vT X99 Build

[virtualTune]

Hey guys, 

so my current build is alright, but I just don't feel like it's the best I can do. I want a build that I can still feel comfortable with a year from now. School starts again next month, so I am putting this off until December/January, but the more/better planning the higher the chances of a happy build

 

Right now my build is mostly black with really only the white corsair logo. Honestly, it looks like an advertisement with terrible cable management ^^. It's just dull. 

Thus for the next build I certainly want something more defined. Now I was thinking of a black and yellow (No Wiz Khalifa fan) theme. 

 

Now to the hardware. I absolutely love the black X99S SLi Plus from MSI. I was gonna put a 5930K in it. As far as RAM goes I was hoping to find some LED modules, 32GB, maybe the Avexir Blitz Series. Since the rumor of the day is that the 980 will be only marginally better if at all than the 780Ti, I am thinking a 980Ti will have to do. 

As far as Storage goes I was thinking 3x 3TB Seagate Barracuda for Data and general Media, 1x 120GB SSD for the OS, 1x 120GB for rendering, 1x 120GB SSD for Programs, 1x 500GB SSD for Games. 

 

Now to the fun part ^^

I want to watercool the CPU and GPU. Now I would do a custom loop, but I have never done one before. Mainly because I am scared to make a mistake and flush a whole lot of money down the drain. So I guess I am looking at AiO solutions. The H105 is okay, but I am sure there are better options. I am also trying to stay away from Corsair after my last experience.

 

Now on to the Case. I am not particularly happy with my 750D. The build quality is sub-optimal, the space for cables is limited and it is a little short. I know the trend is small cases, but I always loved Full Towers. I am currently looking at the HAF Stacker, but I must say the exterior is a bit aggressive for my taste. Now of course one could modify that, but "working with my hands" is not my strength

 

For Cables I have already contacted @Icemodz to get some Yellow MDPC cables. 

 

What's left? 

PSU

Soundcard (optional)

Fans

LED (not sure about this ^^) 

 

If you have any more input or disagree with me on any of the choices I made so far, please tell me. After all that is the point of this post

 

-vT

 

 

[Splat101]

Processor

i7 5960x/5930k-8 core

Cpu Cooler

NZXT Kraken x61 - 280mm cooler

Storage

Sandisk extreme pro 960wouldve recomendedkingston v310 but it cost more on amazon

2 Wd green 6tb( ify)

or 1 Seagate enterprise 6tb (reliable)

or (Wd red 6tb+ wd red 4tb red in raid 0/1/5/10)(reliable)

Ram

Gskill 32gb ripjaws 4

12gb ramdisk leaving you with 24gb for opening tabs on google chrome.....lol

Psu

Corsair hx760i/850i/1000i

Evga p2 1000/1200

Evga g1 760/850/1000

Antec hcp 1000/1200

Case- why you no go matx if youre only doing 2 way sli??

Phanteks enthoo primo luxe -build quality is great. I could lift it with a full system and no creaks or noises.

You could get a case from caselabs but you need case labs money.

Lian li have nice options.

Fans

lookers/colored/led

aerocool ds 140/120

corsair af/sp 140/120

Functional

noctua Ppc 140/120

[virtualTune]

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Cooler

Needs to be expandable to cool GPU as well

 

Storage

no way am I gonna spend 1k on storage. Nope. 

 

Ram

Ripjaws are ugly

a ramdisk under 25GB is useless which would require 64GB total, so no ramdisk ^^

 

PSU 

anything above 800W seems overkill

Wattage of Maxwell GPUs is sub 200W(2) 

400W leaves ample for the rest

 

Case

thinking about mATX but big fan of big cases (though case labs isn't worth it for this build)

Might want to install a custom loop, so mATX will make that much more difficult.

 

Fans

pretty sure I will use Noctua fans (might paint them). 

In terms of lighting I have no idea what I want to do. On one hand I like the general low of a case in one colour, on thee other hand I want to keep the contrast betewwn black and yellow. Alternatively I was thinking of using UV lights and combine them with a custom loop. 

[Splat101]

Then get a ek/ alphacool 240/360 /480/ kit. they cost a few extra dollars than a CLC. You can get them from frozen cpu. They include pumps, reservoirs, radiator, tubing fittings. all you have to do later is install the gpu block, and other radiators if you want.

for storage i was only suggesting, you could get one 6tb green, what could you do with 12tb of storage? unless you're a program hog that has everything on his computer from since 4th grade, no offense.

You could get the 500gb or 250 variants of the ssd, The samsung evo would do good as well, and it is cheaper. Sandisk ultra ii as well.

i recommended 800 because you might want to do sli later, maybe, idk people change their minds way to much for my liking. And because the fan wont start up until 375w. utter silence with your gpu and cpu at full load. i dont think you care about that though.

i was looking at functionality for the ram

adata-not a fan, corsair, geil, kingston, Avexir- i totally recommend they have the color scheme for your motherboard.

ram disk is could be used as a caching drive. if you have 12gb of ram as cache, 12gb of program cache would be stored. thats equivalent to around 15-25 program 's cache being stored there. so 25 of your most frequently used programs will be running at the speed of your rams read and writes. ddr4 2133 on aida64 =51000mb/s read and 50000mb/s writes avg.

i chose those psu's only because they were high end brand names, my bad

other suggestions-

cooler master v series

rosewill has reliable psu's

antec earth-watts

evga g1 series are good as well

[virtualTune]

Then get a ek/ alphacool 240/360 /480/ kit. they cost a few extra dollars than a CLC. You can get them from frozen cpu. They include pumps, reservoirs, radiator, tubing fittings. all you have to do later is install the gpu block, and other radiators if you want.

for storage i was only suggesting, you could get one 6tb green, what could you do with 12tb of storage? unless you're a program hog that has everything on his computer from since 4th grade, no offense.

You could get the 500gb or 250 variants of the ssd, The samsung evo would do good as well, and it is cheaper. Sandisk ultra ii as well.

i recommended 800 because you might want to do sli later, maybe, idk people change their minds way to much for my liking. And because the fan wont start up until 375w. utter silence with your gpu and cpu at full load. i dont think you care about that though.

i was looking at functionality for the ram

adata-not a fan, corsair, geil, kingston, Avexir- i totally recommend they have the color scheme for your motherboard.

ram disk is could be used as a caching drive. if you have 12gb of ram as cache, 12gb of program cache would be stored. thats equivalent to around 15-25 program 's cache being stored there. so 25 of your most frequently used programs will be running at the speed of your rams read and writes. ddr4 2133 on aida64 =51000mb/s read and 50000mb/s writes avg.

i chose those psu's only because they were high end brand names, my bad

other suggestions-

cooler master v series

rosewill has reliable psu's

antec earth-watts

evga g1 series are good as well

500GB SSD is a good idea. I also like to have at least 1 backup HDD. You also got me stuck on mATX now

 

As far as ram goes, like I said, the Avexir Blitz seem to go nicely with the yellow LEDs, however they are yet to be released. 

Ram disks I have actually only used once before and that was for a benchmark so I don't actually know a whole lot about it. For my rendering I need min. 16GB of ram. More is better depending on the project, but as you describe the much greater cache speed, that might actually be a greater performance gain. 

 

in terms of PSU I didn't mean to say i don't like the PSUs, I was more or less asking if 800+ isn't a bit too much for one or two GPUs and a 5630K. 

 

So let's pretend I want to put the same hardware into a mATX case.

 

A custom loop sure would be a lot more challenging. How much more overclocking can you do with a watercooled gpu vs air cooled? Cause at the end of the day I have to think more long-term. With that in mind mATX seems to be the way to go. However then, the aesthetics and the little bit of extra cooling and thus overclocking ability. Thus maybe a simple "high-end" AIO is the better option. It would allow me to invest more into storage. 

 

Any cases that you would recommend? 

 

Btw. thanks for your comments so far

[Splat101]

The 850w psu is round 290w more than you will be consuming in an sli setup. As i said the fans wont turn very fast with your system guaranteeing silence. you can choose variants of those psu even down to 600 or 650w psu for sli. yes...f***ing...... sli. dunno yet though we will have to wait and seeee....

The gtx 980 has a rumored(take with a grain of salt) tdp 170w, your 5930k is gonna be over-clocked (4.6ghz at 1.25v-1.3v probably) that should be in the 190-220w range. You should be pulling from the wall 220+340(sli)= 560w total. Less actually because you would have adaptive mode on. And You wont be taxing 100% of your system with any app at one time for you to be consuming 560w, except during stress testing your entire system (gpu and cpu and ram and hdd and motherboard ).

For cooling you would actually be fine with a 480mm radiator or 2*240. More is better but performance gains should be marginal 1-5 degrees probably. the difference in overclocking between air and water for gpus isnt much. your talking a 50-200mhz gain from max air overclock to max water overclock. it all depnds on the temperture yyou are comfortable with on on your gpu. water cooling a cpu on the other hand, the gains are better for sure im talking 100-1300mhz gains from air max to watercooled max. it depend on your silicon either way, but the the possibilitty is there. And the normal benefits of water-cooling like longer lifespan of capaacitors, mosfets, memory and other components. By the way over clocking your gpu doesn't benefit rendering in any way, more vram is better.

Cases ()- anything inside is radiator opstions

Cubes

1. Lian li pc v359 (240x2) (its retro looking)

2. Caselabs mercury s5(360+240)/(240+240)

3. Fractal node 804 (240+280+120+120) yes.. f***ing impressive, also has 5 expansion slots

4. corsair air 240- this is a case where you air cool the gpus and get a 360mm (240+120) rad for the cpu only.

Mini Towers

5. Fractal arc mini r2(360+240)

6. Nanoxia ds 4 (3*120) has sound dampeners

7. Lian li pc v360 (240+120) you could get 45mm 240 and 80mm 120 rad

These below aren't out yet..... but the best options ever

7. PHANTEKS MINI XL (an atx case for matx) you would f***ing Love this.........

8. PHANTEKS EVOLVE (i think its a beautiful matx case) (240*2+120)

These would be my personal choices in cases.

With the new series gpu's I don't know if water-cooling them would be justified. I mean look at the 750 ti for example, on air you could get 1360mhz frequncy and +600 on the memory and be at 70 degrees with 2 fans. If the 900 series are to attest to that , then water-cooling the cards would be for bragging rights or ultimate over-clocks. or nvidia would have to make better memory modules to overclock.

Asus, evga, pny, msi coolers are only getting better, add a lower tdp, in 6 years watercooling would be obsolete or rare or a luxury item like how case modding is now. Some Cases now are just too beautiful.

[Splat101]

500GB SSD is a good idea. I also like to have at least 1 backup HDD. You also got me stuck on mATX now

 

As far as ram goes, like I said, the Avexir Blitz seem to go nicely with the yellow LEDs, however they are yet to be released. 

Ram disks I have actually only used once before and that was for a benchmark so I don't actually know a whole lot about it. For my rendering I need min. 16GB of ram. More is better depending on the project, but as you describe the much greater cache speed, that might actually be a greater performance gain. 

 

in terms of PSU I didn't mean to say i don't like the PSUs, I was more or less asking if 800+ isn't a bit too much for one or two GPUs and a 5630K. 

 

So let's pretend I want to put the same hardware into a mATX case.

 

A custom loop sure would be a lot more challenging. How much more overclocking can you do with a watercooled gpu vs air cooled? Cause at the end of the day I have to think more long-term. With that in mind mATX seems to be the way to go. However then, the aesthetics and the little bit of extra cooling and thus overclocking ability. Thus maybe a simple "high-end" AIO is the better option. It would allow me to invest more into storage. 

 

Any cases that you would recommend? 

 

Btw. thanks for your comments so far

[virtualTune]

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what?

[Splat101]

what?

The 850w psu is round 290w more than you will be consuming in an sli setup. As i said the fans wont turn very fast with your system guaranteeing silence. you can choose variants of those psu even down to 600 or 650w psu for sli. yes...f***ing...... sli. dunno yet though we will have to wait and seeee....

The gtx 980 has a rumored(take with a grain of salt) tdp 170w, your 5930k is gonna be over-clocked (4.6ghz at 1.25v-1.3v probably) that should be in the 190-220w range. You should be pulling from the wall 220+340(sli)= 560w total. Less actually because you would have adaptive mode on. And You wont be taxing 100% of your system with any app at one time for you to be consuming 560w, except during stress testing your entire system (gpu and cpu and ram and hdd and motherboard ).

For cooling you would actually be fine with a 480mm radiator or 2*240. More is better but performance gains should be marginal 1-5 degrees probably. the difference in overclocking between air and water for gpus isnt much. your talking a 50-200mhz gain from max air overclock to max water overclock. it all depnds on the temperture yyou are comfortable with on on your gpu. water cooling a cpu on the other hand, the gains are better for sure im talking 100-1300mhz gains from air max to watercooled max. it depend on your silicon either way, but the the possibilitty is there. And the normal benefits of water-cooling like longer lifespan of capaacitors, mosfets, memory and other components. By the way over clocking your gpu doesn't benefit rendering in any way, more vram is better.

Cases ()- anything inside is radiator opstions

Cubes

1. Lian li pc v359 (240x2) (its retro looking)

2. Caselabs mercury s5(360+240)/(240+240)

3. Fractal node 804 (240+280+120+120) yes.. f***ing impressive, also has 5 expansion slots

4. corsair air 240- this is a case where you air cool the gpus and get a 360mm (240+120) rad for the cpu only.

Mini Towers

5. Fractal arc mini r2(360+240)

6. Nanoxia ds 4 (3*120) has sound dampeners

7. Lian li pc v360 (240+120) you could get 45mm 240 and 80mm 120 rad

These below aren't out yet..... but the best options ever   

7. PHANTEKS MINI XL (an atx case for matx) you would f***ing Love this.........

8. PHANTEKS EVOLVE (i think its a beautiful matx case) (240*2+120)

These would be my personal choices in cases.

With the new series gpu's I don't know if water-cooling them would be justified. I mean look at the 750 ti for example, on air you could get 1360mhz frequncy and +600 on the memory and be at 70 degrees with 2 fans. If the 900 series are to attest to that , then water-cooling the cards would be for bragging rights or ultimate over-clocks. or nvidia would have to make better memory modules to overclock.

Asus, evga, pny, msi coolers are only getting better, add a lower tdp, in 6 years watercooling would be obsolete or rare or a luxury item like how case modding is now. Some Cases now are just too beautiful.