz, lowered the cpu overclock because of temps.

That clears up a lot, thanks

[scaryjam823]

That clears up a lot, thanks

If you need any further help send a message my way and I'll be glad to assist you the best I can.